I looked online at Milwaukee and Dewalt and was surpsrised the the
specs didn't show the distance from the tip of the chuck to the back
of the drill.
I stopped at Lowes last night and measured the Milwaukee and it is
about 5 1/2" with the chuck jaws fully retracted to the back of the
angle. Not nearly as small as I would like, anybody make one that can
get into tighter spots?
I need a 'real' drill not some right angle screwdriver from B&D since
I will be using this to drill into concrete. Yeah I know an impact
drill should be used but those things are gigantic.
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:03:12 -0700 (PDT), Limp Arbor <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Mar 30, 4:28 pm, Rocky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have the Milwaukee and it has plenty of power. Just be advised, you
>> MUST unplug this drill before inserting or changing bits. The trigger
>> mechanism is very easy to push while you crank the chuck key to
>> tighten the chuck. Result: the motor starts and the key comes around
>> and gets caught under the plastic housing. Besides being dangerous,
>> it's a pain to get the key unstuck. Of course this did not happen to
>> me, someone told me.
>>
>> Rocky
>
>Yeah, I also 'know a guy' who wrapped the cord around his arm when
>changing a drill bit. Now that guy has all the chuck keys attached to
>the cord near the plug...
>http://tooltray.com/ViewProduct.asp?i=159069
>
My right-angle drill is only used on the lathe, so I took the key off the holder
and it stays on a rare earth magnet on the lathe, next to the key for the tail
stock chuck..
Not a good solution if you use the drill in different places, but works well for
my application..
I do the same with the drill press chuck key..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
I have a Bosch 1132VSR right angle corded drill. It is about 3" from the tip
of the chuck to the back of the housing with much of the chuck recessed into
the metal housing. It would be hard to find any other with smaller
measurements.
"Limp Arbor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:cb7bbae9-81e0-4364-9693-7f3a5a1035c6@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>I looked online at Milwaukee and Dewalt and was surpsrised the the
> specs didn't show the distance from the tip of the chuck to the back
> of the drill.
>
> I stopped at Lowes last night and measured the Milwaukee and it is
> about 5 1/2" with the chuck jaws fully retracted to the back of the
> angle. Not nearly as small as I would like, anybody make one that can
> get into tighter spots?
>
> I need a 'real' drill not some right angle screwdriver from B&D since
> I will be using this to drill into concrete. Yeah I know an impact
> drill should be used but those things are gigantic.
On Mar 30, 4:28=A0pm, Rocky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have the Milwaukee and it has plenty of power. =A0Just be advised, you
> MUST unplug this drill before inserting or changing bits. =A0The trigger
> mechanism is very easy to push while you crank the chuck key to
> tighten the chuck. =A0Result: =A0the motor starts and the key comes around=
> and gets caught under the plastic housing. =A0Besides being dangerous,
> it's a pain to get the key unstuck. Of course this did not happen to
> me, someone told me.
>
> Rocky
Yeah, I also 'know a guy' who wrapped the cord around his arm when
changing a drill bit. Now that guy has all the chuck keys attached to
the cord near the plug...
http://tooltray.com/ViewProduct.asp?i=3D159069
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:07:17 -0700 (PDT), Limp Arbor <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I looked online at Milwaukee and Dewalt and was surpsrised the the
>specs didn't show the distance from the tip of the chuck to the back
>of the drill.
>
>I stopped at Lowes last night and measured the Milwaukee and it is
>about 5 1/2" with the chuck jaws fully retracted to the back of the
>angle. Not nearly as small as I would like, anybody make one that can
>get into tighter spots?
>
>I need a 'real' drill not some right angle screwdriver from B&D since
>I will be using this to drill into concrete. Yeah I know an impact
>drill should be used but those things are gigantic.
I bought a (corded) Milwaukee knock off on Ebay a couple of years ago on Ebay..
They called it a "close quarter" drill and it is, sorta..
I figured it might last for a few months and be a throwaway.. Only paid $30
w/shipping... Damn thing has sanded maybe 100 or so bowls and still running like
new..
The only thing I'd like is a keyless chuck, but I don't think the Milwaukee is
either, is it?
AFAIK, the Milwaukee is about the smallest real angle drill..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
SPAMplease.enm.com says...
> Don't get me wrong, I love the Milwaukee Hole Hawg, though its not made to
> drill concrete. We use it mostly with Self-fed bits for boring holes in
> studs, top plates, etc. Its great also for mixing concrete, grout, drywall
> texture, etc...
>
> Bosch 1/2" Dual Torque Hammer Drill
> http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1199VSRK-2-Inch-Hammer-Drill/dp/B0001408SE
>
> Milwaukee Hole Hawg
> http://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-3107-6-2-Inch-Right-D-Handle/dp/B0000223HJ
>
> Scott<-
>
I'd go with this over the Bosch:
http://www.amazon.com/Metabo-SBE750-2in-Hammer-Drill/dp/B000VY873M/ref=sr_1_1?
ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1206803719&sr=1-1
Metabo tend to be more reliable and consistent with their hammer drills in my
experience. I've managed to wear a couple out, but it's taken me 20-30 years in
both cases. And I used to drill plenty of concrete with them.
-P.
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Lowell Holmes wrote:
>
> "Limp Arbor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:cb7bbae9-81e0-4364-9693-7f3a5a1035c6@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >I looked online at Milwaukee and Dewalt and was surpsrised the the
> > specs didn't show the distance from the tip of the chuck to the back
> > of the drill.
> >
> > I stopped at Lowes last night and measured the Milwaukee and it is
> > about 5 1/2" with the chuck jaws fully retracted to the back of the
> > angle. Not nearly as small as I would like, anybody make one that can
> > get into tighter spots?
> >
> > I need a 'real' drill not some right angle screwdriver from B&D since
> > I will be using this to drill into concrete. Yeah I know an impact
> > drill should be used but those things are gigantic.
>
> I have a Dewalt right angle drill that is more than screwdriver, but it is
> battery powered and is not an impact tool. IIRC, Milwaukee has a corded
> right angle drill that is a drill, but again it is not an impact tool. I
> suspect you may have a problem. The big box stores are not a good place to
> look for unusual tools. I'm sure you must have googled right angle drills by
> now.
Hilti TE5 right angle rotary hammer - not cheap, but can't beat it with
a stick. May be able to rent one.
On Mar 29, 8:07 am, Limp Arbor <[email protected]> wrote:
> I looked online at Milwaukee and Dewalt and was surpsrised the the
> specs didn't show the distance from the tip of the chuck to the back
> of the drill.
>
> I stopped at Lowes last night and measured the Milwaukee and it is
> about 5 1/2" with the chuck jaws fully retracted to the back of the
> angle. Not nearly as small as I would like, anybody make one that can
> get into tighter spots?
>
> I need a 'real' drill not some right angle screwdriver from B&D since
> I will be using this to drill into concrete. Yeah I know an impact
> drill should be used but those things are gigantic.
Makita DA3000R
This is a real 3/8" variable speed right angle drill that is 3-1/2"
from the chuck tip to the back of the drill. I have one and it works
great.
http://www.makita.com/menu.php?pg=product_det&tag=DA3000R
On Mar 29, 8:07 am, Limp Arbor <[email protected]> wrote:
> I looked online at Milwaukee and Dewalt and was surpsrised the the
> specs didn't show the distance from the tip of the chuck to the back
> of the drill.
>
> I stopped at Lowes last night and measured the Milwaukee and it is
> about 5 1/2" with the chuck jaws fully retracted to the back of the
> angle. Not nearly as small as I would like, anybody make one that can
> get into tighter spots?
>
> I need a 'real' drill not some right angle screwdriver from B&D since
> I will be using this to drill into concrete. Yeah I know an impact
> drill should be used but those things are gigantic.
I have the Milwaukee and it has plenty of power. Just be advised, you
MUST unplug this drill before inserting or changing bits. The trigger
mechanism is very easy to push while you crank the chuck key to
tighten the chuck. Result: the motor starts and the key comes around
and gets caught under the plastic housing. Besides being dangerous,
it's a pain to get the key unstuck. Of course this did not happen to
me, someone told me.
Rocky
On Mar 29, 11:17=A0am, "EXT" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a Bosch 1132VSR right angle corded drill. It is about 3" from the t=
ip
> of the chuck to the back of the housing with much of the chuck recessed in=
to
> the metal housing. It would be hard to find any other with smaller
> measurements.
>
So close. I should have mentioned I'm drilling 1/2 holes in
lightweight concrete, so I need a 1/2 chuck. Stopped at the local
rental place they had what looked like a PC (no lables) and it was
about 6" from chuck face to back. The Hilti's were all monsters.
I figure I will spend more on bits than anything else in this
project. I will have to go about 5" deep so I will probably need
three different length bits since I can only go ~1 1/2" deep at a time
with the Milwaukee. I *only* need to drill about 10 holes this way so
if it takes a long time and burns up a bit or two I can deal with it.
I'm just surprised that the MW r-angle drill is so big and nobody
seems to make a smaller one.
Limp Arbor wrote:
> On Mar 29, 11:17 am, "EXT" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have a Bosch 1132VSR right angle corded drill. It is about 3"
>> from
>> the tip of the chuck to the back of the housing with much of the
>> chuck recessed into the metal housing. It would be hard to find any
>> other with smaller measurements.
>>
>
> So close. I should have mentioned I'm drilling 1/2 holes in
> lightweight concrete, so I need a 1/2 chuck.
No, you don't. Get reduced shank bits. Mcmaster has them with
drilling depths as low as 2 inches (look at the hex shank hammer bits
for that length with a 3/8 shank).
> Stopped at the local
> rental place they had what looked like a PC (no lables) and it was
> about 6" from chuck face to back. The Hilti's were all monsters.
>
> I figure I will spend more on bits than anything else in this
> project. I will have to go about 5" deep so I will probably need
> three different length bits since I can only go ~1 1/2" deep at a
> time
> with the Milwaukee. I *only* need to drill about 10 holes this way
> so
> if it takes a long time and burns up a bit or two I can deal with
> it.
> I'm just surprised that the MW r-angle drill is so big and nobody
> seems to make a smaller one.
If you go with a 3/8 drill you can get a lower profile. Half inch
angle drills are designed for torque, not compactness. Also, take a
look at air drills.
If you're working in a confined space with an angle drill then you
might want to consider drilling undersized then reboring with larger
bits--if you can't get any force behind it a half inch masonry bit in
a non-hammer drill is going to be very slow going.
--
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--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
I have both of the following... We bought the hammer drill after the hole
hawg (right angle) We started using the Right angle to drill into a concrete
slab, but it was not cutting it. Too low of torque or something, we switched
to another Milwaukee corded drill.
When we wanted to add stairs and needed to bolt anchored to the concrete I
bought the Bosch Hammer Drill. Talk about belting the concrete like
butter... Its a world of Difference... Though make sure you get the Hammer
Drill bits... we just used it with some cheap bit and it tore it up...
The Bosch Hammer Drill is not a monster like the big boy rotary hammer
drills. Its pretty much the size of a normal corded drill.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Milwaukee Hole Hawg, though its not made to
drill concrete. We use it mostly with Self-fed bits for boring holes in
studs, top plates, etc. Its great also for mixing concrete, grout, drywall
texture, etc...
Bosch 1/2" Dual Torque Hammer Drill
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1199VSRK-2-Inch-Hammer-Drill/dp/B0001408SE
Milwaukee Hole Hawg
http://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-3107-6-2-Inch-Right-D-Handle/dp/B0000223HJ
Scott<-
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> "Lowell Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Limp Arbor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:cb7bbae9-81e0-4364-9693-7f3a5a1035c6@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>I looked online at Milwaukee and Dewalt and was surpsrised the the
>>> specs didn't show the distance from the tip of the chuck to the back
>>> of the drill.
>>>
>>> I stopped at Lowes last night and measured the Milwaukee and it is
>>> about 5 1/2" with the chuck jaws fully retracted to the back of the
>>> angle. Not nearly as small as I would like, anybody make one that can
>>> get into tighter spots?
>>>
>>> I need a 'real' drill not some right angle screwdriver from B&D since
>>> I will be using this to drill into concrete. Yeah I know an impact
>>> drill should be used but those things are gigantic.
>>
> snip
>
> Your in luck. Google had this site at the top of the list.
> http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/industry-news.asp?sectionID=1490&articleID=512774
>
"Lowell Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Limp Arbor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:cb7bbae9-81e0-4364-9693-7f3a5a1035c6@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>I looked online at Milwaukee and Dewalt and was surpsrised the the
>> specs didn't show the distance from the tip of the chuck to the back
>> of the drill.
>>
>> I stopped at Lowes last night and measured the Milwaukee and it is
>> about 5 1/2" with the chuck jaws fully retracted to the back of the
>> angle. Not nearly as small as I would like, anybody make one that can
>> get into tighter spots?
>>
>> I need a 'real' drill not some right angle screwdriver from B&D since
>> I will be using this to drill into concrete. Yeah I know an impact
>> drill should be used but those things are gigantic.
>
snip
Your in luck. Google had this site at the top of the list.
http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/industry-news.asp?sectionID=1490&articleID=512774
"Limp Arbor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:cb7bbae9-81e0-4364-9693-7f3a5a1035c6@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>I looked online at Milwaukee and Dewalt and was surpsrised the the
> specs didn't show the distance from the tip of the chuck to the back
> of the drill.
>
> I stopped at Lowes last night and measured the Milwaukee and it is
> about 5 1/2" with the chuck jaws fully retracted to the back of the
> angle. Not nearly as small as I would like, anybody make one that can
> get into tighter spots?
>
> I need a 'real' drill not some right angle screwdriver from B&D since
> I will be using this to drill into concrete. Yeah I know an impact
> drill should be used but those things are gigantic.
I have a Dewalt right angle drill that is more than screwdriver, but it is
battery powered and is not an impact tool. IIRC, Milwaukee has a corded
right angle drill that is a drill, but again it is not an impact tool. I
suspect you may have a problem. The big box stores are not a good place to
look for unusual tools. I'm sure you must have googled right angle drills by
now.
"Limp Arbor" wrote
Yeah, I also 'know a guy' who wrapped the cord around his arm when
changing a drill bit. Now that guy has all the chuck keys attached to
the cord near the plug...
http://tooltray.com/ViewProduct.asp?i=159069
I duct tape the chuck keyholder near the plug. Sometimes the sliding holder
can cause a big surprise otherwise.
I had a friend who used to do some irritating things in the shop. One of
the tihings he did was to duct tape the chuck key holder the exact distance
from the drill that it would hang up on the bench top and prevent you from
using it.