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26/10/2004 12:34 PM

I hate staining!

why can't they just choose wood the color they want to end up with....


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p

in reply to [email protected] on 26/10/2004 12:34 PM

29/10/2004 12:03 AM

Yeah - have a couple of Bartley's - but in colors that I haven't had a
reason to try on anything larger than a sample yet...

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to [email protected] on 26/10/2004 12:34 PM

26/10/2004 8:35 PM

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:34:02 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>why can't they just choose wood the color they want to end up with....


Maybe that want that oak to look 100 years old?

Maybe they have a large library to build that they want to look like
cherry or walnut, on a birch plywood budget?

I'm with you about starting with the right wood, but it's not always
possible.

Barry

tt

"toller"

in reply to [email protected] on 26/10/2004 12:34 PM

03/11/2004 7:41 PM

Just reading the description, it seems like the Minwax product that combines
the stain and the poly.
I can never get that on without leaving gobby drips. Is this better?
Different?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 26/10/2004 12:34 PM

27/10/2004 10:10 PM


"TWS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...


> What about grain lifting? Did it lift from the stain and require
> sanding - this usually affects color somewhat.

Typically I think all gel stains are oil based. Oil based products do not
raise the grain.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 26/10/2004 12:34 PM

26/10/2004 10:06 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> why can't they just choose wood the color they want to end up with....

You know, I simply price "stained" the same as the wood that they want to
copy. That accomplishes them picking out the correct color wood to start
with or builds in more profit for me.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 26/10/2004 12:34 PM

27/10/2004 10:07 PM


"patrick conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> Yesterday, on a whim, I tried this stuff:
> http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?&cookietest=1&&sku=10847
>
> I had used Gel's before - but this stuff seems nicer. I like the
> color. And it was a breeze to put on and wipe off. Also seemed to dry
> faster that others - left the pieces in a *cold* garage overnight and
> in the morning they were dry. No color removal as I added topcoats.
>

Actually if you like that brand you might want to try Bartley's Gel Stains
also. IIRC Rockler also sells Bartley's. I have been using Bartley's gel
stains and varnishes for about 15 years. Typically the stain or varnish can
be reapplied in 6 hours. Dry to touch an about 30 minutes if the humidity
is moderate.

pc

patrick conroy

in reply to [email protected] on 26/10/2004 12:34 PM

27/10/2004 5:03 PM

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:34:02 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>why can't they just choose wood the color they want to end up with....

Typically, I *dread* staining. Everything about it. The trepidation:
will the color end up what I wanted; did I get all the squeeze out
off; will I hit a spot on a board that mottles; will I accidentally
dump the stuff on the floor...

Yesterday, on a whim, I tried this stuff:
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?&cookietest=1&&sku=10847

I had used Gel's before - but this stuff seems nicer. I like the
color. And it was a breeze to put on and wipe off. Also seemed to dry
faster that others - left the pieces in a *cold* garage overnight and
in the morning they were dry. No color removal as I added topcoats.

TT

TWS

in reply to [email protected] on 26/10/2004 12:34 PM

27/10/2004 8:17 PM

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:03:46 GMT, patrick conroy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:34:02 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>why can't they just choose wood the color they want to end up with....
>
>Typically, I *dread* staining. Everything about it. The trepidation:
>will the color end up what I wanted; did I get all the squeeze out
>off; will I hit a spot on a board that mottles; will I accidentally
>dump the stuff on the floor...
>
>Yesterday, on a whim, I tried this stuff:
>http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?&cookietest=1&&sku=10847
>
>I had used Gel's before - but this stuff seems nicer. I like the
>color. And it was a breeze to put on and wipe off. Also seemed to dry
>faster that others - left the pieces in a *cold* garage overnight and
>in the morning they were dry. No color removal as I added topcoats.
What about grain lifting? Did it lift from the stain and require
sanding - this usually affects color somewhat.

TWS
http://tomstudwell.com/allprojects.htm

p

in reply to [email protected] on 26/10/2004 12:34 PM

29/10/2004 12:03 AM

Twasn't water based - no grain lifting.


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