Do you know the high pitched sound a radio makes when it's not quite
tuned to a station? The high pitched noise that, in its annoyance,
takes you directly to the source to twiddle the knobs?
Well here's the bad news. If you don't protect your ears, you'll have
that sound in your ears all the time, and with an auto control that
turns the volume up when you're stressed and when you're in a quiet
place, and at nights when you are trying to go to sleep.
The condition is called tinnitus. There is no cure. The good news,
it's preventable!
Please, you younger indestructable blokes, wear hearing protection,
and more importantly, particularly the older members, make sure you
have the right equipment to allow that little guy, who loves to help
grandpa, to safely work in your shop.
I used to think that eye damage would be terrible, "if I was blind I
could not check out the girls!" Having tinnitus is worse. A bit like
standing in a cesspool up to your chin and hoping no one makes waves.
Glenn
www.metalbashatorium.com
In Jus Voco Spurius
I was going to ask what SWMBO means... but I did a quick google of it.
Let me know when they become available, because hopefully the HWMBO
version won't be far behind. ;D
chem
Silvan wrote:
> B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
>
>
>>The Bose units ARE expensive, but for everyday use and quality, it may
>>be worth it if they're legal.
>
>
> I really need to find out. I have a vague notion that canal plugs might be
> legal, but headphone types are not.
>
> I'm continuing to look into it. I've been wanting to play with some noise
> cancellation goodies ever since I first read about the technology.
>
> Now if somebody would come up with SWMBO cancelling headphones...
>
Glenn Cramond writes:
>I used to think that eye damage would be terrible, "if I was blind I
>could not check out the girls!" Having tinnitus is worse. A bit like
>standing in a cesspool up to your chin and hoping no one makes waves.
>
>
And knowing they will. Hearing protection is good.
Trouble is, some of your young blokes are already blasting their eardrums as
badly, possibly worse, with the loudness of the music they listen to.
Charlie Self
Facts are stupid things.
Ronald Reagan
I may suggest that you may want to check with the labor and industries
or workers compensation boards in the state where you live or work.
I had a 44% hearing loss. It was determined that it was not medical. The
state will more than likely ask for every employer from 16 as was my
case, Social security can provide this info.
The state will try to get the employers ins to pay a prorate share .
Anyway the state just provided two in the ear hearing aids ($3,100 )
saw the bill .
they also provide maintenance for life and batteries for life. I use a
number 13 and get a box of 40 went I need them . Just call the hearing
aid center who fitted me and they mail another box to you.
Then after all of that they make a $ settlement with you.
All of this is in washington state. Some other states may have different
plans.
I mention all of this so that if someone has really lost hearing from
their work and it can be medically checked the you are entitled to get
some help.
And if this will help just one person then it is well worth the effort
to try and get all the help you can. This is not welfare. This is
insurance that the employer paid and you paid .
When you cannot hear the words spoken to you, it is a bummer. after a
short time you get PO. Get help ask your doctor or check with a real
hearing aid store. They were the ones who told me about this.
My ears ring too.....I just wish I could answer them ;o)
Cheers!
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No, I just asked Korotkoff.
Phil
todd wrote:
> "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I'm deaf over 4000Hz where jets wind up myself -can't sue Uncle Sam, of
>>course - but I'm also the only one who can get a good blood pressure by
>>auscultation in an ambulance full of high-pitched road noise!
>
>
> Just checking...did anyone but me have to look up "auscultation"?
>
> todd
>
>
On 15 Jul 2003 14:07:48 -0700, [email protected] (Glenn Cramond) wrote:
>The condition is called tinnitus. There is no cure. The good news,
>it's preventable!
Well, it isn't always preventable. Exposure to loud noises is thought to
be one way to get it, or at least aggravate it, but there are other causes.
Severe ear infection as a child is one common cause, as are high blood
pressure, diabetes, etc.
I've suffered with it most of my life. My hearing range still tests very
good, even in the higher registers, but that damn ringing never stops.
I usually mentally tune it out and don't even think about it, but since
starting reading this thread, it has been in the front of my consciousness,
and annoying as hell.
The most popular belief about tinnitus is that it is due to damaged
auditory nerves. But I recently read a report where researchers placed
a sensitive microphone in the ear canal of a sufferer and actually
recorded the sound. Their theory is that it is a mechanical problem in
the ear which actually generates the noise. If they're right, it may
be possible some day to surgically repair the problem and get rid
of the ringing.
Gary
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:06:46 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r . <Keep it
in the [email protected]> pixelated:
>On 15 Jul 2003 14:07:48 -0700, [email protected] (Glenn Cramond)
>wrote:
>>
>>Please, you younger indestructable blokes, wear hearing protection,
>>and more importantly, particularly the older members, make sure you
>>have the right equipment to allow that little guy, who loves to help
>>grandpa, to safely work in your shop.
>
>Nowadays, a good set of 25dB or better ear muffs is less than $20, so
>there's no reason not to have them on hand. Our washer and dryer is
>in "my" shop, so I keep an extra set for my wife when she needs to be
>there while the tools are on.
Earplugs are a buck or two, decent (albeit plastic) earmuffs
are $3.97 at HFT, and the combo really cuts down the noise
if you need it to. HFT had a sale on their safety equipment
a year ago so I picked up a couple more sets of muffs, goggles,
and dust masks for $3 a pop. I now keep one set of muffs in the
mower shed.
>An extra set is also very good to have when a helper is required.
>I've always offered them to helpers, and when I only had one set, _I_
>had to suffer!
Toilet paper makes fine earplugs in a pinch.
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"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm deaf over 4000Hz where jets wind up myself -can't sue Uncle Sam, of
> course - but I'm also the only one who can get a good blood pressure by
> auscultation in an ambulance full of high-pitched road noise!
Just checking...did anyone but me have to look up "auscultation"?
todd
Gary Coffman wrote:
> The most popular belief about tinnitus is that it is due to damaged
> auditory nerves. But I recently read a report where researchers placed
> a sensitive microphone in the ear canal of a sufferer and actually
> recorded the sound. Their theory is that it is a mechanical problem in
> the ear which actually generates the noise.
Be careful--there's way more than one forme of tinnitus. I had "pulsitile
tinnitus" in both ears (worse in the right--the left ringing tended to mask the
pulse) to the point where I only needed a watch to get my pulse. After a bunch
of tests, the closest guess was otosclerosis, where the stirrup bone (stapes
for the latinophiles) is frozen to the middle ear by a spongy to hard bone
mass. An interesting bit of microsurgery can clean things up, and I had to
take my pulse the normal way.
Turns out the pulsitile tinnitus was a combination of a really good bone-to ear
connectiuon, and the fact that external sounds were getting grounded out.
Can't remember if the pulse came back the two times my left ear prothesis
failed--if you are allergic to stainless--actually nickle--*tell the docs and
make them research it*. Most people think that nickle allergy is strictly a
skin condition, but I have the remnants of the anvil bone and a stainless
implant to tell me otherwise. Titanium works OK (when installed
correctly--failure number 1), as does the plastic/ceramic stuff they use when
the middle ear bonework needs a forklift upgrade.
Pete Brooks
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:49:27 -0400, Silvan <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Now if somebody would come up with SWMBO cancelling headphones...
Nearly:-
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2003070149346.jpg
Mark Rand
RTFM
"Beej-in-GA" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
Charlie wrote
> > And knowing they will. Hearing protection is good.
> >
> > Trouble is, some of your young blokes are already blasting their eardrums
> as
> > badly, possibly worse, with the loudness of the music they listen to.
Agree wholeheartedly Charlie.
Beej wrote
I was also a jet engine mechanic in
> the Navy. I wore the mouse ears and even used ear plugs in addition, but
> working less than a foot from a running J79-8, -10A, -10B is not conducive
> to good hearing health. Boy don't I wish we had had some of the new hearing
> protection technology that we have today back then.
Agree again Beejay, yours sounds worse than mine but just proves I'm
older than you, got mine from Vampires and Sabres! I think the
bearing whine was the thing that did it to me. As if Merlins and
radial wasps weren't bad enough.
Glenn
Glenn Cramond states:
>> > Trouble is, some of your young blokes are already blasting their eardrums
>> as
>> > badly, possibly worse, with the loudness of the music they listen to.
>
>Agree wholeheartedly Charlie.
I've been told that some of these kids now drive with ear plugs in and speakers
blasting. I'm about to start a movement that will make it illegal for ANYONE to
play an in-vehicle stereo loud enough to be heard 2' beyond the vehicle. (Joke
there: I don't have time.) But the real stunner came last summer when I looked
to see WTF was making so much noise...house felt like it was moving in and
out...and saw 2 kids at the next-door-neighbor's house (well, at the curb),
with their heads in the open trunk of a nasty looking brown car. It turns out,
the speakers were in the trunk. It was turned up so far it was making my house
dance, and the door panels in the car sounded like a regiment of garbage cans
being beat upon by a division of Coke bottles (reference is to the opening
scene of Jack Webb's "The DI").
There has to be some sort of allure to this beyond absolutely appalling
stupidity, but I'll be damned if I can figure it out. Attention getting? If
this builds self-esteem, I feel sorry for these kids now, and sorrier for the
world when they grow up.
>I'm
>older than you, got mine from Vampires and Sabres! I think the
>bearing whine was the thing that did it to me. As if Merlins and
>radial wasps weren't bad enough.
Didn't get close enough to Brit technology...hanging around with a couple Royal
Marines for a weekend was enough! But we had our share of supercharged HUS-1s
(helichoppers for those who don't know) running up on the flight line as we
checked out instruments. Inside the hangers, we got the echoes from the flight
line. There was a moderate amount of gunfire annually, too. If anyone you know
wants to fire 500 rounds of .30-06 ammo in a single day, tell them a ball of
cotton in each ear is simply not enough. Not too long after I got out of the
Marines, I started covering motocross races for varioius magazines. Getting the
results and the shots, especially at the start line, was deafening in those
days of shrieking 2 strokes. After that, it was my own machinery, then
woodworking jumped all the way into the fray, though I'd had my share of that
in a small altar factory when I was 16-17. In those days, sound was unmuffled
and dust nicely distributed in the air, and no one though much about either.
Charlie Self
We thought, because we had power, we had wisdom.
Stephen Vincent Benet
I took a Smith & Wesson .357 magnum to the range one day in 1964. Fired 5
shots without ear protection. The ringing hasn't stopped since. But I've
learned to live with it. Don't hear the telephone or doorbell, but the dog
barks to alert me. But it's not as bad as going blind. I do wear ear
protection when using the chain saw or the thickness planer, and I don't
shoot anymore. harrym
"Glenn Cramond" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Do you know the high pitched sound a radio makes when it's not quite
> tuned to a station? The high pitched noise that, in its annoyance,
> takes you directly to the source to twiddle the knobs?
>
> Well here's the bad news. If you don't protect your ears, you'll have
> that sound in your ears all the time, and with an auto control that
> turns the volume up when you're stressed and when you're in a quiet
> place, and at nights when you are trying to go to sleep.
>
> The condition is called tinnitus. There is no cure. The good news,
> it's preventable!
>
> Please, you younger indestructable blokes, wear hearing protection,
> and more importantly, particularly the older members, make sure you
> have the right equipment to allow that little guy, who loves to help
> grandpa, to safely work in your shop.
>
> I used to think that eye damage would be terrible, "if I was blind I
> could not check out the girls!" Having tinnitus is worse. A bit like
> standing in a cesspool up to your chin and hoping no one makes waves.
>
> Glenn
> www.metalbashatorium.com
> In Jus Voco Spurius
"Gary Coffman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 15 Jul 2003 14:07:48 -0700, [email protected] (Glenn Cramond)
wrote:
> >The condition is called tinnitus. There is no cure. The good news,
> >it's preventable!
>
> Well, it isn't always preventable. Exposure to loud noises is thought to
> be one way to get it, or at least aggravate it, but there are other
causes.
> Severe ear infection as a child is one common cause, as are high blood
> pressure, diabetes, etc.
>
> I've suffered with it most of my life. My hearing range still tests very
> good, even in the higher registers, but that damn ringing never stops.
> I usually mentally tune it out and don't even think about it, but since
> starting reading this thread, it has been in the front of my
consciousness,
> and annoying as hell.
>
> The most popular belief about tinnitus is that it is due to damaged
> auditory nerves. But I recently read a report where researchers placed
> a sensitive microphone in the ear canal of a sufferer and actually
> recorded the sound. Their theory is that it is a mechanical problem in
> the ear which actually generates the noise. If they're right, it may
> be possible some day to surgically repair the problem and get rid
> of the ringing.
>
> Gary
Too late for me at 60, but that's good news for coming generations. The
cause of my tinnitus would be hard to trace-- high fever as a kid, drill
sergeant in the days when the Army said "ear plugs?", raced cars. The last
time I fired a rifle without ear protection all the sirens of hell let
loose.
Bob
Heh?!? Whadidyasay?!? Hold on...let me turn down the Metallica.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:00:36 GMT, "Dennis J Brown"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The condition is called tinnitus. There is no cure. The good news,
> >> it's preventable!
> >>
> >
> >I just smile when one of the boom cars goes by me with his license plate
> >almost vibrated off because of the volume and bass. Because that smart
> >aleck will have ringing in his ears at an earlier age than I did!
> >
>
> hehehehe im investing all my money in hearing aid stocks! in a few
> years ill be RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! george
Glenn Cramond wrote:
>
> Do you know the high pitched sound a radio makes when it's not quite
> tuned to a station? The high pitched noise that, in its annoyance,
> takes you directly to the source to twiddle the knobs?
>
> Well here's the bad news. If you don't protect your ears, you'll have
> that sound in your ears all the time, and with an auto control that
> turns the volume up when you're stressed and when you're in a quiet
> place, and at nights when you are trying to go to sleep.
>
> The condition is called tinnitus. There is no cure. The good news,
> it's preventable!
>
> Please, you younger indestructable blokes, wear hearing protection,
> and more importantly, particularly the older members, make sure you
> have the right equipment to allow that little guy, who loves to help
> grandpa, to safely work in your shop.
>
> I used to think that eye damage would be terrible, "if I was blind I
> could not check out the girls!" Having tinnitus is worse. A bit like
> standing in a cesspool up to your chin and hoping no one makes waves.
Glenn's right. Protect your ears. I'm 44, my ears have rung steady since I was about 37. Probably partially due to damage done in High School and College (very loud bands), and to a lot of hammering in the last ~28 years some of which was done without plugs or muffs. Protect your ears.
I miss silence. I don't have tinnitus as bad as some, but it's depressing as hell if I dwell on it. Mostly I get to forget about it by being busy. For the most part, tinnitus is as permanent as an amputation. Protect your ears.
If I'm hammering, or grinding, I find that I can do a better job if I'm wearing ear protection... I can hear better what the grinder is doing and I can hit the metal harder with the hammer because it doesn't hurt me to do so. Protect your ears.
There's probably some health hazard to doing this, but I've never had a problem:
An excellent makeshift earplug is a square of toilet paper accordion-folded (not rolled) to about the size of a cigarette filter, placed gently in the ear canal, then soaked with (clean) water. Leave enough paper sticking out so you can get it out.
YMMV.
Your ears are not shaped like mine.
I'm not a doctor.
I'm not a lawyer.
Don't be stupid.
Protect your ears.
If you try to 'reply' to this message without fixing the dot,
your reply will bounce. See below.
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Please update your address books with my new, correct address.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>On 15 Jul 2003 14:07:48 -0700, [email protected] (Glenn Cramond) wrote:
>>The condition is called tinnitus. There is no cure. The good news,
>>it's preventable!
>
<snip>
>
>The most popular belief about tinnitus is that it is due to damaged
>auditory nerves. But I recently read a report where researchers placed
>a sensitive microphone in the ear canal of a sufferer and actually
>recorded the sound.
<snip>
I swear mine is so loud I'm surprised it doesn't keep my wife awake. In my
case I have Meniers which is another of those things they don't know the cause
or any cure. The dizzy spells decrease as the hearing goes. I'm now almost
completely deaf in my left ear but still have the ringing.
Stuart Johnson
Red Oak, Texas
Don't bother, my experience has shown that nobody's home! :^)
"Dominick Fiumara" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My ears ring too.....I just wish I could answer them ;o)
> Cheers!
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> Las Cruces, NM 88003
John Fletcher wrote:
> A lady on the production line in a factory where I used to work
> (electronic assembly, not a noisy environment) had a constant "popping"
> noise in her ears. It was at about heart rate, don't know whether it was
> synchronised. If you placed your ear next to hers, you could hear it
> too. Must have been hell to live with. The noise, not the lady.
I've had a hair in my ear canal rub against my eardrum
with similar results.
Chris wrote:
> It MIGHT be legal, and even safe. I would check into it.
I did, actually. Spent a couple hours surfing yesterday, and could neither
confirm nor deny. The FMCSA web site was unavailable. Sometimes things
that are unavailable become so eventually, and some sites just never, ever
work for me. grizzly.com for example, *always* times out. Something with
my firewall maybe. No clue.
> And even though sirens are high pitched, they are usually loud enough
> that I don't have any problem hearing them through the ear plugs.
I can't hear sirens anyway. Trucks are LOUD.
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New medications as well. Though it probably is to a degree noise - related,
it is also a fact of life that our ears appear to have been designed (like a
few other body parts) for something closer to the old threescore and ten
than today's lifespans. Guess by the time the hair starts coming out of the
ear canal the ones supporting the otoliths start to deteriorate.
I'm deaf over 4000Hz where jets wind up myself -can't sue Uncle Sam, of
course - but I'm also the only one who can get a good blood pressure by
auscultation in an ambulance full of high-pitched road noise!
"pete brooks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bob Schmall wrote:
> > I've heard about a hearing aid that cancels out the tinnitus by
producing a
> > sound of just the right frequency to "block" it. Senior moment--I can't
> > think of the technical term for this. I don't know if it's on the
market,
> > but if it is I'll bet it sells for twice what the average aid costs, say
> > about $2,000.
>
> It's called a "masking" device. Last I heard (circa '91) it used white
noise
> to do the deed. No idea on costs.
>
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Glenn Cramond wrote:
>
> Of late, it seems to have settled in for good. I _do_ wear hearing
> protectors in the shop, while mowing, while weed eating, while whacking on
> an anvil, and I have been for years (and my kids too, yes), but I think the
> damage must be coming from the truck (tractor-trailer) I drive.
>
> Not much I can do about that. I don't think it's legal to wear hearing
> protection while driving. I'm supposed to be able to hear emergency
> vehicles, even though I can't hear a damn thing inside that truck except
> the engine and the turbo and the fan and the incredible wind noise.
Glenn,
It MIGHT be legal, and even safe. I would check into it.
I say it might be safe because I ride a motorcycle and wear hearing
protection - ear plugs inside my helmet. The prolonged high-pitched
wind noise is one of the most damaging frequencies for your ears. It
also drowns out other noises. I find that when I wear ear plugs I can
actually hear most sounds BETTER (my own engine, car horns, etc). Ear
plugs tend to block out more of the higher pitched sounds (which are
the most damaging) and let through the lower pitched sounds (horns).
And even though sirens are high pitched, they are usually loud enough
that I don't have any problem hearing them through the ear plugs.
The ear plugs have the added benefit of making me feel warmer (no,
really!). It seems that on chilly days, the sound of the wind has the
psychological effect of making it feel even colder. I know it's all
in my head, but that's were it really counts!
-Chris
A lady on the production line in a factory where I used to work
(electronic assembly, not a noisy environment) had a constant "popping"
noise in her ears. It was at about heart rate, don't know whether it was
synchronised. If you placed your ear next to hers, you could hear it
too. Must have been hell to live with. The noise, not the lady.
>But I recently read a report where researchers placed
>a sensitive microphone in the ear canal of a sufferer and actually
>recorded the sound. Their theory is that it is a mechanical problem in
>the ear which actually generates the noise. If they're right, it may
>be possible some day to surgically repair the problem and get rid
>of the ringing.
>
>Gary
>
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IOW?
I was going to ignore it too... But I had to jump on the bandwagon
too... I used http://www.m-w.com/home.htm because I couldn't even find
it in the old dictionary beside the computer.
I also googled it and came up with:
http://www.music.mcgill.ca/auscultation/auscultation.html
Worth a visit just to hear the difference between "normal vesicular
sound" (clear lungs) and "Emphysema" ("a prolonged expiratory phase,
diminished breath sounds, and crackles. This combination can be often
heard in patients with emphysema").
chem (who's about to lose her posting privileges for so many OT posts...
I don't have a lot to write about metalworking right now. Just
scoping out the territory. I'm beginning a machining course in the
fall. And that's my offical intro to the group. Well, I guess I did
that a couple of months ago, but then I kinda stopped coming around due
to a combination of being busy and getting sick of battling with outlook
express)
Tim Williams wrote:
> "todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Just checking...did anyone but me have to look up "auscultation"?
>
>
> Well.. I was just going to ignore it... ;) <Gets out Webster's>
>
> Huh... IOW what a stethescope is used to aid in...
>
> Tim
>
> --
> In the immortal words of Ned Flanders: "No foot longs!"
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>
>
HarryM wrote:
> I took a Smith & Wesson .357 magnum to the range one day in 1964. Fired 5
> shots without ear protection. The ringing hasn't stopped since. But I've
Yeah, I can relate to that one too. Took my .45 ACP to the range one day.
Forgot my ears. The range is a good distance away, so I figured "it won't
hurt this one time."
I fired off one shot and came home. The ringing from that one *did* stop
though. Or at least faded to practically nothing. I found it hard to
believe that people used to shoot those damn things all day long in an age
before anyone had even invented hearing protectors.
Really drives home the point of what total BS movies like Die Hard are.
Shooting inside an HVAC duct while talking on a radio. Yeah right.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
did you say something?
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Charlie Self wrote:
>>Really drives home the point of what total BS movies like Die Hard are.
>>Shooting inside an HVAC duct while talking on a radio. Yeah right.
>
> Well, hell. Bruce Willis as Super Stud Hero?
Yeah, true enough. True enough.
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:00:36 GMT, "Dennis J Brown"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> The condition is called tinnitus. There is no cure. The good news,
>> it's preventable!
>>
>
>I just smile when one of the boom cars goes by me with his license plate
>almost vibrated off because of the volume and bass. Because that smart
>aleck will have ringing in his ears at an earlier age than I did!
>
hehehehe im investing all my money in hearing aid stocks! in a few
years ill be RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! george
B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
> The Bose units ARE expensive, but for everyday use and quality, it may
> be worth it if they're legal.
I really need to find out. I have a vague notion that canal plugs might be
legal, but headphone types are not.
I'm continuing to look into it. I've been wanting to play with some noise
cancellation goodies ever since I first read about the technology.
Now if somebody would come up with SWMBO cancelling headphones...
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On 15 Jul 2003 14:07:48 -0700, [email protected] (Glenn Cramond)
wrote:
>
>Please, you younger indestructable blokes, wear hearing protection,
>and more importantly, particularly the older members, make sure you
>have the right equipment to allow that little guy, who loves to help
>grandpa, to safely work in your shop.
Nowadays, a good set of 25dB or better ear muffs is less than $20, so
there's no reason not to have them on hand. Our washer and dryer is
in "my" shop, so I keep an extra set for my wife when she needs to be
there while the tools are on.
An extra set is also very good to have when a helper is required.
I've always offered them to helpers, and when I only had one set, _I_
had to suffer!
I really like my Peltors with the AM/FM radio in them. They get used
for mowing, auto races, the shop, or when my wife is on a tear. <G>
They're so comfortable, I wear them most of the time I'm in the shop.
With two sets of rechargeable batteries, I can always have a charged
set ready, without breaking the bank on alkalines.
Barry
Bob Schmall wrote:
> I've heard about a hearing aid that cancels out the tinnitus by producing a
> sound of just the right frequency to "block" it. Senior moment--I can't
> think of the technical term for this. I don't know if it's on the market,
> but if it is I'll bet it sells for twice what the average aid costs, say
> about $2,000.
It's called a "masking" device. Last I heard (circa '91) it used white noise
to do the deed. No idea on costs.
Pete Brooks
"Glenn Cramond" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Please, you younger indestructable blokes, wear hearing protection,
*Turns up Fear Factory* ;-)
Tim
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Jack Erbes wrote:
> Hell, if you're shooting .45 ACP G.I. ammo, you have a ready supply of
> ear protection. Tuck that one of those lovely 215 hardballs in each
> ear and go to it. I used them many times when I got caught short on
> or away from my hearing protectors.
I never thought of that. Now I'm wondering if it would work...
I guess I'll find out one of these days. I sold the guns awhile back
because I hadn't gotten to go shooting for years, and I needed cash.
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