LJ

Larry Jaques

23/12/2004 8:15 AM

Help in Google (or other) Searching

I received a SitePoint Tech Times (techie newsletter)
today and it mentioned a new beta on Google which uses
auto-complete: Google Suggest Beta

For those of you who are Search Challenged, this might
help. As you type in what you want to search for, it
also searches its list of searches and shows that list to
you. As any good searcher understands, knowing what words
to use can make or break a search. If you're stymied with
the first search, look for results which somewhat match
your goal and pick up new adjectives to use in your next
search. Refine it as you go. Enjoy!

http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1

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ll

in reply to Larry Jaques on 23/12/2004 8:15 AM

23/12/2004 10:35 AM


Larry Jaques wrote:
> I received a SitePoint Tech Times (techie newsletter)
> today and it mentioned a new beta on Google which uses
> auto-complete: Google Suggest Beta
>
> For those of you who are Search Challenged, this might
> help. As you type in what you want to search for, it
> also searches its list of searches and shows that list to
> you. As any good searcher understands, knowing what words
> to use can make or break a search. If you're stymied with
> the first search, look for results which somewhat match
> your goal and pick up new adjectives to use in your next
> search. Refine it as you go. Enjoy!

I really don't comprehend how people can have problems searching. For
example, for the millionth time someone asked about what to use on a
cutting board... so I typed in

what do I use to finish a cutting board

3rd link down gave the answer... What problem do you people really
have?

tv

"tall_corn"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 23/12/2004 8:15 AM

23/12/2004 2:02 PM

Question, when setting up meta links for my ebay store or web site for
the Kreg Jig do I use :
Kreg pocket hole jig K2000 Pro Pack PP to cover any possible
combination that people might type in the search engine?
Pocket hole comes up 1,810,000 times
Pocket hole jig comes up 57,700 times
Kreg Pocket hole jig comes up 17,600 times
Kreg 2000pp comes up 12,300 times
Is it better to be narrow or all inclusive?
Scott
Scott

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Larry Jaques on 23/12/2004 8:15 AM

23/12/2004 5:53 PM

[email protected] wrote:

> 3rd link down gave the answer... What problem do you people really
> have?

Dunno, it isn't always that easy. I can usually find just what I want. To
such an extent that I rarely bother to bookmark anything. But I get
stumped from time to time. It's all about speaking the right incantation,
and sometimes what you're looking for is incanted in terms you just don't
think of.

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JJ

in reply to Silvan on 23/12/2004 5:53 PM

23/12/2004 6:54 PM

Thu, Dec 23, 2004, 5:53pm [email protected] (Silvan) says:
Dunno, it isn't always that easy. I can usually find just what I want.
To such an extent that I rarely bother to bookmark anything. But I get
stumped from time to time. It's all about speaking the right
incantation, and sometimes what you're looking for is incanted in terms
you just don't think of.

Yep, finding stuff is easy. Sometimes finding what you want isn't.
Once spent about 3 months, on and off, mostly on, looking for some
specific types of toy plans. Couldn't find zip. Then in one of my
searches I found a word used I hadn't tried before. Hell, I didn't
think it even came close to relating; but put it in the search phrase,
and viola, started getting info immediately. In 3 days had all the info
I could use, and them some.

I was looking for marble roll toy info. The type that's like a
tower, you drop marbles down, and they roll back and forth, and all.
Tried every combination of words I could think of - roll, toy, marble,
you name it. Then found "race", I think it was, mentioned. Whatever
the word was, it probably never would have occurred to me on my own.
But, stuck it in, and that was the key. Sometimes that's the really
hard part, finding that one key word.



JOAT
WYGIWYGAINGW:
What You Get Is What You're Given And It's No Good Whining.

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 23/12/2004 5:53 PM

24/12/2004 9:27 PM

J T wrote:

> the word was, it probably never would have occurred to me on my own.
> But, stuck it in, and that was the key. Sometimes that's the really
> hard part, finding that one key word.

Yup. Exactly. It's really all about figuring out what other people call
those things you're thinking of. :)

--
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http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Silvan on 23/12/2004 5:53 PM

25/12/2004 6:46 PM

Silvan wrote:
> J T wrote:
>
>> the word was, it probably never would have occurred to me on my own.
>> But, stuck it in, and that was the key. Sometimes that's the really
>> hard part, finding that one key word.
>
> Yup. Exactly. It's really all about figuring out what other people
> call those things you're thinking of. :)

I recall a story about how hard this is to do in other languages & cultures.
An American somewhere in the middle east couldn't find the number of a
rental car agency until he asked the operator to look for "We Try Harder."
;-)

-- Mark

Wx

"Woodcrafter"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 23/12/2004 8:15 AM

24/12/2004 9:58 AM


"tall_corn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Question, when setting up meta links for my ebay store or web site for
> the Kreg Jig do I use :
> Kreg pocket hole jig K2000 Pro Pack PP to cover any possible
> combination that people might type in the search engine?
> Pocket hole comes up 1,810,000 times
> Pocket hole jig comes up 57,700 times
> Kreg Pocket hole jig comes up 17,600 times
> Kreg 2000pp comes up 12,300 times
> Is it better to be narrow or all inclusive?
> Scott

Apparently google ignores meta links/tags now anyway and only looks at the
actual visible content of your website??
Or so I heard. I think there is something on google's search engine
information pages to say something similar. Not sure about other search
engines.

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"BillyBob"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 23/12/2004 8:15 AM

25/12/2004 7:49 PM


"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1
>

At first, I didn't think this tool provided any value. Then I realized that
it was presenting me with lists of validated searches that matched ALL the
words I selected. This is a time saver, when trying to find the right
combination of words that might yield useful results.

Bob

jj

jo4hn

in reply to Larry Jaques on 23/12/2004 8:15 AM

23/12/2004 6:07 PM

Larry Jaques wrote:

> I received a SitePoint Tech Times (techie newsletter)
> today and it mentioned a new beta on Google which uses
> auto-complete: Google Suggest Beta
>
> For those of you who are Search Challenged, this might
> help. As you type in what you want to search for, it
> also searches its list of searches and shows that list to
> you. As any good searcher understands, knowing what words
> to use can make or break a search. If you're stymied with
> the first search, look for results which somewhat match
> your goal and pick up new adjectives to use in your next
> search. Refine it as you go. Enjoy!
>
> http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1
>

Well worth a look, folks. Jo4hnnie likes it.
j4

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 23/12/2004 8:15 AM

24/12/2004 2:35 AM

[email protected] wrote:

> 3rd link down gave the answer... What problem do you people really
> have?

Try searching for help writing help files! <eg> Fortunately HTML Help has
taken over in WinDoze. I miss the WinHelp abomination less than a kickback
on my TS.

-- Mark

VB

"Vic Baron"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 23/12/2004 8:15 AM

23/12/2004 7:27 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Larry Jaques wrote:
> > I received a SitePoint Tech Times (techie newsletter)
> > today and it mentioned a new beta on Google which uses
> > auto-complete: Google Suggest Beta
> >
> > For those of you who are Search Challenged, this might
> > help. As you type in what you want to search for, it
> > also searches its list of searches and shows that list to
> > you. As any good searcher understands, knowing what words
> > to use can make or break a search. If you're stymied with
> > the first search, look for results which somewhat match
> > your goal and pick up new adjectives to use in your next
> > search. Refine it as you go. Enjoy!
>
> I really don't comprehend how people can have problems searching. For
> example, for the millionth time someone asked about what to use on a
> cutting board... so I typed in
>
> what do I use to finish a cutting board
>
> 3rd link down gave the answer... What problem do you people really
> have?
>

kant spehl kuting bored?

Merry Christmas hohoho

Bb

"BillyBob"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 23/12/2004 8:15 AM

25/12/2004 12:06 PM


"Woodcrafter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Apparently google ignores meta links/tags now anyway and only looks at the
> actual visible content of your website??
> Or so I heard. I think there is something on google's search engine
> information pages to say something similar. Not sure about other search
> engines.

They also accept $$$$ to make your site more visible.

Bob


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