I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them from
checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or finish
that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
Pete
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"The Pistoleer" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like
> to jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of
> the sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit
> them from checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood
> choice and/or finish that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a
> natural wood finish.
I have the same problem and have use Jatoba, aka Brazilian cherry with
great success. IPE, aka Ironwood, is another great choice if you can find
it. Jatoba is probably more available, though.
For non-wet areas I usually use Duraseal, which is basically just a tung
oil/long oil varnish mix that doesn't build on the surface. Just wipe it
on and then hit it with some #1 steel wool after about 30 mins or so. Poly
might be a good choice if you're concerned about rain from an open window,
though dogs will scratch it a bit. My dogs slobber all over the Jatoba
floors and it doesn't seem to cause any problems with just Duraseal, so
that's probably what I'd use.
Matt
In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Didja know dogs can dig through particle board?
My brother had a shepherd cross that dug through two plaster & lathe
walls.
djb
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ipe will do it. purpleheart too though that may stand out more then you want.
cocobolo (G) real ironwood too though it is spendy but very lice looking. there
are a ton of tropicals that will hold up to the job. but remember the finish is
only as strong as the wood. some plexiglass on the spot may be a better choice.
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The Pistoleer wrote:
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
I'd agree with JS about the ironwood, but if you hav a connection out in
Guam, have them send you some Ifit. Nice grain and color and VERY
hard. It doesn't float and you'll burn up a lot of saw blades, but the
dogs won't bother it.
Dave in Fairfax
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Someone else mentioned Ironwood, which is also known as Hop Hornbeam.
Hickory or white oak are probably the best other common hardwoods.
Y
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:08:05 -0600, "The Pistoleer"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
>jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
>sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them from
>checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or finish
>that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>
>Pete
>http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
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>
Silvan wrote:
> I have three dogs,
Your choice, or the family? <g> I grew up on a ranch in western South Dakota
and we had lots of dogs, but they were all "outside dogs." They were very
handy for pointing out when rattlesnakes, skunks and other undesireables
were around. But they were always outside the house, whether it was 103 F
or -30 F.
-- Mark
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
I know this is not wood, but our house has marble window sills. It
looks good and seems like it would solve your problem, unless you have
dogs with really, really sharp claws. :-)
I believe the reason marble was used in our house was to prevent sun
damage that would occur with wood.
Mark & Juanita writes:
>
> I know this is not wood, but our house has marble window sills. It
>looks good and seems like it would solve your problem, unless you have
>dogs with really, really sharp claws. :-)
>
> I believe the reason marble was used in our house was to prevent sun
>damage that would occur with wood.
Don't know about the sun damage, but when we started looking at houses in this
area, many of the places had marble window sills. In fact, so does the house we
bought. It never even gets listed as a feature, but it sure makes the slider in
the bathroom shower a lot more practical!
Charlie Self
"Man is a reasoning rather than a reasonable animal."
Alexander Hamilton
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Mark & Juanita writes:
>
> >
> > I know this is not wood, but our house has marble window sills. It
> >looks good and seems like it would solve your problem, unless you have
> >dogs with really, really sharp claws. :-)
> >
> > I believe the reason marble was used in our house was to prevent sun
> >damage that would occur with wood.
>
> Don't know about the sun damage, but when we started looking at houses in this
> area, many of the places had marble window sills. In fact, so does the house we
> bought. It never even gets listed as a feature, but it sure makes the slider in
> the bathroom shower a lot more practical!
>
> Charlie Self
My Scary Sharp setup is on a marble window sill removed from my
mother's house during a remodel. Every house I ever lived in around
Parkersburg had marble window sills - even the very inexpensive house
dad built in 1960. I thought it was the norm. The first house I bought
in Pittsburgh- built in the early to mid '60's had marble sills. My
current house built in the '80's doesn't. Regional thing???
Dave Hall
>
> "Man is a reasoning rather than a reasonable animal."
> Alexander Hamilton
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
Dave Hall asks:
>My Scary Sharp setup is on a marble window sill removed from my
>mother's house during a remodel. Every house I ever lived in around
>Parkersburg had marble window sills - even the very inexpensive house
>dad built in 1960. I thought it was the norm. The first house I bought
>in Pittsburgh- built in the early to mid '60's had marble sills. My
>current house built in the '80's doesn't. Regional thing?
I think so. As I say, it's not remarkable enough to even get listed by the RE
agent. We looked at several, including a couple of once low end '60s houses,
and this place, built in '15 but not palatial at all...great oak staircase,
though, which is what sold my wife originally. I think some of it may come down
from all the great Victorians in the area. I don't recall ever living anywhere
where so many 1860 to 1910 homes were still in great shape.
And I've never seen a single marble sill elsewhere, though I've seen plenty of
marble mantels and similar decorations.
Charlie Self
"Man is a reasoning rather than a reasonable animal."
Alexander Hamilton
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:53 +0000, Mark & Juanita wrote:
> I wonder if that might be the case. I don't recall any homes in the
> Dallas area having marble sills and was suprised to find that feature in
> our home in Tucson (I'm not sure that is all that common here, I don't
> recall what other houses we looked at had). Thinking upon my remark
> regarding potential sun damage -- that's probably true in my area, in
> areas like yours I suspect they are more to prevent having to deal with
> moisture damage when a window is left open during a rainstorm.
Our downsizing house in Casa Grande has the "cultured marble" window sills
and it was built in '94. It might be more of an "era" thing rather than
an "area" thing. They sure would have made sense in the US Pacific
Northwest as all the metal framed windows sweated like crazy (built up ice
bergs) in a freeze. Ain't seen one of those in the last ten years in AZ.
-Doug
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Mark & Juanita writes:
> >
> > >
> > > I know this is not wood, but our house has marble window sills. It
> > >looks good and seems like it would solve your problem, unless you have
> > >dogs with really, really sharp claws. :-)
> > >
> > > I believe the reason marble was used in our house was to prevent sun
> > >damage that would occur with wood.
> >
> > Don't know about the sun damage, but when we started looking at houses in this
> > area, many of the places had marble window sills. In fact, so does the house we
> > bought. It never even gets listed as a feature, but it sure makes the slider in
> > the bathroom shower a lot more practical!
> >
> > Charlie Self
>
> My Scary Sharp setup is on a marble window sill removed from my
> mother's house during a remodel. Every house I ever lived in around
> Parkersburg had marble window sills - even the very inexpensive house
> dad built in 1960. I thought it was the norm. The first house I bought
> in Pittsburgh- built in the early to mid '60's had marble sills. My
> current house built in the '80's doesn't. Regional thing???
>
> Dave Hall
>
I wonder if that might be the case. I don't recall any homes in the
Dallas area having marble sills and was suprised to find that feature in
our home in Tucson (I'm not sure that is all that common here, I don't
recall what other houses we looked at had). Thinking upon my remark
regarding potential sun damage -- that's probably true in my area, in
areas like yours I suspect they are more to prevent having to deal with
moisture damage when a window is left open during a rainstorm.
> >
> > "Man is a reasoning rather than a reasonable animal."
> > Alexander Hamilton
> >
> > http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
>
Marble sills are good choices (but these can chip.) Wood damages too
easily, even with an epoxy finish.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:08:05 -0600, "The Pistoleer"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
>jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
>sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them from
>checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or finish
>that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>
>Pete
>http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
>__________________________________________________________________
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>
Come one people - isnt it obvious - Dogwood ;)
<BG>
"The Pistoleer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them
from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or
finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>
> Pete
> http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
> __________________________________________________________________
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>
>
Sales call, ya think? Tom
>Rob V" [email protected] wrote:
>Come one people - isnt it obvious - Dogwood ;)
>
><BG>
>"The Pistoleer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
>> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
>> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them
>from
>> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or
>finish
>> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>>
>> Pete
>> http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
>> __________________________________________________________________
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>>
>>
Someday, it'll all be over....
The Pistoleer wrote:
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
Stainless steel with a wood-look photoprinted finish ought to do the
job. Oh, you said natural. Sorry :-)
Silvan wrote:
> Didja know dogs can dig through particle board?
No, not by personal experience. I have a deplorable lack of curosity on
finding out. <g> Drywall, linoleum, chair legs, rocking chairs, ... I'll
just take your word for it.
> (They're all diggers too. I had to dig down about two feet under the
> fence gate and fill it up with concrete. Fortunately they have never
> been that determined to dig anywhere else, or I would have to lay one
> hell of a lot of concrete. :)
"They"?? How many? (Any why? <g>)
-- Mark
"The Pistoleer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them
from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or
finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>
> Pete
> http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
> __________________________________________________________________
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>
>
They got this new wood.........some call it Granite
Brazilian cherry... tough as nails and even worse to work with. DAMHIKT.
"The Pistoleer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them
from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or
finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>
> Pete
> http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
> __________________________________________________________________
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>
>
Ironwood is a straight answer. The stuff is difficult to burn!
George M. Kazaka wrote:
> Well Pete did you actually think you would get a straight answer to that
> question on this group,
>
>
> "The Pistoleer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
>>jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
>>sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them
>
> from
>
>>checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or
>
> finish
>
>>that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>>
>>Pete
>>http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
>>__________________________________________________________________
>>A-Zoom snap-caps, Bore-Stores cases, Kleen-Bore gun care products
>>Pachmayr grips & pads, Targets, HKS speedloaders, FREE classifieds
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Maybe one of those epoxy finishes? I haven't actually used one, but they
sound durable and pretty easy to use.
The Pistoleer wrote:
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>
> Pete
> http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
> __________________________________________________________________
> A-Zoom snap-caps, Bore-Stores cases, Kleen-Bore gun care products
> Pachmayr grips & pads, Targets, HKS speedloaders, FREE classifieds
>
>
>
The Pistoleer <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
Black locust should do it. When it's dry it will dull a chain
saw in a few cuts.
Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:08:05 -0600, "The Pistoleer"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>What is a good wood choice and/or finish
>that can stand up to their claws?
Most hardwoods will stand up to this, with the right finish. Tropicals
will be OK, as would oak, maple or beech.
I've had this problem a few times. My solution is Rustin's Floorcoat,
an acid-catalysed formaldehyde that's sold for stripped wooden floors.
They also sell a similar finish as "Bartop" and there's a similar
product called "Liquid Plastic". These finishes are mixed before use
(they're _not_ epoxies) and smell awful during use, but they cure and
lose the smell within a few hours. Abotu 3 coats should do it, and
pot-life of a mixture is adequate to do this in one mixing, if you
close the tin. The finish is water-white.
--
Smert' spamionam
Mark Jerde wrote:
>> wood choice and/or finish that can stand up to their claws? I prefer
>> a natural wood finish.
Stands up to their claws, and natural wood finish? You have a *puppy* that
weighs 72 pounds?
It ain't gonna happen.
> Sounds to me similar to a backer board on a jig... Can you come up with a
> replaceable face solution?
>
> BTW, our dog's claws have scratched:
> - The patio sliding glass door. :-(
Yup. Badly. It's an old one too, with a wooden frame. I'm going to have
to replace that RSN.
> - Windows and windowsills.
Yup. Plus they've destroyed umpty window treatments.
> - The wall by the back door (hole now covered with an unattractive
> piece
> of painted hardboard)
Fortunately not. You have me beat on that one.
> - In his "den" under the coffee table -- the carpet, carpet pad and
> linoleum -- all the way to the concrete!
When my wife's long-lost step brother came to visit, she didn't want to risk
offending him in any way. One of my dogs was freaking out at having
strangers in the house, so SWMBO made me shut him in our bedroom.
Bubby didn't like that. He tried to dig out. He damn near made it. So
much for putting off replacing the bedroom carpeting for last. :(
Didja know dogs can dig through particle board?
(They're all diggers too. I had to dig down about two feet under the fence
gate and fill it up with concrete. Fortunately they have never been that
determined to dig anywhere else, or I would have to lay one hell of a lot
of concrete. :)
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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The Pistoleer wrote:
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like
> to jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess
> of the sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to
> prohibit them from checking out sounds from outside. What is a good
> wood choice and/or finish that can stand up to their claws? I prefer
> a natural wood finish.
Sounds to me similar to a backer board on a jig... Can you come up with a
replaceable face solution?
BTW, our dog's claws have scratched:
- The patio sliding glass door. :-(
- Windows and windowsills.
- The wall by the back door (hole now covered with an unattractive piece
of painted hardboard)
- In his "den" under the coffee table -- the carpet, carpet pad and
linoleum -- all the way to the concrete!
He's housebroken in two senses of the word. ;-)
-- Mark
Ironwood.
"The Pistoleer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them
from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or
finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>
> Pete
> http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
> __________________________________________________________________
> A-Zoom snap-caps, Bore-Stores cases, Kleen-Bore gun care products
> Pachmayr grips & pads, Targets, HKS speedloaders, FREE classifieds
>
>
>
Mark Jerde wrote:
>> Didja know dogs can dig through particle board?
>
> No, not by personal experience. I have a deplorable lack of curosity on
> finding out. <g> Drywall, linoleum, chair legs, rocking chairs, ...
> I'll just take your word for it.
Just look at Mom's house for examples. She's been blessed with most of the
really chewy dogs. All her furniture looks terrible.
>> been that determined to dig anywhere else, or I would have to lay one
>> hell of a lot of concrete. :)
>
> "They"?? How many? (Any why? <g>)
Actually, it's Mom's fence. My yard isn't fenced in, but my dogs visit next
door a lot, so I have to maintain the fence. (I mow her yard too. Cheap
daycare, believe me!!!)
I have three dogs, Mom has six. That's a lot of dogs. Ranging from a 185
pound black lab to a little, spritely Jack Russel terrier/coon hound mix.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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Petrified wood. I hear it's difficult to cut though. :)
"The Pistoleer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them
from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or
finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>
> Pete
> http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
> __________________________________________________________________
> A-Zoom snap-caps, Bore-Stores cases, Kleen-Bore gun care products
> Pachmayr grips & pads, Targets, HKS speedloaders, FREE classifieds
>
>
>
Well Pete did you actually think you would get a straight answer to that
question on this group,
"The Pistoleer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a couple of dogs, 62 lb 5 yr old and a 72 lb puppy. They like to
> jump up on the window sills to see out. Their claws make a mess of the
> sills. Part of their job is security, so I don't want to prohibit them
from
> checking out sounds from outside. What is a good wood choice and/or
finish
> that can stand up to their claws? I prefer a natural wood finish.
>
> Pete
> http://www.Pistoleer.com - Retail & Wholesale (PH/FX 618-288-4588)
> __________________________________________________________________
> A-Zoom snap-caps, Bore-Stores cases, Kleen-Bore gun care products
> Pachmayr grips & pads, Targets, HKS speedloaders, FREE classifieds
>
>
>