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rlz

31/05/2013 10:59 AM

magnetic blade angle detector

I recently bought digital angle guage that magnetically attaches to my
tablesaw blade. It detects the angle of the blade cut. My question
is whether it actually measures the angle in relationship to the
tablesaw or true level.

Robin


This topic has 15 replies

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Leon

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

01/06/2013 1:32 PM

On 5/31/2013 8:19 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>
>> Oh hell no, read the directions as a last resort! :~)
>
> Relevant: http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2009/06/02
>


Exactly! LOL

En

"EXT"

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 4:45 PM


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>> Place it on the table and zero it out. When attached to the blade it
>>
>> will then be referenced off the table.
>>
>> --
>
> What he said.

Either that or use it to level the table first.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 6:00 PM


"Leon" wrote:

> Oh hell no, read the directions as a last resort!
-----------------------------------
That's cheating.

Lew

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 12:16 PM


> Place it on the table and zero it out. When attached to the blade it
>
> will then be referenced off the table.
>
> --

What he said.

Ll

Leon

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 7:31 PM

On 5/31/2013 6:10 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 5/31/2013 1:59 PM, rlz wrote:
>> I recently bought digital angle guage that magnetically attaches to my
>> tablesaw blade. It detects the angle of the blade cut. My question
>> is whether it actually measures the angle in relationship to the
>> tablesaw or true level.
>>
>> Robin
>>
> That depends, if you zero it on your table then put it on the blade its
> relative to the table.
>
> If not its just true to level.
>


Assuming it was zeroed to true level to begin with, not likely.

Ll

Leon

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 7:33 PM

On 5/31/2013 1:58 PM, rlz wrote:
> On May 31, 12:09 pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:59:00 -0700 (PDT), rlz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently bought digital angle guage that magnetically attaches to my
>>> tablesaw blade. It detects the angle of the blade cut. My question
>>> is whether it actually measures the angle in relationship to the
>>> tablesaw or true level.
>>
>>> Robin
>>
>> Place it on the table and zero it out. When attached to the blade it
>> will then be referenced off the table.
>> --
>> Jack Novak
>> Buffalo, NY - USA
>
> I guess I'll have to read the instructions and see how to do that. I
> used it for the first time yesterday and my 45 degree (based on the
> gauge) cuts didn't match up when I built a small frame.
>
> Robin
>


Oh hell no, read the directions as a last resort! :~)

wn

woodchucker

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 7:10 PM

On 5/31/2013 1:59 PM, rlz wrote:
> I recently bought digital angle guage that magnetically attaches to my
> tablesaw blade. It detects the angle of the blade cut. My question
> is whether it actually measures the angle in relationship to the
> tablesaw or true level.
>
> Robin
>
That depends, if you zero it on your table then put it on the blade its
relative to the table.

If not its just true to level.

--
Jeff

Ll

Leon

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

01/06/2013 1:38 PM

On 5/31/2013 8:30 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 5/31/2013 8:31 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 5/31/2013 6:10 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> On 5/31/2013 1:59 PM, rlz wrote:
>>>> I recently bought digital angle guage that magnetically attaches to my
>>>> tablesaw blade. It detects the angle of the blade cut. My question
>>>> is whether it actually measures the angle in relationship to the
>>>> tablesaw or true level.
>>>>
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>> That depends, if you zero it on your table then put it on the blade its
>>> relative to the table.
>>>
>>> If not its just true to level.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Assuming it was zeroed to true level to begin with, not likely.
>
> Actually I have one that is similar.
> I don't use it much, but it was dead on, Checked with a level, and it is
> very good. Mine is the tiltbox ii, not as good resolution as the wixey..
> but well made, and batteries have lasted for about 2 years.
>
> I have used it with a steel stud (pretty straight) for grading single
> handedly. played with it in the shop, and it's good, but I don't find it
> that useful for WW needs in the shop.
>


I have had one too for years, it is the only way I set my bevel angle on
my TS. But these measuring devises do not indicate level, rather they
indicate the degree of tilt from where it was last zeroed.

My batteries started lasting much longer after realizing that the tight
fitting case pressed the" on button" if I was not careful sliding it
back inside the case.

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rlz

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 11:58 AM

On May 31, 12:09=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:59:00 -0700 (PDT), rlz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I recently bought digital angle guage that magnetically attaches to my
> >tablesaw blade. =A0It detects the angle of the blade cut. =A0My question
> >is whether it actually measures the angle in relationship to the
> >tablesaw or true level.
>
> >Robin
>
> Place it on the table and zero it out. =A0When attached to the blade it
> will then be referenced off the table.
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA

I guess I'll have to read the instructions and see how to do that. I
used it for the first time yesterday and my 45 degree (based on the
gauge) cuts didn't match up when I built a small frame.

Robin

Cc

"CW"

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 7:00 PM



"Edward A. Falk" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

In article <[email protected]>,
EXT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Place it on the table and zero it out. When attached to the blade it
>>>
>>> will then be referenced off the table.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> What he said.

Yep.

>Either that or use it to level the table first.

If it's the same cheap Wixley one I have, it has a "zero" button
which causes it to base off of whatever it was sitting on when
you pressed the button. That's an excellent feature if you want to
e.g. set a blade angle relative to the table, but mostly an annoyance
if you want absolute values e.g. using it as a level.

Here's a procedure you can use if you really want to use it as a level:

Place the device on the surface you want to level and zero it. Rotate 180
degrees and note the reading. Adjust the surface half way -- i.e. if the
device now reads 1.5 degrees, tilt the surface until it reads 0.75. Now
zero the device again and repeat the process. Once the surface is level,
the device will read 0 degrees either way. One more tip: now that you
have a surface you know is level, you can use it to calibrate the device
any time you want it to be a true level. Just make sure your reference
surface never gets disturbed.

BTW, it eats batteries. I would remove the battery any time you're
not using it.
===================================================================
Stick the box to the side of your table saw blade. Set zero. Turn the box
180 degrees and stick it to the other side of the blade. Note the reading
and adjust the blade half of the reading. Set zero again and swap sides
again to verify that it is vertical. It should only take one adjustment to
get it right. A lot easier than leveling a surface and keeping it that way
for a reference. Note: This will set your box to zero in relation to the
planet. It also sets your blade vertical to the planet, not the saw. To set
the saw blade to 90 degrees, reference the table.

fE

[email protected] (Edward A. Falk)

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

01/06/2013 1:16 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
EXT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Place it on the table and zero it out. When attached to the blade it
>>>
>>> will then be referenced off the table.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> What he said.

Yep.

>Either that or use it to level the table first.

If it's the same cheap Wixley one I have, it has a "zero" button
which causes it to base off of whatever it was sitting on when
you pressed the button. That's an excellent feature if you want to
e.g. set a blade angle relative to the table, but mostly an annoyance
if you want absolute values e.g. using it as a level.

Here's a procedure you can use if you really want to use it as a level:

Place the device on the surface you want to level and zero it. Rotate 180
degrees and note the reading. Adjust the surface half way -- i.e. if the
device now reads 1.5 degrees, tilt the surface until it reads 0.75. Now
zero the device again and repeat the process. Once the surface is level,
the device will read 0 degrees either way. One more tip: now that you
have a surface you know is level, you can use it to calibrate the device
any time you want it to be a true level. Just make sure your reference
surface never gets disturbed.

BTW, it eats batteries. I would remove the battery any time you're
not using it.

--
-Ed Falk, [email protected]
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

fE

[email protected] (Edward A. Falk)

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

01/06/2013 1:19 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>Oh hell no, read the directions as a last resort! :~)

Relevant: http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2009/06/02

--
-Ed Falk, [email protected]
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

01/06/2013 2:09 PM

On 5/31/13 1:58 PM, rlz wrote:
> On May 31, 12:09 pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:59:00 -0700 (PDT), rlz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently bought digital angle guage that magnetically attaches to my
>>> tablesaw blade. It detects the angle of the blade cut. My question
>>> is whether it actually measures the angle in relationship to the
>>> tablesaw or true level.
>>
>>> Robin
>>
>> Place it on the table and zero it out. When attached to the blade it
>> will then be referenced off the table.
>> --
>> Jack Novak
>> Buffalo, NY - USA
>
> I guess I'll have to read the instructions and see how to do that. I
> used it for the first time yesterday and my 45 degree (based on the
> gauge) cuts didn't match up when I built a small frame.
>
> Robin
>

One thing to keep in mind. Don't lean on the table when reading the device.
When I first got mine, my cuts were way off. Then I realized that, when
bending down to read the angle readout with the cube on the blade, I was
leaning on the table which wasn't sitting perfectly flat on my sloping
concrete garage floor. This changed the angle of the table, ever so
slightly, but enough to change the readout by at least a few 10ths...
plenty enough to mess up a miter joint.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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wn

woodchucker

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 9:30 PM

On 5/31/2013 8:31 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 5/31/2013 6:10 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 5/31/2013 1:59 PM, rlz wrote:
>>> I recently bought digital angle guage that magnetically attaches to my
>>> tablesaw blade. It detects the angle of the blade cut. My question
>>> is whether it actually measures the angle in relationship to the
>>> tablesaw or true level.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>> That depends, if you zero it on your table then put it on the blade its
>> relative to the table.
>>
>> If not its just true to level.
>>
>
>
> Assuming it was zeroed to true level to begin with, not likely.

Actually I have one that is similar.
I don't use it much, but it was dead on, Checked with a level, and it is
very good. Mine is the tiltbox ii, not as good resolution as the wixey..
but well made, and batteries have lasted for about 2 years.

I have used it with a steel stud (pretty straight) for grading single
handedly. played with it in the shop, and it's good, but I don't find it
that useful for WW needs in the shop.

--
Jeff

Nn

Nova

in reply to rlz on 31/05/2013 10:59 AM

31/05/2013 2:09 PM

On Fri, 31 May 2013 10:59:00 -0700 (PDT), rlz <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I recently bought digital angle guage that magnetically attaches to my
>tablesaw blade. It detects the angle of the blade cut. My question
>is whether it actually measures the angle in relationship to the
>tablesaw or true level.
>
>Robin

Place it on the table and zero it out. When attached to the blade it
will then be referenced off the table.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA


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