Some day in the not to distant future the Sun is going to it's damp
winter home (I live in Oregon) and I am going back to my shop. My
plan is to arm myself with a few things that I just can't live
without. 5th or 6th on the list is a Japamese saw. I plan to use it
to cut dovetails in Walnut and Mapel. I want to spend around $40
unless I can get the same thing for $20.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
So far I have been easly manipulated by you folks. You say buy the
Dewalt 12" compound sliding Miter Saw ... I buy the Dewalt 12"
compound sliding Miter Saw. You say it's OK to buy the MiniMax 10"
Table Saw with the scoring blade... I buy the MiniMax 10" Table Saw
with the scoring blade. You tell me that 16x32 drum sander is a good
investment and I of course, do the right thing. I have explaind to my
wife that it is just better for every one involved if I heed your well
thought out advice.
Thanks for all your help
Russ
I recommend The Japan Woodworker as a tool supplier. Check out their dozuki
saws:
www.japanwoodworker.com
Good service, good tools, lots to choose from.
No affiliation, just satisfied.
-jbb
"russ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Some day in the not to distant future the Sun is going to it's damp
> winter home (I live in Oregon) and I am going back to my shop. My
> plan is to arm myself with a few things that I just can't live
> without. 5th or 6th on the list is a Japamese saw. I plan to use it
> to cut dovetails in Walnut and Mapel. I want to spend around $40
> unless I can get the same thing for $20.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
> So far I have been easly manipulated by you folks. You say buy the
> Dewalt 12" compound sliding Miter Saw ... I buy the Dewalt 12"
> compound sliding Miter Saw. You say it's OK to buy the MiniMax 10"
> Table Saw with the scoring blade... I buy the MiniMax 10" Table Saw
> with the scoring blade. You tell me that 16x32 drum sander is a good
> investment and I of course, do the right thing. I have explaind to my
> wife that it is just better for every one involved if I heed your well
> thought out advice.
>
> Thanks for all your help
>
> Russ
[email protected] (russ) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Some day in the not to distant future the Sun is going to it's damp
> winter home (I live in Oregon) and I am going back to my shop. My
> plan is to arm myself with a few things that I just can't live
> without. 5th or 6th on the list is a Japamese saw. I plan to use it
> to cut dovetails in Walnut and Mapel. I want to spend around $40
> unless I can get the same thing for $20.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
> So far I have been easly manipulated by you folks. You say buy the
> Dewalt 12" compound sliding Miter Saw ... I buy the Dewalt 12"
> compound sliding Miter Saw. You say it's OK to buy the MiniMax 10"
> Table Saw with the scoring blade... I buy the MiniMax 10" Table Saw
> with the scoring blade. You tell me that 16x32 drum sander is a good
> investment and I of course, do the right thing. I have explaind to my
> wife that it is just better for every one involved if I heed your well
> thought out advice.
>
> Thanks for all your help
>
> Russ
>
So what you want for dovetails is the Adria Dovetail saw, or the LN
Independence Dovetail saw. Or both. And explain to the wife that the
budget was just preliminary, and you're sorry that you were off by about
$200.
That always works, doesn't it? I mean, you got the MiniMax, didn't you?
Patriarch
[email protected] (Adrian Mariano) wrote in
news:dZW2d.30616$aW5.22557@fed1read07:
<snip>
>>So what you want for dovetails is the Adria Dovetail saw, or the LN
>>Independence Dovetail saw. Or both. And explain to the wife that the
>>budget was just preliminary, and you're sorry that you were off by about
>>$200.
>
> I got an Adria saw and found it to be a nice saw. It's beautiful.
> But like other push saws it still binds in the kerf sometimes and this
> gives me an irregular cut. Maybe this is a user skill issue, but I
> used it for a while and it didn't get better. <snip>
Adrian, I'm pretty sure it's a user preference issue. There are many folks
who prefer the pull saw, particularly when cutting dovetails. However, the
muscle memory ingrained in me really early on the use of a handsaw still
takes over, and I want to push. Even when I KNOW that's not right. So the
push saws work best for me.
You should use what works for you. We're here to make nice things, and
enjoy ourselves.
Patriarch
patriarch <<patriarch>[email protected]> writes:
>[email protected] (russ) wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>> Some day in the not to distant future the Sun is going to it's damp
>> winter home (I live in Oregon) and I am going back to my shop. My
>> plan is to arm myself with a few things that I just can't live
>> without. 5th or 6th on the list is a Japamese saw. I plan to use it
>> to cut dovetails in Walnut and Mapel. I want to spend around $40
>> unless I can get the same thing for $20.
>>
>> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>>
>> So far I have been easly manipulated by you folks. You say buy the
>> Dewalt 12" compound sliding Miter Saw ... I buy the Dewalt 12"
>> compound sliding Miter Saw. You say it's OK to buy the MiniMax 10"
>> Table Saw with the scoring blade... I buy the MiniMax 10" Table Saw
>> with the scoring blade. You tell me that 16x32 drum sander is a good
>> investment and I of course, do the right thing. I have explaind to my
>> wife that it is just better for every one involved if I heed your well
>> thought out advice.
>>
>> Thanks for all your help
>>
>> Russ
>>
>So what you want for dovetails is the Adria Dovetail saw, or the LN
>Independence Dovetail saw. Or both. And explain to the wife that the
>budget was just preliminary, and you're sorry that you were off by about
>$200.
I got an Adria saw and found it to be a nice saw. It's beautiful.
But like other push saws it still binds in the kerf sometimes and this
gives me an irregular cut. Maybe this is a user skill issue, but I
used it for a while and it didn't get better. The Adria is probably
better than my crosscut dozuki for dovetails. I have an easier time
cutting straight with it, particularly compared to my really fine
crosscut dozuki. If you want to get a cheap crosscut dozuki for
dovetails get one with a middling number of teeth, not a really fine
one. The fine one I have cuts too slowly and wanders easily in its
kerf. (These cheap saws have a large set so the kerf is wide and
because it's a crosscut saw it doesn't rip cut very fast.)
For dovetails what you want is a Japanese dozuki saw with RIP teeth.
Lee Valley sells one for around $80 and I like it much better than the
Adria saw. It cuts fast, smooth and straight and it never
binds in the kerf. Once I got this the Adria has just been collecting
dust. If you want alternatives to Lee Valley you can look at
www.hidatool.com as well as Japan Woodworker. Hida I think has a rip
tooth dozuki around $80.
On 6 Sep 2004 01:25:30 -0700, [email protected] (russ) calmly
ranted:
>Some day in the not to distant future the Sun is going to it's damp
>winter home (I live in Oregon) and I am going back to my shop. My
>plan is to arm myself with a few things that I just can't live
>without. 5th or 6th on the list is a Japamese saw. I plan to use it
>to cut dovetails in Walnut and Mapel. I want to spend around $40
>unless I can get the same thing for $20.
>
>Thoughts? Suggestions?
I picked up one of their razor (Ryoba) saws last week and I like
it better than my Lee Valley (French imported) dovetail saw. It's
was $25.95 delivered via a coupon in the FWW, and I found out later
that it was made specifically for softwoods. I'll pick up a hardwood
blade for it next. If you call them, ask for the hardwood model and
see if they still honor the coupon price. Gyokucho Noko Giro
http://thejapanwoodworker.com/product.asp?s=JapanWoodworker&pf_id=19.610.0&dept_id=11812
The hardwood model, specifically for maple, etc. is
http://thejapanwoodworker.com/product.asp?s=JapanWoodworker&pf_id=19.611.0&dept_id=11812
http://thejapanwoodworker.com/product.asp?s=JapanWoodworker&pf_id=15.132.10&dept_id=11809
is their $35 Dozuki Noko Giri (dovetail saw) and it looks nice,
but I haven't tried it.
Both are under your stated budget.
If you have trouble with the links, go to www.thejapanwoodworker.com
and click on: Woodworking Tools
Saws & saw blades
Japanese Pull-style saws
and Dozuki
or Ryoba
>So far I have been easly manipulated by you folks. You say buy the
>Dewalt 12" compound sliding Miter Saw ... I buy the Dewalt 12"
>compound sliding Miter Saw. You say it's OK to buy the MiniMax 10"
>Table Saw with the scoring blade... I buy the MiniMax 10" Table Saw
>with the scoring blade. You tell me that 16x32 drum sander is a good
>investment and I of course, do the right thing. I have explaind to my
>wife that it is just better for every one involved if I heed your well
>thought out advice.
They also have $114 Kondo and $140 Izaemon professional dovies.
http://thejapanwoodworker.com/product.asp?s=JapanWoodworker&pf_id=01.117.02&dept_id=11809
http://thejapanwoodworker.com/product.asp?s=JapanWoodworker&pf_id=05.114.21&dept_id=11809
>Thanks for all your help
Thank us by sending money or tools. They're expensive!
;)
.-.
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