Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared
to be taking notes.
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
And who knows if you have a yearling that got left behind and the
sow, the nasty one, got away.
Just don't get one cornered and have it come out and bite you in the
eyes or snout. Then it is the neck before it runs off.
Martin
-MIKE- wrote:
> Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
>> East Texas - the south in general. Water and cover makes a
>> happy habitat.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
>>>> They are all around here and are known to kill dogs if cornered.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Opossum?
>>>
>>> Where's around here? Three Mile Island?
>>>
>
> I know things are bigger in Texas, but I still don't believe you. :-)
>
> It totally goes against their nature/instinct.
>
> I've heard of many, many instances of dogs killing opossums, bet not one
> the other way.
>
>
"Dave Balderstone" wrote:
> I think I saw some of those in Florida... Armordillos?
SFWIW:
Goodyear Tire has/had a test track a few miles outside San Angelo, TX,
which I'm told is/was the sheep capital of the USA.
There was a 5 mile high speed oval for testing automotive tires and an
8 mile oval for life testing of truck tires.
They had left the brush in the infield of the 8 mile track which made
great habitant for rattlesnakes and the occasional armadillo.
Let me tell you driving at 55 MPH in the hot sun of San Angelo in July
can be downright miserable as well as boring as the devil.
The night shift was a little better, but not much.
(Spending a little time at the test track made you appreciate why
people wear cowboy boots in that part of the world.)
The rattlesnakes would come out of the infield and crawl out onto the
track to sun themselves which created an opportunity for the drivers
to relieve the boredom.
Driver would run over a snake, then stop and cut off the rattle, get
back in the truck and keep going until rest break, when he would grab
a hammer, some 16d nails and nail rattle(s) up on a 4x8 sheet of
plywood in the rest station.
During my visit, they had filled up 2-3 plywood sheets.
Once and a while an armadillo would come running out on the track.
The object was to hit the armadillo and not kill it, but simply to
knock it out of it's shell.
Makes life easier for the other predators as well as demonstrate the
driver's skill.
Amazing how resourceful the human animal can be.
Lew
"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote:
> Coon is a bit chewy and greasy. Most are made into stew or chili.
> So I am to understand from those who have been to a deer camp
> and that was what was in the pot for dinner. Lots of them
> are hunted and eaten around here.
When I was a kid a guy bought a couple of black and tans to hunt coon.
Was told he spent something like $5-600 for the pair.
(!950's money)
First time out, they rounded up a rabbit.
Guy shot them on the spot.
Lew
"Swingman" wrote
> Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
> as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
> begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
> leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared to
> be taking notes.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
>
> --
Don't take pictures. Put him to work! He should be able to do SOMETHING.
And you won't have pay him much either. <G>
In article <[email protected]>, Martin
H. Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> I know a coon dog trainer that makes functional dogs for a price.
Tell you what, a terrier makes a lovely fish. I could do that for you
now. Legs off, fins on, simple metal tube through the back of the head
so it could breathe, bits of gold paint... Make good?
<http://www.skepticfiles.org/en001/monty22.htm>
On Sep 28, 8:51=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cats were thought to be Satan's familiars.
They bloody well ARE, dagnabbit!!!
In article <[email protected]>, Swingman
<[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
The way the toes are splayed on that front foot is pretty cool. When I
was a kid I had a pet rat, so that little guy looks kinda cute to me.
We don't get possums here in Saskatchewan, they can't handle the
winter. Wimps.
In article <[email protected]>, krw
<[email protected]> wrote:
> We had possums in Vermont. The ones here in Alabama wear armor.
I think I saw some of those in Florida... Armordillos?
In article <[email protected]>, Lee Michaels
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote
>
> > Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
> > as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
> > begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
> > leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared to
> > be taking notes.
> >
> > http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
> > http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
> >
> > --
> Don't take pictures. Put him to work! He should be able to do SOMETHING.
> And you won't have pay him much either. <G>
PUSHSTICK!
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:10 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, krw
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We had possums in Vermont. The ones here in Alabama wear armor.
>
>I think I saw some of those in Florida... Armordillos?
Yep, just another species of road kill.
On Sep 29, 5:55=A0pm, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2009-09-29, HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Agreed. In my rendition, the rats carried infected fleas. In your
> > possibility, I guess the humans carried the infected fleas.
>
> Not too bright, are you.
Bubba is just up to his usual tricks of spreading half-truths &
misinformation about health issues.
If one bothers to read up on the black death or the plague, one
quickly finds out that the European Yersinia pestis epidemic probably
originated from rat fleas that spread to humans. However, it is not
only carried by fleas, but the infection also has pulmonary and blood
infection versions. The rapid spread in Europe was not only the flea
version, but also the pulmonary version where individuals could get
infected from droplets emitted from infected people coughing and
spitting.
Luigi
Stuart wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like
>> many think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host
>> most mammal viruses like rabies.
>
> Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped out
> 25% of the population of europe.
Uh, no. It was the fleas on the rats that carried the Bubonic Plague germ.
And there were a LOT of rats.
The rats multiplied, in large measure, because the people killed off the
cats. Cats were thought to be Satan's familiars.
On Sep 27, 4:35=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> Stuart wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > =A0 =A0-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
> >> think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mamma=
l
> >> viruses like rabies.
>
> > Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped out 2=
5%
> > of the population of europe.
>
> Glad to hear it. =A0What's your point?
What is the point of your gratuitous sarcasm? This is not a political
thread.
Had you bothered to look at Stuart's address, you would have seen it
end with "uk". Maybe, as a consequence, you might have realized that
he may not be entirely familiar with southern American fauna and
mistook the possum for a rat.
I think an apology is order.
Luigi
Lee Michaels <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote
>
> > Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced
> > himself as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around
> > for lunch, begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so
> > much as "by your leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything
> > closely and appeared to be taking notes.
> >
> > http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
> > http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
> >
> > --
> Don't take pictures. Put him to work! He should be able to do
> SOMETHING. And you won't have pay him much either. <G>
And you can claim a rebate for hiring a handicapped employee -- didn't you
notice his left eye is bad, he is half blind, no stereoscopic vision.
In article <[email protected]>,
-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
> think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mammal
> viruses like rabies.
Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped out 25%
of the population of europe.
In article
<[email protected]>,
Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not a rat, Stuart, but an American marsupial known as an opposum,
> supposedly a delicacy in the southern US.
OK. Sorry, I didn't recognise it and someone mentioned pet rats. I put two
and two together and made 5.
In article <[email protected]>,
HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
> Uh, no. It was the fleas on the rats that carried the Bubonic Plague
> germ. And there were a LOT of rats.
That is correct
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:43:40 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Swingman
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
Industrial spy.
>The way the toes are splayed on that front foot is pretty cool. When I
>was a kid I had a pet rat, so that little guy looks kinda cute to me.
My wife had a pet rat. They make quite good pets and a lot better
than some (hamsters and gerbils come to mind).
>We don't get possums here in Saskatchewan, they can't handle the
>winter. Wimps.
We had possums in Vermont. The ones here in Alabama wear armor. Oh,
wait. That's the woodchucks that are armored.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To prove to the woodchuck that it could be done.
On Sep 27, 5:04=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
> as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
> begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
> leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared
> to be taking notes.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpghttp://www.e-w=
oodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Should I ship you one of my shop blacksnakes?
On Oct 31, 12:34=A0am, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
> > Hehehe. =A0That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and I
> > cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF.
>
> Hmmmm, sure about that?
> Was the broom all rotted or something?
>
Could have been my ex's broom. It had a lot of (air) miles on it.
-MIKE- said:
>.... They're not aggressive either,
>hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
>open mouth is really all show and no go.
Unless they have young. then all bets are off.
DAMHIKT - experiences from childhood.
>Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
Are quite intelligent and can be tamed, but the rabies factor...
Greg G.
Like Mike, I'm a music person. I've never had 'em in my studio (in the
basement) but they've been in my shop which is a door away from the
basement.
Along with being a "muso", I'm a city dweller. Here in Baltimore, I value
possum, foxes, racoons, etc. If they are hanging around, the rats haven't
taken over. It's worth keeping in mind.
Ed
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> -MIKE- wrote:
>
>> They're very curious, when they're young like that.
>> We get them every spring, and they sure are cute.
>>
>> Even when they get older, they're not aggressive, like people think.
>> That defensive pose they strike, when cornered, looks pretty viscous
>> with those crazy teeth and all and the hissing.
>>
>> They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
>> think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mammal
>> viruses like rabies.
>>
>> Because they're almost blind when not in the dark, it's pretty easy to
>> catch them by just putting a box or crate right next to them. They'll
>> climb right inside, trying to escape the light.
>
> Many years ago, on a Sunday afternoon in the control room of a recording
> studio, I was attempting to lay down a bass track on a tune that just had
> to be finished that day. I was alone, there was no way to punch-in a 24
> track in those days without re-winding and starting over, and only one
> track was left open so I couldn't comp it. I'd already had half a dozen
> shots at it from the top and was finally in the pocket and grooving on the
> last chorus when I caught a movement out the corner of my eye.
>
> WTF? This was in a big city, no way in hell a curly haired, white, baby
> possum is going to walk into a recording studio, in broad daylight,
> downtown, in a big city, right?
>
> Like hell!
>
> Little shit walked right up to my tapping right foot, set himself down,
> looked up, and comfortably made himself an audience.
>
> But, there was also NO way in hell I was going to stop playing, even for
> Godzilla, with only 30 seconds left to go on the best take of the day!
>
> Only slight rattled, I managed to keep the groove, and while holding the
> last note long enough for the long fade the tune was supposed have, that
> little shit looked up at me as if say "Well, that wasn't all that bad,
> might wanna keep that one!", yawned, turned around and walked out.
>
> (He did show up about a week later at the adjoining club next door and
> scared the shit out of the girls behind the bar ... but that's another
> story.)
>
> That's twice now .... deja vu all over again.
>
> --
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> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Oct 31, 4:55=A0pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Oct 31, 12:34 am, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Larry Jaques wrote:
> >>> Hehehe. =A0That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and=
I
> >>> cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF.
> >> Hmmmm, sure about that?
> >> Was the broom all rotted or something?
>
> > Could have been my ex's broom. It had a lot of (air) miles on it.
>
> Ba-dop, PSSSSHHH!
>
I'll be here all week.
Try the veal.
Don't forget to tip your waitress.
I think it is legal to hunt coon with dogs - not for deer.
I know a coon dog trainer that makes functional dogs for a price.
Martin
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote:
>
>> Coon is a bit chewy and greasy. Most are made into stew or chili.
>> So I am to understand from those who have been to a deer camp
>> and that was what was in the pot for dinner. Lots of them
>> are hunted and eaten around here.
>
> When I was a kid a guy bought a couple of black and tans to hunt coon.
>
> Was told he spent something like $5-600 for the pair.
>
> (!950's money)
>
> First time out, they rounded up a rabbit.
>
> Guy shot them on the spot.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
They are all around here and are known to kill dogs if cornered.
Beloved and I were mowing and cleaning around the shop last week and
found a yearling in a ball. It was in a pallet under a large box I used
to paint upon. Both were burnt with the brush.
They are also fast on their feet.
Martin
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:34:40 -0500, the infamous -MIKE-
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> Hehehe. That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and I
>>> cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF.
>>>
>> Hmmmm, sure about that?
>> Was the broom all rotted or something?
>
> i don't recall that it was rotted. It was a cheap broom which came
> with a dustpan which had been left in the park. Those guys have really
> large and nasty teeth. Do NOT rile them! They could take your finger
> off in one quick chomp.
>
> http://www.aaanimalcontrol.com/blog/opossumteeth.jpg
>
> ---
> Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
> very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
> It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
> --John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:43:19 -0600, the infamous -MIKE-
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:34:40 -0500, the infamous -MIKE-
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> Hehehe. That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A
>>>>> friend and I
>>>>> cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN
>>>>> HALF.
>>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm, sure about that?
>>>> Was the broom all rotted or something?
>>>
>>> i don't recall that it was rotted. It was a cheap broom which
>>> came
>>> with a dustpan which had been left in the park. Those guys
>>> have really
>>> large and nasty teeth. Do NOT rile them! They could take your
>>> finger
>>> off in one quick chomp.
>>>
>>> http://www.aaanimalcontrol.com/blog/opossumteeth.jpg
>>>
>>
>>Yes, their teeth are comically frightening, but as wild animals
>>go they
>>actually have a relatively weak bite and certainly couldn't bite
>>clean
>>through a broom handle, nor adult finger.
>
> As I said, it was a smaller diameter than your average broom,
> prolly
> 5/8" of the softest SPF known to man. It was also a larger
> possum
> (larger than most house cats) and we had taunted it to no end.
> Believe
> what you will.
>
>
>>You also eluded to them possibly be rabid if seen during the
>>day, which
>
> No, I alluded to that. Animal Control people often warn folks
> about
> nocturnal animals if they're seen in the daylilght. I also said
> it
> was possible that someone ousted it from its resting place.
> That's
> called "advice", and you can take or leave it; Your choice.
>
>
>>is also very improbable. An opossum's body temperature is too
>>low to
>>host most viruses, including rabies.
>
> OK, I'll give you that one. Rabies is improbable in possums.
>
>
>>They're not aggressive either,
>>hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with
>>the big
>>open mouth is really all show and no go.
>
> Go kick/shove one a dozen times with your foot and then stick
> your
> finger in their mouth. It'll show you "go", son. Foo!
>
>
>>Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
>
> Are not to be tangled with, either.
>
> ---
> Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at
> midnight
> very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in
> our hands.
> It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
> --John Wayne (1907 -
> 1979)
Long, long ago, I was going out the driveway (wooded area) and a
tiny possum ran across in front of the pickup. It was small
enough that it probably was riding on its Momma hours earlier. It
was most likely weaned and off on its own first adventure. I
caught it and it went through all the possum antics: First, it
was so fierce that it threatened to rip my body to shreds. Then,
it was foaming at the mouth and obviously "too sick" for me to
pick up. Finally, it "died" right there and obviously I'd not
want to eat a dead possum: particularly one that had "died" of
being so "sick."
About that time, my daughter's school bus let her off in front of
the drive, so I handed her the "dead" baby possum and told her she
had a new pet. She took it to the house and gave it a bath,
combed and powdered it. That night, I asked her where her little
possum was and she said, "Daddy, I put it out in the back yard.
It was just too ugly to be a pet."
--
Nonny
Have you ever wondered if the bills
in your wallet were ever in a stripper's butt crack?
Have a nice day ..
Swingman wrote:
> Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
> as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
> begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
> leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared
> to be taking notes.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
>
Kinda risky on his part walkin' in on somebody from Louisiana, wasn't
it? :-)
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:43:19 -0600, the infamous -MIKE-
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:34:40 -0500, the infamous -MIKE-
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> Hehehe. That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and I
>>>> cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF.
>>>>
>>> Hmmmm, sure about that?
>>> Was the broom all rotted or something?
>>
>> i don't recall that it was rotted. It was a cheap broom which came
>> with a dustpan which had been left in the park. Those guys have really
>> large and nasty teeth. Do NOT rile them! They could take your finger
>> off in one quick chomp.
>>
>> http://www.aaanimalcontrol.com/blog/opossumteeth.jpg
>>
>
>Yes, their teeth are comically frightening, but as wild animals go they
>actually have a relatively weak bite and certainly couldn't bite clean
>through a broom handle, nor adult finger.
As I said, it was a smaller diameter than your average broom, prolly
5/8" of the softest SPF known to man. It was also a larger possum
(larger than most house cats) and we had taunted it to no end. Believe
what you will.
>You also eluded to them possibly be rabid if seen during the day, which
No, I alluded to that. Animal Control people often warn folks about
nocturnal animals if they're seen in the daylilght. I also said it
was possible that someone ousted it from its resting place. That's
called "advice", and you can take or leave it; Your choice.
>is also very improbable. An opossum's body temperature is too low to
>host most viruses, including rabies.
OK, I'll give you that one. Rabies is improbable in possums.
>They're not aggressive either,
>hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
>open mouth is really all show and no go.
Go kick/shove one a dozen times with your foot and then stick your
finger in their mouth. It'll show you "go", son. Foo!
>Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
Are not to be tangled with, either.
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
On Sep 27, 3:04=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
> as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
> begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
> leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared
> to be taking notes.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpghttp://www.e-w=
oodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
Any chance he has an inside line on a secret stash of lumber???
You mean that was not dinner? 8>)
Swingman wrote:
> Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
> as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
> begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
> leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared
> to be taking notes.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:34:40 -0500, the infamous -MIKE-
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> Hehehe. That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and I
>> cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF.
>>
>
>Hmmmm, sure about that?
>Was the broom all rotted or something?
i don't recall that it was rotted. It was a cheap broom which came
with a dustpan which had been left in the park. Those guys have really
large and nasty teeth. Do NOT rile them! They could take your finger
off in one quick chomp.
http://www.aaanimalcontrol.com/blog/opossumteeth.jpg
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
On Sep 27, 10:20=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> Stuart wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > =A0 =A0-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
> >> think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mamma=
l
> >> viruses like rabies.
>
> > Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped out 2=
5%
> > of the population of europe.
>
> There are some ladies in here who think I was too harsh on you in my
> previous reply, Stuart.
> Apparently, you forget a smiley face and people get their panties in a
> wad.
>
> Sorry about that.
>
/That/ was mature.
On Sep 27, 3:52=A0pm, Stuart <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> =A0 =A0-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
> > think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mammal
> > viruses like rabies.
>
> Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped out 25%
> of the population of europe.
Not a rat, Stuart, but an American marsupial known as an opposum,
supposedly a delicacy in the southern US.
Luigi
Swingman wrote:
> Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
> as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
> begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
> leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared
> to be taking notes.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
>
:-)
They're very curious, when they're young like that.
We get them every spring, and they sure are cute.
Even when they get older, they're not aggressive, like people think.
That defensive pose they strike, when cornered, looks pretty viscous
with those crazy teeth and all and the hissing.
They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mammal
viruses like rabies.
Because they're almost blind when not in the dark, it's pretty easy to
catch them by just putting a box or crate right next to them. They'll
climb right inside, trying to escape the light.
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In article <[email protected]>, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
>as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
>begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
>leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared
>to be taking notes.
>
>http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
>http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
>
Stew!
Swingman wrote:
> Many years ago, on a Sunday afternoon in the control room of a recording
> studio, I was attempting to lay down a bass track on a tune that just
> had to be finished that day. I was alone, there was no way to punch-in a
> 24 track in those days without re-winding and starting over, and only
> one track was left open so I couldn't comp it.
Fellow musoid... didn't know.
Shame you didn't have a digital work station, you could've looped the
section and let it record over and over, saving each take as you went.
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Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote
>
>> Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
>> as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
>> begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
>> leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared to
>> be taking notes.
>>
>> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
>> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
>>
>> --
> Don't take pictures. Put him to work! He should be able to do SOMETHING.
> And you won't have pay him much either. <G>
>
They do work. They eat about everything organic laying around. :-)
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Stuart wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
>> think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mammal
>> viruses like rabies.
>
> Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped out 25%
> of the population of europe.
>
Glad to hear it. What's your point?
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Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> On Sep 27, 4:35 pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Stuart wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
>>>> think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mammal
>>>> viruses like rabies.
>>> Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped out 25%
>>> of the population of europe.
>> Glad to hear it. What's your point?
>
> What is the point of your gratuitous sarcasm? This is not a political
> thread.
>
> Had you bothered to look at Stuart's address, you would have seen it
> end with "uk". Maybe, as a consequence, you might have realized that
> he may not be entirely familiar with southern American fauna and
> mistook the possum for a rat.
>
> I think an apology is order.
>
> Luigi
Get over it. He's a big boy, I think he can stick up for himself.
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Stuart wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
>> think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mammal
>> viruses like rabies.
>
> Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped out 25%
> of the population of europe.
>
There are some ladies in here who think I was too harsh on you in my
previous reply, Stuart.
Apparently, you forget a smiley face and people get their panties in a
wad.
Sorry about that.
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> Hehehe. That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and I
> cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF.
>
Hmmmm, sure about that?
Was the broom all rotted or something?
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Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 31, 12:34 am, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> Hehehe. That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and I
>>> cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF.
>> Hmmmm, sure about that?
>> Was the broom all rotted or something?
>>
> Could have been my ex's broom. It had a lot of (air) miles on it.
Ba-dop, PSSSSHHH!
Is this her:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtgsLnEl38
?
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:34:40 -0500, the infamous -MIKE-
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> Hehehe. That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and I
>>> cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF.
>>>
>> Hmmmm, sure about that?
>> Was the broom all rotted or something?
>
> i don't recall that it was rotted. It was a cheap broom which came
> with a dustpan which had been left in the park. Those guys have really
> large and nasty teeth. Do NOT rile them! They could take your finger
> off in one quick chomp.
>
> http://www.aaanimalcontrol.com/blog/opossumteeth.jpg
>
Yes, their teeth are comically frightening, but as wild animals go they
actually have a relatively weak bite and certainly couldn't bite clean
through a broom handle, nor adult finger.
You also eluded to them possibly be rabid if seen during the day, which
is also very improbable. An opossum's body temperature is too low to
host most viruses, including rabies. They're not aggressive either,
hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
open mouth is really all show and no go.
Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
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Swingman wrote:
> Greg G. wrote:
>> -MIKE- said:
>>
>>> .... They're not aggressive either,
>>> hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
>>> open mouth is really all show and no go.
>>
>> Unless they have young. then all bets are off.
>> DAMHIKT - experiences from childhood.
>>
>>> Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
>>
>> Are quite intelligent and can be tamed, but the rabies factor...
>
> Had a pet coon for about three years. Not something I would want to do
> again. Though cute while young, they get BIG and STRONG; will climb to
> the top of everything, including drapes, blinds, your head, etc; can
> open anything in the house, including the refrigerator; and you don't
> want to piss one off ... it's like living with a mean, nosy old woman.
How do they taste?
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> Swingman wrote:
>> Greg G. wrote:
>>> -MIKE- said:
>>>
>>>> .... They're not aggressive either,
>>>> hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
>>>> open mouth is really all show and no go.
>>>
>>> Unless they have young. then all bets are off.
>>> DAMHIKT - experiences from childhood.
>>>
>>>> Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
>>>
>>> Are quite intelligent and can be tamed, but the rabies factor...
>>
>> Had a pet coon for about three years. Not something I would want to do
>> again. Though cute while young, they get BIG and STRONG; will climb to
>> the top of everything, including drapes, blinds, your head, etc; can open
>> anything in the house, including the refrigerator; and you don't want to
>> piss one off ... it's like living with a mean, nosy old woman.
>
> How do they taste?
I don't know about nosy old women, raccoon is dark and gamey
with a very coarse texture, kinda like beaver.
basilisk
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Greg G. wrote:
>> -MIKE- said:
>>
>>> .... They're not aggressive either,
>>> hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
>>> open mouth is really all show and no go.
>>
>> Unless they have young. then all bets are off.
>> DAMHIKT - experiences from childhood.
>>
>>> Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
>>
>> Are quite intelligent and can be tamed, but the rabies factor...
>
> Had a pet coon for about three years. Not something I would want to do
> again. Though cute while young, they get BIG and STRONG; will climb to the
> top of everything, including drapes, blinds, your head, etc; can open
> anything in the house, including the refrigerator; and you don't want to
> piss one off ... it's like living with a mean, nosy old woman.
>
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:43:19 -0600, the infamous -MIKE-
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:34:40 -0500, the infamous -MIKE-
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> Hehehe. That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and I
>>>>> cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF.
>>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm, sure about that?
>>>> Was the broom all rotted or something?
>>> i don't recall that it was rotted. It was a cheap broom which came
>>> with a dustpan which had been left in the park. Those guys have really
>>> large and nasty teeth. Do NOT rile them! They could take your finger
>>> off in one quick chomp.
>>>
>>> http://www.aaanimalcontrol.com/blog/opossumteeth.jpg
>>>
>> Yes, their teeth are comically frightening, but as wild animals go they
>> actually have a relatively weak bite and certainly couldn't bite clean
>> through a broom handle, nor adult finger.
>
> As I said, it was a smaller diameter than your average broom, prolly
> 5/8" of the softest SPF known to man. It was also a larger possum
> (larger than most house cats) and we had taunted it to no end. Believe
> what you will.
>
In another post I was accused of changing the circumstances to fit my
story. :-)
>
>> You also eluded to them possibly be rabid if seen during the day, which
>
> No, I alluded to that. Animal Control people often warn folks about
> nocturnal animals if they're seen in the daylilght. I also said it
> was possible that someone ousted it from its resting place. That's
> called "advice", and you can take or leave it; Your choice.
>
Ooo, a typo.
I never said anything about that advice being good or bad.
>
>> is also very improbable. An opossum's body temperature is too low to
>> host most viruses, including rabies.
>
> OK, I'll give you that one. Rabies is improbable in possums.
>
You don't have to give me anything. It's a fact, not an opinion.
And since you're so into pointing out typos, we're talking about
opossums, not those little guys who live in Australia.
>
>> They're not aggressive either,
>> hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
>> open mouth is really all show and no go.
>
> Go kick/shove one a dozen times with your foot and then stick your
> finger in their mouth. It'll show you "go", son. Foo!
>
What does that prove? I'm not aggressive either, but if someone kicks
and shoves me a dozen times I might show some teeth.
When I think, "aggressive," I think of something looking for a fight,
something that comes at you before it runs away from you. Opossums are
quite the opposite.
And BTW, I have poked and prodded them with a stick... a broom handle,
in fact, in an attempt to get one off the porch. That attempt was almost
as stupid as sticking my finger in it's mouth. When I decided to use my
brain, I put a cat crate next to him, which he promptly climbed into for
easy transport back to the woods.
A buddy of mine used to just shine a light in their eyes and grab 'em by
the tail. I'm not that brave. I don't want to lose a finger. :-)
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Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
> They are all around here and are known to kill dogs if cornered.
>
Opossum?
Where's around here? Three Mile Island?
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Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
> East Texas - the south in general. Water and cover makes a
> happy habitat.
>
> Martin
>
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
>>> They are all around here and are known to kill dogs if cornered.
>>>
>>
>> Opossum?
>>
>> Where's around here? Three Mile Island?
>>
I know things are bigger in Texas, but I still don't believe you. :-)
It totally goes against their nature/instinct.
I've heard of many, many instances of dogs killing opossums, bet not one
the other way.
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Greg G. wrote:
> -MIKE- said:
>
>> .... They're not aggressive either,
>> hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
>> open mouth is really all show and no go.
>
> Unless they have young. then all bets are off.
> DAMHIKT - experiences from childhood.
>
>> Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
>
> Are quite intelligent and can be tamed, but the rabies factor...
Had a pet coon for about three years. Not something I would want to do
again. Though cute while young, they get BIG and STRONG; will climb to
the top of everything, including drapes, blinds, your head, etc; can
open anything in the house, including the refrigerator; and you don't
want to piss one off ... it's like living with a mean, nosy old woman.
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notbob wrote:
> On 2009-09-28, HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Stuart wrote:
>
>>> Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped
>>> out 25% of the population of europe.
>>
>> Uh, no. It was the fleas on the rats that carried the Bubonic Plague
>> germ. And there were a LOT of rats.
>
> Theories not fully accepted by all. Some experts dismiss the rat/flea
> theory because it doesn't fully support the incredibly rabid spread of
> the disease across Europe.
>
"The persecution of cats in Europe is often overlooked as a contributing
factor in the spread of plague. In years prior to the outbreak, cats had
been vilified and slain in mass, due to their growing popular association
with Satan and witches. Pope Gregory IX declared cats' association with the
devil in the early 1200s. The mass slaughter of cats preceding the arrival
of infected rats greatly reduced a potential predator of the rat, allowing
rat populations to flourish unnaturally. "
-MIKE- wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> Many years ago, on a Sunday afternoon in the control room of a
>> recording studio, I was attempting to lay down a bass track on a tune
>> that just had to be finished that day. I was alone, there was no way
>> to punch-in a 24 track in those days without re-winding and starting
>> over, and only one track was left open so I couldn't comp it.
>
> Fellow musoid... didn't know.
>
> Shame you didn't have a digital work station, you could've looped the
> section and let it record over and over, saving each take as you went.
My very first exposure to a digital recorder as an engineer in the late
70's was the Sony PCM-F10 ... that was cutting edge, high tech that only
the big boys got to play with. Then I personally bought the F1/VCR combo
and carried it around to various studios to mix to in the early 80's.
We thought we were hot shit with digital anything back in those days ...
and I still hate digital as much as I ever did. Give me a 2" 24 track,
smpte'd to a 16 trk 2" for drums and bass, running 30ips, and I'll
tickle your bottom with bass and kick like you haven't heard in 20 years!
I still play, but realized I'd lost the "golden ears" about 10 years ago
for studio work, although the last album I engineered/produced was about
three years ago ... I got tired of turning the control room monitors to
11 to answer the question "What was that (noise)?"
I really don't miss the pro studio life ... it was a crazy life, and a
helluva lot of fun, but gets old the older you get.
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:58:43 -0500, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Leon wrote:
>>> SUPPER!
>>
>> Hehe ... weathers not quite right yet for possum sauce piquant. Hit 98 in
>> shop this afternoon.
>
>
>
>Yeah but "that" Hot Sauce would make'em taste OK. It was about 98 in my
>shop today too along with a touch of humidity just over 97%. ;~)
>
Averaged about 85 in the shop today.. with the AC on most of the day.. about 106
outside..
mac
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Greg G. wrote:
> Swingman said:
>> Had a pet coon for about three years. Not something I would want to do
>> again. Though cute while young, they get BIG and STRONG; will climb to
>> the top of everything, including drapes, blinds, your head, etc; can
>> open anything in the house, including the refrigerator; and you don't
>> want to piss one off ... it's like living with a mean, nosy old woman.
>
> I sure wouldn't keep one in the house. Leave it in the wild, but
> they'll stop by and beg for (demand?) food if they "know you."
> They'll also enter any opening in your house for winter shelter, no
> matter how high or improbable...
This one would take any shiny object it could find, utensils, rings,
jewelery, etc, and anything you fed it, straight to the nearest toilet
and wash it off. We fed it the same dry dog food as the dogs, and it
would do the same with dog food, perched on the toilet bowl, always
looking away while it was washing the dog food, then looking back at its
now empty paws with a puzzled look on its face.
Played well with the dog and cat. Actually a very clean pet, never
failed to use the cat litter box in the garage and didn't need to be
trained to do so, but about the beginning of its third year got too
rambunctious to let into the house, so we took it to the farm and let it
loose, where we saw it periodically for a few years, then nevermore.
My oldest daughter, who now lives in England, uses stories of "Terri,
the coon" when growing up in the wilds of Texas, to entertain both hers
and the neighbors children.
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"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon wrote:
>> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>> SUPPER!
>>> Hehe ... weathers not quite right yet for possum sauce piquant. Hit 98
>>> in shop this afternoon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah but "that" Hot Sauce would make'em taste OK. It was about 98 in my
>> shop today too along with a touch of humidity just over 97%. ;~)
> 102 and 10% in the AZ desert.
And I know from experience that with that kind of humidity and temp it
feels like 70 to us from Houston. Last time my wife and I were in Moab the
temp was around 107 at noon. Mixed with the low humidity we found it
entertaining to visit the gift shops and the owners commenting how hot it
was. It was a delightful day for us.
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:15:48 -0500, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>SUPPER!
>
marSOUPial?
Regards,
Tom Watson
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Leon wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Leon wrote:
>>> SUPPER!
>> Hehe ... weathers not quite right yet for possum sauce piquant. Hit 98 in
>> shop this afternoon.
>
>
>
> Yeah but "that" Hot Sauce would make'em taste OK. It was about 98 in my
> shop today too along with a touch of humidity just over 97%. ;~)
>
>
102 and 10% in the AZ desert.
- Doug
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon wrote:
>> SUPPER!
>
> Hehe ... weathers not quite right yet for possum sauce piquant. Hit 98 in
> shop this afternoon.
Yeah but "that" Hot Sauce would make'em taste OK. It was about 98 in my
shop today too along with a touch of humidity just over 97%. ;~)
notbob wrote:
> On 2009-09-28, HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "The persecution of cats in Europe is often overlooked as a
>> contributing factor in the spread of plague. In years prior to the
>> outbreak, cats had been vilified and slain in mass, due to their
>> growing popular association with Satan and witches. Pope Gregory IX
>> declared cats' association with the devil in the early 1200s. The
>> mass slaughter of cats preceding the arrival of infected rats
>> greatly reduced a potential predator of the rat, allowing rat
>> populations to flourish unnaturally. "
>
> "Many modern researchers have argued that the disease was more likely
> to have been viral (that is, not bubonic plague), pointing to the
> absence of rats from some parts of Europe that were badly affected and
> to the conviction of people at the time that the disease was spread by
> direct human contact. According to the accounts of the time, the black
> death was extremely virulent, unlike the nineteenth and early
> twentieth century bubonic plague."
>
> So, we have different views, as I stated. I make no claim of the
> validity of one over the other, only that more than one theory exists.
>
Agreed. In my rendition, the rats carried infected fleas. In your
possibility, I guess the humans carried the infected fleas.
On 2009-09-27, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah but "that" Hot Sauce would make'em taste OK. It was about 98 in my
> shop today too......
It woulda been 98 in my shop, too. Mauser 98..... yum!
nb
On 2009-09-28, HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
> Stuart wrote:
>> Rats carry and spread 35 diseases. In the middle ages, they wiped out
>> 25% of the population of europe.
>
> Uh, no. It was the fleas on the rats that carried the Bubonic Plague germ.
> And there were a LOT of rats.
Theories not fully accepted by all. Some experts dismiss the rat/flea
theory because it doesn't fully support the incredibly rabid spread of
the disease across Europe.
nb
On 2009-09-28, HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
> "The persecution of cats in Europe is often overlooked as a contributing
> factor in the spread of plague. In years prior to the outbreak, cats had
> been vilified and slain in mass, due to their growing popular association
> with Satan and witches. Pope Gregory IX declared cats' association with the
> devil in the early 1200s. The mass slaughter of cats preceding the arrival
> of infected rats greatly reduced a potential predator of the rat, allowing
> rat populations to flourish unnaturally. "
"Many modern researchers have argued that the disease was more likely
to have been viral (that is, not bubonic plague), pointing to the
absence of rats from some parts of Europe that were badly affected and
to the conviction of people at the time that the disease was spread by
direct human contact. According to the accounts of the time, the black
death was extremely virulent, unlike the nineteenth and early
twentieth century bubonic plague."
So, we have different views, as I stated. I make no claim of the validity
of one over the other, only that more than one theory exists.
nb
On 2009-09-29, HeyBub <[email protected]> wrote:
> Agreed. In my rendition, the rats carried infected fleas. In your
> possibility, I guess the humans carried the infected fleas.
Not too bright, are you.
nb
Swingman said:
>Greg G. wrote:
>> -MIKE- said:
>>
>>> .... They're not aggressive either,
>>> hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
>>> open mouth is really all show and no go.
>>
>> Unless they have young. then all bets are off.
>> DAMHIKT - experiences from childhood.
>>
>>> Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
>>
>> Are quite intelligent and can be tamed, but the rabies factor...
>
>Had a pet coon for about three years. Not something I would want to do
>again. Though cute while young, they get BIG and STRONG; will climb to
>the top of everything, including drapes, blinds, your head, etc; can
>open anything in the house, including the refrigerator; and you don't
>want to piss one off ... it's like living with a mean, nosy old woman.
I sure wouldn't keep one in the house. Leave it in the wild, but
they'll stop by and beg for (demand?) food if they "know you."
They'll also enter any opening in your house for winter shelter, no
matter how high or improbable...
Greg G.
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:37:47 -0600, "Martin H. Eastburn"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>And who knows if you have a yearling that got left behind and the
>sow, the nasty one, got away.
>
>Just don't get one cornered and have it come out and bite you in the
>eyes or snout. Then it is the neck before it runs off.
>
>Martin
>
>-MIKE- wrote:
>> Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
>>> East Texas - the south in general. Water and cover makes a
>>> happy habitat.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
>>>>> They are all around here and are known to kill dogs if cornered.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Opossum?
>>>>
>>>> Where's around here? Three Mile Island?
>>>>
>>
>> I know things are bigger in Texas, but I still don't believe you. :-)
>>
>> It totally goes against their nature/instinct.
>>
>> I've heard of many, many instances of dogs killing opossums, bet not one
>> the other way.
>>
>>
I've seen them put up a pretty good fight up here in Ontario -
perhaps they never learned from the Mommy how to "play possum".
Raise as much ruckus with the neighbour's dogs as a small coon.
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:04:01 -0500, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
>as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
>begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
>leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared
>to be taking notes.
>
>http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
>http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
Hehehe. That's one little guy you don't want to rile. A friend and I
cornered one at a park and watched it bite a broom handle IN HALF. Dem
funny lookin' critters is downright lethal, ah reckon.
I wonder who threw him out of his home in the daylight like that.
They're usually quite nocturnal. Nocturnal creatures who come out in
the daylight are usually either dis-homed or rabid. Caution!
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:33:03 -0800, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote:
>
>> Coon is a bit chewy and greasy. Most are made into stew or chili.
>> So I am to understand from those who have been to a deer camp
>> and that was what was in the pot for dinner. Lots of them
>> are hunted and eaten around here.
>
>When I was a kid a guy bought a couple of black and tans to hunt coon.
>
>Was told he spent something like $5-600 for the pair.
>
>(!950's money)
>
>First time out, they rounded up a rabbit.
>
>Guy shot them on the spot.
Someone smarter might have shown up at the seller's door with rifle in
hand to return the dogs for the $2,000 he spent on 'em. ;)
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Coon is a bit chewy and greasy. Most are made into stew or chili.
So I am to understand from those who have been to a deer camp
and that was what was in the pot for dinner. Lots of them
are hunted and eaten around here.
Squirrel and Possum as well.
Martin
basilisk wrote:
> "Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Swingman wrote:
>>> Greg G. wrote:
>>>> -MIKE- said:
>>>>
>>>>> .... They're not aggressive either,
>>>>> hence the saying "playing opossum." That hissing they do with the big
>>>>> open mouth is really all show and no go.
>>>> Unless they have young. then all bets are off.
>>>> DAMHIKT - experiences from childhood.
>>>>
>>>>> Raccoons, on the other hand.... :-)
>>>> Are quite intelligent and can be tamed, but the rabies factor...
>>> Had a pet coon for about three years. Not something I would want to do
>>> again. Though cute while young, they get BIG and STRONG; will climb to
>>> the top of everything, including drapes, blinds, your head, etc; can open
>>> anything in the house, including the refrigerator; and you don't want to
>>> piss one off ... it's like living with a mean, nosy old woman.
>> How do they taste?
>
> I don't know about nosy old women, raccoon is dark and gamey
> with a very coarse texture, kinda like beaver.
>
> basilisk
>
>
SUPPER!
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dropped by right after breakfast, walked right up and introduced himself
> as I was ripping stock for an appliance garage. Hung around for lunch,
> begged part of my ham sandwich, then left with out so much as "by your
> leave". Didn't lift a hand, but watched everything closely and appeared to
> be taking notes.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00104-20090927-1045.jpg
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/IMG00106-20090927-1046.jpg
>
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> KarlC@ (the obvious)
-MIKE- wrote:
> They're very curious, when they're young like that.
> We get them every spring, and they sure are cute.
>
> Even when they get older, they're not aggressive, like people think.
> That defensive pose they strike, when cornered, looks pretty viscous
> with those crazy teeth and all and the hissing.
>
> They also are not disease-ridden and dangerous to your pets, like many
> think. Their body temperatures are actually too low to host most mammal
> viruses like rabies.
>
> Because they're almost blind when not in the dark, it's pretty easy to
> catch them by just putting a box or crate right next to them. They'll
> climb right inside, trying to escape the light.
Many years ago, on a Sunday afternoon in the control room of a recording
studio, I was attempting to lay down a bass track on a tune that just
had to be finished that day. I was alone, there was no way to punch-in a
24 track in those days without re-winding and starting over, and only
one track was left open so I couldn't comp it. I'd already had half a
dozen shots at it from the top and was finally in the pocket and
grooving on the last chorus when I caught a movement out the corner of
my eye.
WTF? This was in a big city, no way in hell a curly haired, white, baby
possum is going to walk into a recording studio, in broad daylight,
downtown, in a big city, right?
Like hell!
Little shit walked right up to my tapping right foot, set himself down,
looked up, and comfortably made himself an audience.
But, there was also NO way in hell I was going to stop playing, even for
Godzilla, with only 30 seconds left to go on the best take of the day!
Only slight rattled, I managed to keep the groove, and while holding the
last note long enough for the long fade the tune was supposed have, that
little shit looked up at me as if say "Well, that wasn't all that bad,
might wanna keep that one!", yawned, turned around and walked out.
(He did show up about a week later at the adjoining club next door and
scared the shit out of the girls behind the bar ... but that's another
story.)
That's twice now .... deja vu all over again.
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