Hi all,
Just a follow up on my previous Ano(i)line Dye Disaster post.
Thanks to the always excellent advice from the Wreck, the project is not a
complete disaster anymore. I was able to rework the dye job and this time
it came out pretty good. As recommended, I ordered Bob Flexiner's book on
Understanding Finishes. This is a very nicely presented, informative book.
In it said that dyes can be removed by using bleach, as someone had
recommended here. I got me a spray bottle and filled it with plain old
Clorox. I took the pieces outside (to minimize toxic fumes as someone
warned) and started spraying. What a miracle. The dye just magically
disappeared. The wood was a bit yellow and I did raise the grain a bit but
considering the mess I started with, it looked great. Next after sanding
everything again, I thinned the dye in half; 2 quarts water to 1 ounce dye
(somehow I thought I had read originally 1 quart water to one ounce dye).
I used a rag instead of a sponge brush. The results were much much better.
Thanks to everyone who contributed their encouraging recommendations for
this very frustrating project.
Gary in Virginia
Patriarch wrote:
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in=20
> news:[email protected]:
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>>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:02:15 -0500, the blithe spirit Australopithecus
>>scobis <[email protected]> clearly indicated:
>>
>>
>>>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:04:21 -0400, WillR wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Read that book from cover to cover -- a few times -- then do a bit mo=
re
>>>>research. It will save many projects...
>>>
>>>Flexner fans take note: he's done a new edition, published 2005. I rea=
d
>>>the library's copy of the first edition, cover to cover, several times=
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>>>Finally bought my own copy this week.=20
>>
>>I pray he doesn't reuse the old pictures. Gawd, what photography in
>>the old one...
>>
>>"Now entering freeway, which is already in progress..."
>>
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> The new one is rather nicely done - quite professionally. And a bargai=
n at=20
> the $20 or so cover price.
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> It's saved me that in screwups already, and I own and have read a few o=
ther=20
> finishing books.
had a look at Lee Valley this noon. Think it is worth the money. I was =
going to get it -- but I thought an excuse to visit next week or this=20
weekend and I can get more...
Lee Valley -- Toys for boys with grey beards...
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> Patriarch,
> cleaning out the shop this week, and taking yellow cans to the recyclin=
g=20
> center...
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Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:02:15 -0500, the blithe spirit Australopithecus
> scobis <[email protected]> clearly indicated:
>
>>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:04:21 -0400, WillR wrote:
>>
>>> Read that book from cover to cover -- a few times -- then do a bit more
>>> research. It will save many projects...
>>
>>Flexner fans take note: he's done a new edition, published 2005. I read
>>the library's copy of the first edition, cover to cover, several times.
>>Finally bought my own copy this week.
>
> I pray he doesn't reuse the old pictures. Gawd, what photography in
> the old one...
>
> "Now entering freeway, which is already in progress..."
>
The new one is rather nicely done - quite professionally. And a bargain at
the $20 or so cover price.
It's saved me that in screwups already, and I own and have read a few other
finishing books.
Patriarch,
cleaning out the shop this week, and taking yellow cans to the recycling
center...
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:02:15 -0500, the blithe spirit Australopithecus
scobis <[email protected]> clearly indicated:
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:04:21 -0400, WillR wrote:
>
>> Read that book from cover to cover -- a few times -- then do a bit more
>> research. It will save many projects...
>
>Flexner fans take note: he's done a new edition, published 2005. I read
>the library's copy of the first edition, cover to cover, several times.
>Finally bought my own copy this week.
I pray he doesn't reuse the old pictures. Gawd, what photography in
the old one...
"Now entering freeway, which is already in progress..."
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 10:17:40 -0500, the blithe spirit Patriarch
<[email protected]> clearly indicated:
RE: Flexner's finishing book
>The new one is rather nicely done - quite professionally. And a bargain at
>the $20 or so cover price.
>
>It's saved me that in screwups already, and I own and have read a few other
>finishing books.
That's good. My favorite (by a margin of 3:1) has always been Jeff
Jewitt's "Hand Applied Finishes.", then Flexner, then Dresdner.
>cleaning out the shop this week, and taking yellow cans to the recycling
>center...
I need to do a cleanup before any more projects, too.
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:04:21 -0400, WillR wrote:
> Read that book from cover to cover -- a few times -- then do a bit more
> research. It will save many projects...
Flexner fans take note: he's done a new edition, published 2005. I read
the library's copy of the first edition, cover to cover, several times.
Finally bought my own copy this week.
--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com
Gary wrote:
> Hi all,
> Just a follow up on my previous Ano(i)line Dye Disaster post.
>=20
> Thanks to the always excellent advice from the Wreck, the project is no=
t a=20
> complete disaster anymore. I was able to rework the dye job and this t=
ime=20
> it came out pretty good. As recommended, I ordered Bob Flexiner's book=
on=20
> Understanding Finishes. This is a very nicely presented, informative b=
ook.=20
> In it said that dyes can be removed by using bleach, as someone had=20
> recommended here. I got me a spray bottle and filled it with plain old=
=20
> Clorox. I took the pieces outside (to minimize toxic fumes as someone =
> warned) and started spraying. What a miracle. The dye just magically =
> disappeared. The wood was a bit yellow and I did raise the grain a bit=
but=20
> considering the mess I started with, it looked great. Next after sandi=
ng=20
> everything again, I thinned the dye in half; 2 quarts water to 1 ounce =
dye=20
> (somehow I thought I had read originally 1 quart water to one ounce dye=
).=20
> I used a rag instead of a sponge brush. The results were much much bet=
ter.
>=20
> Thanks to everyone who contributed their encouraging recommendations fo=
r=20
> this very frustrating project.
>=20
> Gary in Virginia
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Whew -- fooled them again -- as we used to say.
Glad it worked out.
Read that book from cover to cover -- a few times -- then do a bit more=20
research. It will save many projects...
I have been using aniline dye with oak, cherry and pine -- so far so good=
=2E
--=20
Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw