Faceshield

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:58:40 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Drew
Lawson) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>
> "DGDevin" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>
>>"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> If the American people ever allow private banks to control
>>> the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by
>>> deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up
>>> around them will deprive the people of all property until
>>> their children wake up homeless on the continent their
>>> Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions
>>> are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...
>>> The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
>>> restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
>>> --Thomas Jefferson
>>
>>
>>Somebody said it, but it wasn't Jefferson.
>>
>>http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/Private_Banks_%28Quotation%29
>>
>
>He didn't specify *which* Thomas Jefferson.

<g> I got that from the first of the Money Masters videos Swingy
suggested a couple weeks ago, and I'm certainly not the first to
misattribute this statement to Jefferson. <shrug>


--
If the American people ever allow private banks to control
the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by
deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up
around them will deprive the people of all property until
their children wake up homeless on the continent their
Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions
are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...
The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
-- misattributed to Thomas Jefferson

On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:18:23 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

>Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
>woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit
>in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them
>at The Woodworking Shows.
>
>I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against
>kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this
>mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>
>
>Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
>
>
>As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
>something like this might help ease my pain. : )
>
>Bill

Read the customer revies closely.

I shopped around for faceshields like those. I read quite a few
customer reviews and one thing came up over and over: for one of the
models that enclosed the face (forget which one) the plastic stinks to
the point that the users couldn't wear them. It might dissipate with
time.
-Zz

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> If the American people ever allow private banks to control
> the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by
> deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up
> around them will deprive the people of all property until
> their children wake up homeless on the continent their
> Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions
> are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...
> The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
> restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
> --Thomas Jefferson


Somebody said it, but it wasn't Jefferson.

http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/Private_Banks_%28Quotation%29

On Feb 10, 7:46=A0pm, Doug White <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bill <[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
> > woodworking =A0(to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will
> > fit in my dishwasher... ; ) =A0? =A0 =A0Seems like I saw a few people
> > wearing them at The Woodworking Shows.
>
> > I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against
> > kickback, etc. =A0One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this
> > mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>
> > Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat
> > Visor
>
> >http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=3Ds9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?p=
f
> > _rd_m=3DATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=3Dcenter-3&pf_rd_r=3D0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0=
&pf_rd
> > _t=3D101&pf_rd_p=3D470938811&pf_rd_i=3D507846
>
> > As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
> > something like this might help ease my pain. : )
>
> Two comments: =A0
>
> 1) =A0Get something with easily replaceable shields, and get several
> spares. =A0That way when the change the design in a few years you don't
> find out the new shields won't fit. =A0DAMHIKT
>
> 2) =A0I used to buy Uvex safety glasses with the anti-fog coating. =A0The
> coating works great for a while, and then it gets cloudy. =A0Eventually,
> it's worse than looking through fog. =A0At least for safety glasses, they
> expect you to trash them before the coating gets too bad. =A0They may hav=
e
> improved the coating since I had problems, but I would never buy a Uvex
> product with that coating on it. =A0Instead, I get glasses with the scrat=
ch
> resistant coating, and they last a LOT longer. =A0However, fogging is goi=
ng
> to be much more of an issue with a full face shield like the one shown. =
=A0
> I use much simpler ones like others have linked to, and they are open
> enough that fog usually isn't an issue.
>
> Doug White- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Maybe you could wear one of those chainsaw helmet/earmuff/faceshield
units - no fogging problem with the mesh. And some even have a
plastic area over the eyes. We have a couple full plastic shields in
the shop that get used pretty regularly - especially when wire-
brushing.

That's what happens when you allow cloning experiments on human beings.

Bush was another.



"Drew Lawson" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
He didn't specify *which* Thomas Jefferson.

--
Drew Lawson | "Look! A big distracting thing!"
| -- Crow T. Robot.
|

Leon asks:
>> Are you always an ass or just in this instance?
----------------------------
"George W Frost" answers:
> This is a special one, just for you
------------------------------

Leon, As my mother often reminded me, "Son, if you are going to mess
with
chicken crap, you are bound to get some on you."

Lew

Jack Stein wrote:

> You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill:

> I wouldn't consider one of those unless it had a built in CO2
> detector.

"Stuart" wrote:

> You work in an area where you are likely to encounter high levels of
> CO2?
------------------------------
Naw, it gets used to detect Jack's hot air.

BTW, a trip to WW Grainger and less than $15, problem solved.

Lew

In article <[email protected]>,
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> > http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe
> >

> Let he who has not bumped the top of his head in the shop laugh first...
> For the time begin, I'll need to stick with more value-oriented
> products. I think even thinking about safety like this once in a while
> is good practice. And there may be one person reading this who will
> identify a way they can further protect something that is difficult to
> fix or replace.

Powered respirators are definitely a must, especially when using power
tools.

I can remember when I'd do a bit of sanding and come out of the garage
coughing and spluttering dreadfully. Now I can stand in a cloud of dust so
thick I can hardly see the other end of the garage (yes, OK, I am
exaggerating a bit <g>) with no problem.

The cool airflow down across the front of your face makes life quite
comfortable and prevents any fogging.

One of my daughters works in the "respiratory investigation" department of
a large hospital and what she has to say about the effects of dust in the
lungs and the quality of life (lack of) it results in, would scare the
s**t out of anybody. One of my other daughters is in the radiotherapy
department of a different hospital planning treatment for cancer patients.

Believe me, a proper powered respirator is dirt cheap for the benefits it
brings, especially in places like the U.S. where you have to find the
money for your own medical treatment.

--
Stuart Winsor

Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011

In article <[email protected]>,
Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:

> > You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill:

> > http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe

> I wouldn't consider one of those unless it had a built in CO2 detector.

You work in an area where you are likely to encounter high levels of CO2?

--
Stuart Winsor

Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011

In article <[email protected]>,
Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> The more my next steak farts, the more CO2 smothers the earth. When you
> guys stop wringing your hands over getting stabbed with kickback,
> cutting your hands off without a SawStop, a blade guard, a riving knife,
> losing your hearing w/o giant ear muffs and all that rot, you can wring
> your hands over CO2, cow farts and global warming causing huge snow
> drifts blocking your shop doors...

> After you succumb to some of AlGores CO2 poisoning, at least know I
> warned you.

Ah, a troll.

Nasty things do happen to real people you know:

http://www.craftkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/woodworking/54785/How-not-to-use-a-router

Posted in this group not long ago.

I personally would prefer to retain the full use of my hands, fingers,
arms, toes, ears, eyes and all other body parts, in as full a working
order as natural ageing allows, till such time as I depart this life -
hopefully by "natural causes".

--
Stuart Winsor

Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011

On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:18:23 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

>Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
>woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit
>in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them
>at The Woodworking Shows.
>
>I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against
>kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this
>mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>
>
>Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
>
>
>As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
>something like this might help ease my pain. : )

You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill:

http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe

--
If the American people ever allow private banks to control
the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by
deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up
around them will deprive the people of all property until
their children wake up homeless on the continent their
Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions
are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...
The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
--Thomas Jefferson

"George W Frost" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> Are you always an ass or just in this instance?
>
> This is a special one, just for you
>

It will be a shame if you ever have anything worth while to say as I will
miss it.

On 2/6/2011 7:18 PM, Bill wrote:
> Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
> woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit
> in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at
> The Woodworking Shows.

I do have one handy in the shop in case the task at hand waves a huge
red flag, which is not often enough.

I should use it more ... although safety glasses are used often, the
face shield, a light one, is simply too awkward and hot in this climate
for it to become the habit it should be.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Relying on online resources to do any meaningful "research", particularly
> that extrapolated from a time when capturing the spoken word verbatim, in
> most any manner, was a difficult, if not impossible, task, is nothing but
> a fools game.

There is nothing wrong with online research provided you are cautious and
thorough. Many people stop at one source, particularly if it tells them
what they want to hear, and that's risky. But it was risky when the library
was the only place to do research too; two history books might give very
different versions of the same events. However it is true that the internet
gives a worldwide voice to fools and liars, any clown with net access can
post nonsense that somebody else will believe.

"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>> Why don't you get your wife to do the job she was designed to do?,
>> do the dishes and then you can stand behind her watching her every move
>> And all this without having to buy a dishwasher and climb inside to check
>> on its progress


> Are you always an ass or just in this instance?

Bet you already know the answer to that.

"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "George W Frost" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
>>> woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit
>>> in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them
>>> at The Woodworking Shows.
>>>
>>> I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against
>>> kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this
>>> mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>>>
>>>
>>> Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat
>>> Visor
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
>>>
>>>
>>> As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
>>> something like this might help ease my pain. : )
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> Fucked if I know why you would want to use one of these in a dishwasher
>> All the dishwashers I have seen, have been too small for anyone to fit
>> through the little door, whether they are wearing a face shield or not.
>> Are you going to climb in to check whether the washer is doing a proper
>> job?
>> Why don't you get your wife to do the job she was designed to do?,
>> do the dishes and then you can stand behind her watching her every move
>> And all this without having to buy a dishwasher and climb inside to check
>> on its progress
>
>
> Are you always an ass or just in this instance?

This is a special one, just for you

"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:37:28 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Leon asks:
>>>> Are you always an ass or just in this instance?
>>----------------------------
>>"George W Frost" answers:
>>> This is a special one, just for you
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Leon, As my mother often reminded me, "Son, if you are going to mess
>>with
>>chicken crap, you are bound to get some on you."
>
> The quickest, nicest answer is to twit-filter early and often.



Already a done deal.

Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
> woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will
> fit in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people
> wearing them at The Woodworking Shows.
>
> I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against
> kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this
> mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>
>
> Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat
> Visor
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?pf
> _rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd
> _t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
>
>
> As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
> something like this might help ease my pain. : )

Two comments:

1) Get something with easily replaceable shields, and get several
spares. That way when the change the design in a few years you don't
find out the new shields won't fit. DAMHIKT

2) I used to buy Uvex safety glasses with the anti-fog coating. The
coating works great for a while, and then it gets cloudy. Eventually,
it's worse than looking through fog. At least for safety glasses, they
expect you to trash them before the coating gets too bad. They may have
improved the coating since I had problems, but I would never buy a Uvex
product with that coating on it. Instead, I get glasses with the scratch
resistant coating, and they last a LOT longer. However, fogging is going
to be much more of an issue with a full face shield like the one shown.
I use much simpler ones like others have linked to, and they are open
enough that fog usually isn't an issue.

Doug White

On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:37:28 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Leon asks:
>>> Are you always an ass or just in this instance?
>----------------------------
>"George W Frost" answers:
>> This is a special one, just for you
>------------------------------
>
>Leon, As my mother often reminded me, "Son, if you are going to mess
>with
>chicken crap, you are bound to get some on you."

The quickest, nicest answer is to twit-filter early and often.

--
If the American people ever allow private banks to control
the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by
deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up
around them will deprive the people of all property until
their children wake up homeless on the continent their
Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions
are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...
The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
--Thomas Jefferson

"George W Frost" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
>> woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit
>> in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them
>> at The Woodworking Shows.
>>
>> I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback,
>> etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking
>> out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>>
>>
>> Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat
>> Visor
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
>>
>>
>> As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
>> something like this might help ease my pain. : )
>>
>> Bill
>
> Fucked if I know why you would want to use one of these in a dishwasher
> All the dishwashers I have seen, have been too small for anyone to fit
> through the little door, whether they are wearing a face shield or not.
> Are you going to climb in to check whether the washer is doing a proper
> job?
> Why don't you get your wife to do the job she was designed to do?,
> do the dishes and then you can stand behind her watching her every move
> And all this without having to buy a dishwasher and climb inside to check
> on its progress


Are you always an ass or just in this instance?

On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:38:06 -0500, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 2/07/11 10:21 AM, Bill wrote:
>> On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe
>>>
>>
>> Let he who has not bumped the top of his head in the shop laugh first...
>> For the time begin, I'll need to stick with more value-oriented
>> products. I think even thinking about safety like this once in a while
>> is good practice. And there may be one person reading this who will
>> identify a way they can further protect something that is difficult to
>> fix or replace.
>>
>Throw caution to the wind, go with one of these:
>http://tinyurl.com/659yj9n

Like, Heavy, man, heavy.

Peace!


--
If the American people ever allow private banks to control
the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by
deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up
around them will deprive the people of all property until
their children wake up homeless on the continent their
Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions
are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...
The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
--Thomas Jefferson

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:48:22 -0500, Jack Stein <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The more my next steak farts, the more CO2 smothers the earth. When you
>guys stop wringing your hands over getting stabbed with kickback,
>cutting your hands off without a SawStop, a blade guard, a riving knife,
>losing your hearing w/o giant ear muffs and all that rot, you can wring
>your hands over CO2, cow farts and global warming causing huge snow
>drifts blocking your shop doors...
>
>After you succumb to some of AlGores CO2 poisoning, at least know I
>warned you.

Jack the complaint bureau has closed due to the economy.

Mark

George W Frost wrote:
> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
>> woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in
>> my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at
>> The Woodworking Shows.
>>
>> I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback,
>> etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking
>> out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>>
>>
>> Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat
>> Visor
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
>>
>>
>> As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
>> something like this might help ease my pain. : )
>>
>> Bill
>
> Fucked if I know why you would want to use one of these in a dishwasher
> All the dishwashers I have seen, have been too small for anyone to fit
> through the little door, whether they are wearing a face shield or not.

Well, I figured it would keep the soap out of my eyes when I am cleaning
up in the morning.

In article <[email protected]>, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
>woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit
>in my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them
>at The Woodworking Shows.

Absolutely. I haven't worn goggles in the shop for about fifteen years now;
instead, I use one of these:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_74556-98-90028-80025_0__?productId=3082689

Replacement windows are available at Do-It-Best hardware stores for about half
the cost of the complete unit. In Indianapolis, Bill, that's Sullivan
Hardware.
>
>I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against
>kickback, etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this
>mouth, knocking out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.

If you do a Google Groups search on this newsgroup for "faceshield" you'll
find numerous posts where I've said "there are other things on your face worth
protecting besides your eyes."

And they come in handy even when you wouldn't necessarily expect it -- who'd a
thunk that a *bandsaw* would eject a small cutoff backward at high speed? A
few years ago, I was cutting a notch out of the corner of a piece of red oak
when suddenly PING! the waste piece (about a 1cm cube) bounced off the
faceshield right in front of my nose.

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
> woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in
> my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at
> The Woodworking Shows.
>
> I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback,
> etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking
> out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>
>
> Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat
> Visor
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
>
>
> As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
> something like this might help ease my pain. : )
>
> Bill


I wear one, but not as spendy as that. Mine is like this:

http://www.amazon.com/AO-Safety-90028-Professional-Faceshield/dp/B000BO6RIE/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1297063657&sr=1-3

and it has saved my noggin a couple times. I have a couple of them so that I
can have a visitor wear one. All my hits have been off the lathe, but I wear
it for any power tool use.

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Brian's Mum

On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:

> You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe
>

Let he who has not bumped the top of his head in the shop laugh first...
For the time begin, I'll need to stick with more value-oriented
products. I think even thinking about safety like this once in a while
is good practice. And there may be one person reading this who will
identify a way they can further protect something that is difficult to
fix or replace.

Bill




> --
> If the American people ever allow private banks to control
> the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by
> deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up
> around them will deprive the people of all property until
> their children wake up homeless on the continent their
> Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions
> are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...
> The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
> restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
> --Thomas Jefferson

On 2/07/11 10:21 AM, Bill wrote:
> On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe
>>
>
> Let he who has not bumped the top of his head in the shop laugh first...
> For the time begin, I'll need to stick with more value-oriented
> products. I think even thinking about safety like this once in a while
> is good practice. And there may be one person reading this who will
> identify a way they can further protect something that is difficult to
> fix or replace.
>
Throw caution to the wind, go with one of these:
http://tinyurl.com/659yj9n

--
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The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:

>> Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor

> You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill:

> http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe

I wouldn't consider one of those unless it had a built in CO2 detector.

--
Jack
You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out!
http://jbstein.com

In article <[email protected]>
"DGDevin" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
>"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> If the American people ever allow private banks to control
>> the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by
>> deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up
>> around them will deprive the people of all property until
>> their children wake up homeless on the continent their
>> Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions
>> are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...
>> The issuing power should be taken from the banks and
>> restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
>> --Thomas Jefferson
>
>
>Somebody said it, but it wasn't Jefferson.
>
>http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/Private_Banks_%28Quotation%29
>

He didn't specify *which* Thomas Jefferson.

--
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| -- Crow T. Robot.
|

On 2/9/2011 4:18 PM, Stuart wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> Jack Stein<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill:
>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe
>
>> I wouldn't consider one of those unless it had a built in CO2 detector.
>
> You work in an area where you are likely to encounter high levels of CO2?

The more my next steak farts, the more CO2 smothers the earth. When you
guys stop wringing your hands over getting stabbed with kickback,
cutting your hands off without a SawStop, a blade guard, a riving knife,
losing your hearing w/o giant ear muffs and all that rot, you can wring
your hands over CO2, cow farts and global warming causing huge snow
drifts blocking your shop doors...

After you succumb to some of AlGores CO2 poisoning, at least know I
warned you.
--
Jack
You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out!
http://jbstein.com

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
> woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in
> my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at
> The Woodworking Shows.
>
> I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback,
> etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking
> out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>
>
> Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat
> Visor
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
>
>
> As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
> something like this might help ease my pain. : )
>
> Bill

Fucked if I know why you would want to use one of these in a dishwasher
All the dishwashers I have seen, have been too small for anyone to fit
through the little door, whether they are wearing a face shield or not.
Are you going to climb in to check whether the washer is doing a proper job?
Why don't you get your wife to do the job she was designed to do?,
do the dishes and then you can stand behind her watching her every move
And all this without having to buy a dishwasher and climb inside to check on
its progress

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> <g> I got that from the first of the Money Masters videos Swingy
> suggested a couple weeks ago, and I'm certainly not the first to
> misattribute this statement to Jefferson. <shrug>

It sounded suspicious to me from the get-go ("inflation" and "deflation" as
economic terms), so I took a moment to do a search. There is a legitimate
Jefferson quotation on a similar theme¹ but somebody has taken the time to
jazz it up and pass if off as the real thing. There is an issue of
rhetorical credibility here; whoever first created (actually forged) the
quotation is not someone I'd trust from then on, I'd always be wondering
what else they're not being honest about. These days accepting almost any
quotation one sees online at face value seems to be a risky business.

¹ "And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more
dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to
be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity
on a large scale."

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 09:51:29 -0500, Jack Stein <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 2/7/2011 9:31 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>>> Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat Visor
>
>> You should at least go with a supplied air mask, Bill:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/49vmdl4 or the trendier http://tinyurl.com/4fdv3oe
>
>I wouldn't consider one of those unless it had a built in CO2 detector.

Huh? You're kidding, right?

Both work on ambient room air that you'd be breathing anyway.

--
Education is when you read the fine print.
Experience is what you get if you don't.
-- Pete Seeger

On 2/11/2011 3:15 PM, DGDevin wrote:

> be wondering what else they're not being honest about. These days
> accepting almost any quotation one sees online at face value seems to be
> a risky business.

"'The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

Remains a valid argument despite the misattribution to Edmund Burke.

The written word overrides all, but only as long as it remains intact.

Relying on online resources to do any meaningful "research",
particularly that extrapolated from a time when capturing the spoken
word verbatim, in most any manner, was a difficult, if not impossible,
task, is nothing but a fools game.

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"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyone using a full face faceshield like this for any non-lathe
> woodworking (to satisfy Lobby, I'm looking for something that will fit in
> my dishwasher... ; ) ? Seems like I saw a few people wearing them at
> The Woodworking Shows.
>
> I guess there's almost no limit to what you can protect against kickback,
> etc. One reviewer who had a lathe throw a log into this mouth, knocking
> out a few teeth, swears now by the unit below.
>
>
> Uvex S8510 Bionic Black Matte Faceshield with Clear Anti-fog Hardcoat
> Visor
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013G86FG/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0AJR1600W9PVP591FYH0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
>
>
> As long as I'm throwing perfectly good money at dishwashers, buying
> something like this might help ease my pain. : )
>
> Bill

Ki9nda like Swingman indicated, depending on the climate it might be way too
uncomfortable to wear all the time. I don't like any thing fogging up in
fromt of me and or cupped around my face.

BUT the one you are looking at certainly is not cost prohibitive and you
will not be out much in the event you find it too restrictive or
uncomfortable of full time use and or have available for those times that
comfort is trumped by safety. I'd go for it.

HOWEVER concerning cleaning in the dishwasher, that might not be a good
idea. Most dishwasher detergents are abrasive and could cloud the shield.
And the heat could melt it if not dishwasher safe. ;~)