Been having trouble with the roller guides on my band saw from the git
go. First time I ran it one of the shields popped off. Put it back on
and it was OK for a while, then another popped off. Put it back and it
was OK for a while. This went on for several years. Yesterday one of
the shields popped off and the cage came out. Time for a new guide.
Pulled the bearing off and looked at it and it was marked "608ZZ".
Figured I'd have to call around to the bearing places today, but just
for hohos I googled the thing and found a remarkable lot of hits on
skateboard sites. So I went down to the local skateboard shop (Skate
Lair in Enfield, CT--doesn't look like much but they're well stocked)
and showed the guy the bearing. He reached into his junk pile, found
one that spun and was going to _give_ it to me until he found out that I
needed more than one. I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a whining
noise--that's gone.
Thought I'd post this just in case it might be useful to somebody.
http://www.woodworkingshop.com/cgi-bin/00B95036/mac/qryitems.mac/itemDisplay?lenSgDsc=6BANDACBAND%20SAW%20ACCESSORIES&qryType=GRPSG&group=MACACC
Monster hyperlink - but they sell Delta 14 and jet 14 ceramic guide blocks.
Surface grinder to grind the ceramic. The holders are already there on the
machines. Otherwise cut, drill and file or mill and file - whatever blocks.
Other sites sell blocks for these machines and others - tool companies and wood
working companies.
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/
On 7/4/2010 9:32 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On 7/4/2010 9:51 PM, Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
>> They are for sale for various saws.
>
> Where are they for sale for anything other than Laguna, Delta, or the
> generic Chinese Delta clone?
>
>> Likely takes a surface grinder. I have two. Want one ?
>
> Why would one need a surface grinder to cut some aluminum to hold blocks
> of ceramic?
>
>> Martin
>>
>> Martin H. Eastburn
>> @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
>> "Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
>> TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
>> NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
>> IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/
>>
>> On 7/4/2010 2:22 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On 7/4/2010 2:05 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> "Bob AZ"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:fbe2bd4f-6bce-4195-904a-7861c8446af5@n19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
>>>>> 25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
>>>>>
>>>>> Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
>>>>> turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
>>>>> it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a
>>>>> whining
>>>>> noise--that's gone.
>>>>
>>>> J Clark
>>>>
>>>> Next time do www.vxb.com for bearings. Great service.
>>>>
>>>> Bob AZ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Better yet, switch to ceramic guides and get rid of a bunch of
>>>> potential
>>>> problems.
>>>
>>> Care to buy me a milling machine so I can make the mounts for them? I
>>> didn't think so.
>
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Been having trouble with the roller guides on my band saw from the git go.
> First time I ran it one of the shields popped off. Put it back on and it
> was OK for a while, then another popped off. Put it back and it was OK
> for a while. This went on for several years. Yesterday one of the
> shields popped off and the cage came out. Time for a new guide. Pulled
> the bearing off and looked at it and it was marked "608ZZ". Figured I'd
> have to call around to the bearing places today, but just for hohos I
> googled the thing and found a remarkable lot of hits on skateboard sites.
> So I went down to the local skateboard shop (Skate Lair in Enfield,
> CT--doesn't look like much but they're well stocked) and showed the guy
> the bearing. He reached into his junk pile, found one that spun and was
> going to _give_ it to me until he found out that I needed more than one.
> I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for 25 bucks which let me
> replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
>
> Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
> turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
> it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a whining
> noise--that's gone.
>
> Thought I'd post this just in case it might be useful to somebody.
>
Is this a veiled desire to take up skateboarding?
A midlife criss perhaps? <G>
"Bob AZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:fbe2bd4f-6bce-4195-904a-7861c8446af5@n19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
> 25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
>
> Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
> turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
> it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a whining
> noise--that's gone.
J Clark
Next time do www.vxb.com for bearings. Great service.
Bob AZ
Better yet, switch to ceramic guides and get rid of a bunch of potential
problems.
Don't be sawing any half-pipes. It may fly up and down on ya.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Been having trouble with the roller guides on my band saw from the git
go. First time I ran it one of the shields popped off. Put it back on
and it was OK for a while, then another popped off. Put it back and it
was OK for a while. This went on for several years. Yesterday one of
the shields popped off and the cage came out. Time for a new guide.
Pulled the bearing off and looked at it and it was marked "608ZZ".
Figured I'd have to call around to the bearing places today, but just
for hohos I googled the thing and found a remarkable lot of hits on
skateboard sites. So I went down to the local skateboard shop (Skate
Lair in Enfield, CT--doesn't look like much but they're well stocked)
and showed the guy the bearing. He reached into his junk pile, found
one that spun and was going to _give_ it to me until he found out that I
needed more than one. I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a whining
noise--that's gone.
Thought I'd post this just in case it might be useful to somebody.
They are for sale for various saws.
Likely takes a surface grinder. I have two. Want one ?
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/
On 7/4/2010 2:22 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On 7/4/2010 2:05 PM, Leon wrote:
>> "Bob AZ"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:fbe2bd4f-6bce-4195-904a-7861c8446af5@n19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
>>> 25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
>>>
>>> Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
>>> turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
>>> it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a whining
>>> noise--that's gone.
>>
>> J Clark
>>
>> Next time do www.vxb.com for bearings. Great service.
>>
>> Bob AZ
>>
>>
>> Better yet, switch to ceramic guides and get rid of a bunch of potential
>> problems.
>
> Care to buy me a milling machine so I can make the mounts for them? I
> didn't think so.
=A0I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
> 25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
>
> Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
> turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
> it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a whining
> noise--that's gone.
J Clark
Next time do www.vxb.com for bearings. Great service.
Bob AZ
On 7/3/2010 11:56 PM, Bob AZ wrote:
> I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
>> 25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
>>
>> Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
>> turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
>> it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a whining
>> noise--that's gone.
>
> J Clark
>
> Next time do www.vxb.com for bearings. Great service.
Saw them. But they aren't two blocks down the street and open at 6 PM.
On 7/4/2010 2:05 PM, Leon wrote:
> "Bob AZ"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:fbe2bd4f-6bce-4195-904a-7861c8446af5@n19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
>> 25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
>>
>> Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
>> turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
>> it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a whining
>> noise--that's gone.
>
> J Clark
>
> Next time do www.vxb.com for bearings. Great service.
>
> Bob AZ
>
>
> Better yet, switch to ceramic guides and get rid of a bunch of potential
> problems.
Care to buy me a milling machine so I can make the mounts for them? I
didn't think so.
On 7/4/2010 9:51 PM, Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
> They are for sale for various saws.
Where are they for sale for anything other than Laguna, Delta, or the
generic Chinese Delta clone?
> Likely takes a surface grinder. I have two. Want one ?
Why would one need a surface grinder to cut some aluminum to hold blocks
of ceramic?
> Martin
>
> Martin H. Eastburn
> @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
> "Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
> TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
> NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
> IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/
>
> On 7/4/2010 2:22 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On 7/4/2010 2:05 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> "Bob AZ"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:fbe2bd4f-6bce-4195-904a-7861c8446af5@n19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
>>>> 25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
>>>>
>>>> Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
>>>> turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
>>>> it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a whining
>>>> noise--that's gone.
>>>
>>> J Clark
>>>
>>> Next time do www.vxb.com for bearings. Great service.
>>>
>>> Bob AZ
>>>
>>>
>>> Better yet, switch to ceramic guides and get rid of a bunch of potential
>>> problems.
>>
>> Care to buy me a milling machine so I can make the mounts for them? I
>> didn't think so.
On 7/4/2010 11:14 PM, Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
> http://www.woodworkingshop.com/cgi-bin/00B95036/mac/qryitems.mac/itemDisplay?lenSgDsc=6BANDACBAND%20SAW%20ACCESSORIES&qryType=GRPSG&group=MACACC
>
>
> Monster hyperlink - but they sell Delta 14 and jet 14 ceramic guide blocks.
What part of "other than Laguna, Delta, or the generic Chinese Delta
clone" are you having trouble with? The Jet is a generic Chinese Delta
clone. Since I do not have a Delta or Jet guides for a Delta or Jet do
me as much good as tits on a boar hog.
> Surface grinder to grind the ceramic.
I can buy ceramic guides pre-cut, the problem is the holder.
> The holders are already there on
> the machines.
No, they are not. The issue being addressed is a machine that is sold
with roller bearing guides and _only_ with roller bearing guides. The
entire assembly holding the guides has to be replaced with one that has
a means of securing the ceramic guides, unless one wants to make
ball-bearing shaped ceramic guides with screw-holes in the middle, and I
don't see how that gains anything over the existing roller guides.
> Otherwise cut, drill and file or mill and file - whatever
> blocks.
>
> Other sites sell blocks for these machines and others - tool companies
> and wood working companies.
Please identify one.
Quite frankly it pisses me off when somebody says "do this" or "do that"
without actually having a concrete recommendation about how to do it
other than a vague "there are sites".
> Martin
>
> Martin H. Eastburn
> @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
> "Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
> TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
> NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
> IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/
>
> On 7/4/2010 9:32 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On 7/4/2010 9:51 PM, Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
>>> They are for sale for various saws.
>>
>> Where are they for sale for anything other than Laguna, Delta, or the
>> generic Chinese Delta clone?
>>
>>> Likely takes a surface grinder. I have two. Want one ?
>>
>> Why would one need a surface grinder to cut some aluminum to hold blocks
>> of ceramic?
>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> Martin H. Eastburn
>>> @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot
>>> net
>>> "Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
>>> TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
>>> NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
>>> IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/
>>>
>>> On 7/4/2010 2:22 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> On 7/4/2010 2:05 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> "Bob AZ"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fbe2bd4f-6bce-4195-904a-7861c8446af5@n19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I ended up getting a set of 8 sealed ABEC-5s for
>>>>>> 25 bucks which let me replace the whole lot with a couple of spares.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Turned out that a couple of the bearings on the lower guide weren't
>>>>>> turning at all, and at least one more had something wrong with
>>>>>> it--periodically when one or the other was contacted I'd hear a
>>>>>> whining
>>>>>> noise--that's gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> J Clark
>>>>>
>>>>> Next time do www.vxb.com for bearings. Great service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob AZ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Better yet, switch to ceramic guides and get rid of a bunch of
>>>>> potential
>>>>> problems.
>>>>
>>>> Care to buy me a milling machine so I can make the mounts for them? I
>>>> didn't think so.
>>
On 7/5/2010 9:16 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>> On 7/4/2010 2:22 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On 7/4/2010 2:05 PM, Leon wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Better yet, switch to ceramic guides and get rid of a bunch of potential
>>>> problems.
>>>
>>> Care to buy me a milling machine so I can make the mounts for them? I
>>> didn't think so.
>
>
> If you have a Jet or Delta
And another one who won't read a post through before responding. I do
not have a Jet or Delta or Grizzly or any other saw on that pattern.
> you change to a superior set of ceramic guides
> complete with holders, and then your guide problem goes away pretty much for
> ever.
>
> http://www.lagunatools.com/accessories/bandsaw-guides
I believe that I mentioned Laguna in my post as well.
>
> On 7/4/2010 2:22 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On 7/4/2010 2:05 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Better yet, switch to ceramic guides and get rid of a bunch of potential
>>> problems.
>>
>> Care to buy me a milling machine so I can make the mounts for them? I
>> didn't think so.
If you have a Jet or Delta you change to a superior set of ceramic guides
complete with holders, and then your guide problem goes away pretty much for
ever.
http://www.lagunatools.com/accessories/bandsaw-guides