AG

Art Greenberg

28/02/2006 9:38 AM

Layout on Dark Wood?

Group,

I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do. A
marking knife is out, as most of the marks will be away from the cuts. I've
used blue painter's tape previously (lay down the tape, pencil on that). But
I'm wondering if there's a better method? Something that won't interfere with
say, a router sliding over the wood? One thing that comes to mind is plain
adhesive backed shelf paper to cover the entire piece, but I'm not sure how
easily that would release afterwards. Has anyone seen or used a method that
worked well?

Thanks.

--
Art


This topic has 13 replies

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 2:18 PM

Odinn wrote:
>
> Silver Sharpie works for me (and for Norm it looks like).
>

Mythbusters, too!

gr

"gadgetman"

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 8:08 AM

You can try a white or other color water color pencil available at any
art or craft supply store. You can sharpen to a relatively sharp point
and removes fairly easily.

MBR

JB

John B

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 12:44 PM

Art Greenberg wrote:
> Group,
>
> I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
> marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do. A
> marking knife is out, as most of the marks will be away from the cuts. I've
> used blue painter's tape previously (lay down the tape, pencil on that). But
> I'm wondering if there's a better method? Something that won't interfere with
> say, a router sliding over the wood? One thing that comes to mind is plain
> adhesive backed shelf paper to cover the entire piece, but I'm not sure how
> easily that would release afterwards. Has anyone seen or used a method that
> worked well?
>
> Thanks.
>
I use white chinagraph pencils
John

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 7:14 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Art
Greenberg <[email protected]> wrote:

> I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
> marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do. A
> marking knife is out, as most of the marks will be away from the cuts. I've
> used blue painter's tape previously (lay down the tape, pencil on that). But
> I'm wondering if there's a better method? Something that won't interfere with
> say, a router sliding over the wood? One thing that comes to mind is plain
> adhesive backed shelf paper to cover the entire piece, but I'm not sure how
> easily that would release afterwards. Has anyone seen or used a method that
> worked well?

Pop into a local fabric store and ask about pencils for marking cut
lines on cloth...

--
Talking about art is like dancing about architecture - Frank Zappa

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 11:11 AM


"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:foXMf.2626$v%[email protected]...
> Art Greenberg wrote:
>> Group,
>>
>> I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
>> marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do.
>
> White or yellow "leaded" pencils will, as will light crayons.

This what I use on metal.

I constantly sharpen them to get the thin line.

They should be OK for wood too.


Tw

"Tina"

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 7:22 AM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
>
> >I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
> >marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do.
>
> You can get pencils of almost any color "lead" at an art supply store, and
> probably at places like Office Depot too. Maybe even the school supplies
> section at Wal-Mart. I imagine that a white or yellow mark would show up
> pretty easily. The one thing I'd be worried about is removing the marks
> afterward. Test on scrap!
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Put some tape on it and mark on the tape...so ya can see the lines

Tina...............(delurk mode)

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 11:46 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:

>I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
>marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do.

You can get pencils of almost any color "lead" at an art supply store, and
probably at places like Office Depot too. Maybe even the school supplies
section at Wal-Mart. I imagine that a white or yellow mark would show up
pretty easily. The one thing I'd be worried about is removing the marks
afterward. Test on scrap!

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

AG

Art Greenberg

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 11:30 AM

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:59:39 GMT, stoutman wrote:
> > I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge

[... snip ...]

> White chalk?

Maybe. Is it possible to get relatively fine lines with that? How durable
would the markings be - good enough for a few passes with the router?

--
Art

>

JG

Joe Gorman

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 8:58 AM

Art Greenberg wrote:
> Group,
>
> I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
> marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do. A
> marking knife is out, as most of the marks will be away from the cuts. I've
> used blue painter's tape previously (lay down the tape, pencil on that). But
> I'm wondering if there's a better method? Something that won't interfere with
> say, a router sliding over the wood? One thing that comes to mind is plain
> adhesive backed shelf paper to cover the entire piece, but I'm not sure how
> easily that would release afterwards. Has anyone seen or used a method that
> worked well?
>
> Thanks.
>
http://www.michaels.com/art/online/displayProductPage?productNum=gc0196
Several of the sets show white, they may be available individually.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/product/34687/MAPTW/REG/885 has individual
ones at a higher price.
Joe

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 12:31 PM

Art Greenberg wrote:
> Group,
>
> I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
> marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do.

White or yellow "leaded" pencils will, as will light crayons.

DS

"Doug Schultz"

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 5:05 PM

Seamstress chalk
comes in a few colors.
nice and hard like a pencil too.

Doug

"Art Greenberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Group,
>
> I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
> marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do. A
> marking knife is out, as most of the marks will be away from the cuts.
> I've
> used blue painter's tape previously (lay down the tape, pencil on that).
> But
> I'm wondering if there's a better method? Something that won't interfere
> with
> say, a router sliding over the wood? One thing that comes to mind is plain
> adhesive backed shelf paper to cover the entire piece, but I'm not sure
> how
> easily that would release afterwards. Has anyone seen or used a method
> that
> worked well?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Art
>

s@

"stoutman" <.@.>

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 10:59 AM

"Art Greenberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Group,
>
> I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
> marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do. A
> marking knife is out, as most of the marks will be away from the cuts.
> I've
> used blue painter's tape previously (lay down the tape, pencil on that).
> But
> I'm wondering if there's a better method? Something that won't interfere
> with
> say, a router sliding over the wood? One thing that comes to mind is plain
> adhesive backed shelf paper to cover the entire piece, but I'm not sure
> how
> easily that would release afterwards. Has anyone seen or used a method
> that
> worked well?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Art
>

White chalk?

--
Stoutman
http://www.garagewoodworks.com
(Featuring a NEW look)

Ob

Odinn

in reply to Art Greenberg on 28/02/2006 9:38 AM

28/02/2006 7:32 AM

On 2/28/2006 4:38 AM Art Greenberg mumbled something about the following:
> Group,
>
> I need to lay out reference marks for placing templates on wenge, and for
> marking the ends of stopped router cuts. Obviously, a pencil won't do. A
> marking knife is out, as most of the marks will be away from the cuts. I've
> used blue painter's tape previously (lay down the tape, pencil on that). But
> I'm wondering if there's a better method? Something that won't interfere with
> say, a router sliding over the wood? One thing that comes to mind is plain
> adhesive backed shelf paper to cover the entire piece, but I'm not sure how
> easily that would release afterwards. Has anyone seen or used a method that
> worked well?
>
> Thanks.
>

Silver Sharpie works for me (and for Norm it looks like).

--
Odinn


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