Br

Ba r r y

20/11/2005 7:59 PM

Some stuff is just worth the price...

About a week ago, my dishwasher overflowed. The water sought a pipe
hole, which just happened to be right over the DJ-20 in my basement
shop. As soon as I realized that the jointer was soaked, I
disconnected the power, toweled it off, and fogged it with an aerosol
water displacer / lube called Boeshield I recently purchased. I
covered the jointer with plastic and went back to cleaning up the
upstairs mess.

The Boesheild dried and left a waxy grease behind. This coating was
easily removed with a spritz of fresh product and some old t-shirts.
Today, I wiped the machine down to prepare to use it again, and there
isn't a speck of rust ANYWHERE! Boesheild totally repelled the water.

This stuff isn't cheap, but I'm sold... I'm still going to use
paste wax for pre-use wipes, but I'm keeping this stuff around for
emergencies and long-term protection. It seems like it would be
terrific for lesser used hand tools.

-- DISCLAIMER -- I don't sell Boeshield, I don't own stock in the
manufacturer, and I've never gotten it for free. In fact, I've never
even had a coupon for a discount. I don't really care if you buy it.
<G> -- /DISCLAIMER --

I just wanted to share my experience with others who may be too cheap
(like I was for a long time) to pull the trigger on a can of it.

Barry


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"CW"

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

21/11/2005 2:44 AM

WD-40 is a water displacer. It was not designed to prevent rust.

"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:59:06 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Barry,
> >
> >Yep, it's good stuff but a bit pricey as you noted. WD40 probably would
> >have worked as well for what you needed right then - water displacement,
> >which it does very well.
>
> My experience with WD-40 is that little protection is left behind.
> I've seen bicycle chains rust two days after WD-40 was applied.
>
> The plastic wasn't airtight, it was only over the surfaces.
>
> Barry

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

21/11/2005 8:41 PM


"eganders" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have been looking for a used DJ-20. I wonder if I could find one
> with a dowsing rod based on your senario??

If my law "water finds the DJ-20" is true dowsing would work just fine...
How about testing the law and see if it proofs out for me?

Thanks,

John

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"eganders"

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

21/11/2005 4:27 AM

I have been looking for a used DJ-20. I wonder if I could find one
with a dowsing rod based on your senario??

Do

"Duke of Burl"

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

21/11/2005 1:02 PM

It was developed by Boeing to protect aircraft and aircraft part I
believe.

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

20/11/2005 8:40 PM

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:59:06 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Barry,
>
>Yep, it's good stuff but a bit pricey as you noted. WD40 probably would
>have worked as well for what you needed right then - water displacement,
>which it does very well.

My experience with WD-40 is that little protection is left behind.
I've seen bicycle chains rust two days after WD-40 was applied.

The plastic wasn't airtight, it was only over the surfaces.

Barry

DD

David

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

20/11/2005 9:00 PM

wood addict wrote:

> the technology used buy WD-40 is 50 years old and hasn't changed since
> then.. There are far better products on the market. pour you diehard WD-40
> fans try this, Spray your cap off the can until you have about a 1/3 of an
> inch in the cap let the foam dissipate then pour it into a clear half full
> glass of water, it will FLOAT! The molecular weight of WD-40 is lighter
> than water. WD-was the best stuff going 50 years back, but its
> long-in-the- tooth now. There are much better penetrates, lubricants, water
> displacers and protestants today
>
>
WD40 sucks at preventing rust or for lubrication. It's fine for
displacing water or as a solvent. Try lubing a bike chain with it and
then see how far you get before the chain kinks up. <g> or applying a
heavy coat of WD-40 to a cast iron surface in a high humidity area.
It'll rust terribly after it's evaporated.

Dave

Bs

"BobS"

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

20/11/2005 9:59 PM

Barry,

Yep, it's good stuff but a bit pricey as you noted. WD40 probably would
have worked as well for what you needed right then - water displacement,
which it does very well. You noted that you covered it with a plastic sheet
supposedly to keep any more water from dripping on it. Plastic will trap
condensation since it's not a breathable fabric and cause rust - so it's not
a good idea to cover cast iron tools with plastic sheets for very long.

Glad to hear the tools survived - how about the other minor things - like
the house......;-)

Bob S.



"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> About a week ago, my dishwasher overflowed. The water sought a pipe
> hole, which just happened to be right over the DJ-20 in my basement
> shop. As soon as I realized that the jointer was soaked, I
> disconnected the power, toweled it off, and fogged it with an aerosol
> water displacer / lube called Boeshield I recently purchased. I
> covered the jointer with plastic and went back to cleaning up the
> upstairs mess.
>
> The Boesheild dried and left a waxy grease behind. This coating was
> easily removed with a spritz of fresh product and some old t-shirts.
> Today, I wiped the machine down to prepare to use it again, and there
> isn't a speck of rust ANYWHERE! Boesheild totally repelled the water.
>
> This stuff isn't cheap, but I'm sold... I'm still going to use
> paste wax for pre-use wipes, but I'm keeping this stuff around for
> emergencies and long-term protection. It seems like it would be
> terrific for lesser used hand tools.
>
> -- DISCLAIMER -- I don't sell Boeshield, I don't own stock in the
> manufacturer, and I've never gotten it for free. In fact, I've never
> even had a coupon for a discount. I don't really care if you buy it.
> <G> -- /DISCLAIMER --
>
> I just wanted to share my experience with others who may be too cheap
> (like I was for a long time) to pull the trigger on a can of it.
>
> Barry
>

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

20/11/2005 10:02 PM


"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> About a week ago, my dishwasher overflowed. The water sought a pipe
> hole, which just happened to be right over the DJ-20 in my basement
> shop. As soon as I realized that the jointer was soaked, I
> disconnected the power, toweled it off, and fogged it with an aerosol
> water displacer / lube called Boeshield I recently purchased. I

Had the Christmas tree, which I was FORBIDDEN TO TOUCH (wife and kid's role
ya' know) fall over last year. The water ran down into my shop... got the
hollow chisel mortiser and the DJ-20. I've had the DJ-20 well waxed with
Johnson's, repeatedly over time, but the hollow chisel mortiser only had a
light coat. When I saw the water I soaked the tools down with WD40... DJ-20
came out fine but the table on the mortiser has some dark areas... BTW, at
that point my wife agreed that we don't do live trees any more! ;~)

Hmmm, is two data points enough to write a law, paraphrased from the one
about "level," that states that "water finds the DJ-20?"

John


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"wood addict"

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

21/11/2005 4:52 AM


the technology used buy WD-40 is 50 years old and hasn't changed since
then.. There are far better products on the market. pour you diehard WD-40
fans try this, Spray your cap off the can until you have about a 1/3 of an
inch in the cap let the foam dissipate then pour it into a clear half full
glass of water, it will FLOAT! The molecular weight of WD-40 is lighter
than water. WD-was the best stuff going 50 years back, but its
long-in-the- tooth now. There are much better penetrates, lubricants, water
displacers and protestants today

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

20/11/2005 8:40 PM

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:02:22 GMT, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hmmm, is two data points enough to write a law, paraphrased from the one
>about "level," that states that "water finds the DJ-20?"

At least it missed my General 650. <G>

Barry

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

20/11/2005 4:35 PM

"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message

> Hmmm, is two data points enough to write a law, paraphrased from the one
> about "level," that states that "water finds the DJ-20?"

Not necessary, it's already covered by Murphy's.

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Ba

B a r r y

in reply to Ba r r y on 20/11/2005 7:59 PM

21/11/2005 12:41 PM

eganders wrote:
> I have been looking for a used DJ-20. I wonder if I could find one
> with a dowsing rod based on your senario??
>

I've decided to seek surplus space capsule flotation collars from the
Apollo space program. I could mount one to the base of each tool, with
a water activated trigger. Upon contact with water, the collars would
self inflate, drop the DC & power connection, and the tool will float free.

I could get really fancy and add an EPRIB, so I could find it later.

Picture this:
<http://www.uscg.mil/datasheet/images/HH-60.jpg>, but with stationary
tools being hoisted to safety!

Barry


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