If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
Hope this helps,
John
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:46:28 -0500, "John Sellers" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Just use a little Sting-eze, they're barbless hooks.
>
>John
Naw, don't need it; I got it. Did see you managed to hook one.
>
>"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:05:16 -0500, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
>> >need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>> >
>> >It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
>> >breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
>> >duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>> >
>> >I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>> >
>> >Hope this helps,
>> >John
>> >
>>
>> John,
>>
>> Put down the beer. Step away from the beer. ....
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>+---------------------------------------------------------------------
>-----------+
>> The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of
>safety
>> Army General Richard
>Cody
>>
>+---------------------------------------------------------------------
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+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
[email protected] wrote:
> If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
> need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
Is the copper used in the plumbing domestic or imported?
> It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
> breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
> duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
A good idea! This stuff should work:
http://www.big-o.com/hdpep/boss1000.htm
> I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
Just don't let her use a WaterPik unless it's isolated.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
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Just use a little Sting-eze, they're barbless hooks.
John
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:05:16 -0500, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
> >need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
> >
> >It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
> >breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
> >duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
> >
> >I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
> >
> >Hope this helps,
> >John
> >
>
> John,
>
> Put down the beer. Step away from the beer. ....
>
> :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
+---------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------+
> The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of
safety
> Army General Richard
Cody
>
+---------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------+
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <ZM1%[email protected]>,
> WillR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
>> > need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>> >
>> > It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
>> > breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
>> > duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>> >
>> > I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Sounds good -- you might want to try a 60CFS motor on a 100Amp breaker
>> with an old 3Phase motor wired in series with an auger bit. And twirl.
>>
>> Good one.
>
> 9300CFM?? That would suck a sinker right off the end of my Popiel!!
Sinker!??? It would suck you right off the other end of your Popiel and be
looking around for more
--
Regards,
Mike
Flower Mound, Texas
At this kind of power rating skip ground it to the pipes, wire the ducting
back to the DC and it will power itself.....and most of the tools in the
shop. The other advantage is that you won't have any dust within say 100
yds of the shop ( or bugs, or birds, small aircraft ......)
John C
"Mark Howell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Wb1%[email protected]...
>>
>> If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
>> need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>>
>> It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
>> breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
>> duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>>
>> I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> John
>>
>>
>
> Well let's see, 9300 cfm through PVC will generate a static charge of
> approximately 350KV, and SWMBO will probably *feel* that. So
> copper tubing, any size, is out of the question. You need to replace
> the copper with gold-palladium tubing for superior conductivity, and
> as a bonus, the tubing looks great as it has a certain *chatoyance* to
> it. Sure it costs a little more, but you don't want SWMBO shutting
> down your shop, do you?
>
>
>
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Wb1%[email protected]...
>
> If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
> need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>
> It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
> breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
> duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>
> I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>
> Hope this helps,
> John
>
>
Well let's see, 9300 cfm through PVC will generate a static charge of
approximately 350KV, and SWMBO will probably *feel* that. So
copper tubing, any size, is out of the question. You need to replace
the copper with gold-palladium tubing for superior conductivity, and
as a bonus, the tubing looks great as it has a certain *chatoyance* to
it. Sure it costs a little more, but you don't want SWMBO shutting
down your shop, do you?
[email protected] wrote:
> If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
> need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>=20
> It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
> breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
> duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>=20
> I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>=20
> Hope this helps,
> John
>=20
>=20
Sounds good -- you might want to try a 60CFS motor on a 100Amp breaker=20
with an old 3Phase motor wired in series with an auger bit. And twirl.
Good one.
--=20
Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:05:16 -0500, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
>need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>
>It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
>breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
>duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>
>I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>
>Hope this helps,
>John
>
John,
Put down the beer. Step away from the beer. ....
:-)
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Here is a good read, very informative, take a look at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/rodec/woodworking/articles/DC_myths.html
Read it through (it's short)
I've got to ask why you need to run a 3hp motor on a 60A ckt, is this what
you have? Sound like over kill (way over), if you use a 60A breaker (or more
like 50 is what I've seen), does the wiring support this?
9,300 CFM? Careful you don't suck up you're bench top tools. Don't know the
size impeller you're using but specs on my delta with 3hp (that's running on
a 30A ckt) is about 3000cfm. I live at 7,000 ft, so don't know what the real
value is. Vendors don't do a good job of telling us what cfm value you will
likely see.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Wb1%[email protected]...
>
> If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
> need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>
> It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
> breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
> duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>
> I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>
> Hope this helps,
> John
>
>
In article <ZM1%[email protected]>,
WillR <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
> > need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
> >
> > It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
> > breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
> > duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
> >
> > I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > John
> >
> >
>
>
> Sounds good -- you might want to try a 60CFS motor on a 100Amp breaker
> with an old 3Phase motor wired in series with an auger bit. And twirl.
>
> Good one.
That would change the air in a garage every 20 seconds...who needs
ducting? It will BE a duct!
In article <ZM1%[email protected]>,
WillR <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
> > need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
> >
> > It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
> > breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
> > duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
> >
> > I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > John
> >
> >
>
>
> Sounds good -- you might want to try a 60CFS motor on a 100Amp breaker
> with an old 3Phase motor wired in series with an auger bit. And twirl.
>
> Good one.
9300CFM?? That would suck a sinker right off the end of my Popiel!!
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:44:21 -0700, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:27:50 -0500, "no(SPAM)vasys"
><"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>> If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
>>> need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>>
>>Is the copper used in the plumbing domestic or imported?
>>
>>> It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
>>> breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
>>> duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>>
>>A good idea! This stuff should work:
>>
>>http://www.big-o.com/hdpep/boss1000.htm
>>
>
> Oh yeah! That 900 mm (~36") should be just about what you need. I
>didn't see any T's or Y's on that web site though. That could be somewhat
>problematic. Let's see, 9600 CFM, 36" pipe, set that in front of the
>Unisaw, you don't even have to worry about offcuts riding by the blade,
>they'll be sucked right into the collector. 'course if you are cutting
>small pieces, you might have some problem with them being pulled in as
>well. That would suck.
>
but it could do away with worries about kick back.. just have a lumber bin in
the 2,000 gallon cyclone separator..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:27:50 -0500, "no(SPAM)vasys"
<"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote:
>> I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>
>Just don't let her use a WaterPik unless it's isolated.
You're not giving away the WaterPic!!!!
Oops. Sorry. I thought I was on alt.tv.seinfeld
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:05:16 -0500, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
>need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>
>It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
>breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
>duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>
>I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>
>Hope this helps,
>John
>
John...
I think this is a GREAT idea... wire the ducting for 220, also..
and make sure that you use #20 biscuits to hold those segmented turnings
together, also..
In answer to your next question:
Yes, you can and will paint cherry...
mac
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:46:14 -0700, "Nicky" <nick_no@[email protected]>
wrote:
>9,300 CFM? Careful you don't suck up you're bench top tools.
Tools? I hope he dosen't have any small dogs or cats.
Damn, that would suck...
Barry
"John Sellers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9I5%[email protected]...
>
> > copper tubing, any size, is out of the question. You need to replace
> > the copper with gold-palladium tubing for superior conductivity, and
> > as a bonus, the tubing looks great as it has a certain *chatoyance*
>
>
> So, the offcuts can be used as push sticks too...
>
...and wind chimes!
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:27:50 -0500, "no(SPAM)vasys"
<"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
>> need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>
>Is the copper used in the plumbing domestic or imported?
>
>> It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
>> breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
>> duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>
>A good idea! This stuff should work:
>
>http://www.big-o.com/hdpep/boss1000.htm
>
Oh yeah! That 900 mm (~36") should be just about what you need. I
didn't see any T's or Y's on that web site though. That could be somewhat
problematic. Let's see, 9600 CFM, 36" pipe, set that in front of the
Unisaw, you don't even have to worry about offcuts riding by the blade,
they'll be sucked right into the collector. 'course if you are cutting
small pieces, you might have some problem with them being pulled in as
well. That would suck.
>
>> I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>
>Just don't let her use a WaterPik unless it's isolated.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
The absence of accidents does not mean the presence of safety
Army General Richard Cody
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I was at ahouse where they had temporary power rigged up by some
amatuer. They appear to have crossed the neutral and the hot leg.
Maybe something else but when you would drink from the copper spigot
your tarter would get knocked off your teeth. A low voltage cleaning
session.
"snowdog" <[email protected]> wrote:
>At this kind of power rating skip ground it to the pipes, wire the ducting
>back to the DC and it will power itself.....and most of the tools in the
>shop. The other advantage is that you won't have any dust within say 100
>yds of the shop ( or bugs, or birds, small aircraft ......)
>
>John C
>
>"Mark Howell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:Qz5%d.12938$UV2.9207@trnddc04...
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:Wb1%[email protected]...
>>>
>>> If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
>>> need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>>>
>>> It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
>>> breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
>>> duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>>>
>>> I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well let's see, 9300 cfm through PVC will generate a static charge of
>> approximately 350KV, and SWMBO will probably *feel* that. So
>> copper tubing, any size, is out of the question. You need to replace
>> the copper with gold-palladium tubing for superior conductivity, and
>> as a bonus, the tubing looks great as it has a certain *chatoyance* to
>> it. Sure it costs a little more, but you don't want SWMBO shutting
>> down your shop, do you?
>>
>>
>>
>
Jim B.
> If I ground my PVC dust collection ducts to my water pipes, will I
> need to sweat bigger copper tubing since my dust collector is 240V?
>
> It's a 3HP motor, but not that efficient so I'll run it on a 60A
> breaker. I'm planning to get about 9,300 CFM, but will use 18-inch
> duct to make sure the pressure drop isn't too bad.
>
> I don't want SWMBO to get shocked while she's brushing her teeth.
>
> Hope this helps,
> John
Gee whiz, it only makes sense, doesn't it?! Seems like the greater th
possible static grounding, the greater need for a good ground, hmm
Lessee, 240v, 3 horsies, 60amps, I'd say about the surface area of
good beating! Back to you, John! Tom(Who doesn't mind when she get
shocked
--
tomeshew