Joining wood

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Swingman asks:
>
>>"Charlie Self" wrote in message
>>> Slowhand asks:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >news:[email protected]...
>>> >> bluemax responds:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>>> >>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>>> >>
>>> >> Or even a couple 16d nails.
>>> >
>>> >Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>>> >1. Galvanized?
>>> >2. Common or Box?
>>> >3. Finish or Sinker head
>>>
>>> Or scaffold.
>>
>>smooth or ring shank?
>
> Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
nails. Or the slang "dupes".
SH

In article <[email protected]>,
Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>Slowhand responds:
>
>>>>> >>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>>>>> >>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Or even a couple 16d nails.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>>>>> >1. Galvanized?
>>>>> >2. Common or Box?
>>>>> >3. Finish or Sinker head
>>>>>
>>>>> Or scaffold.
>>>>
>>>>smooth or ring shank?
>>>
>>> Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.
>>
>>I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
>>nails. Or the slang "dupes".
>>SH
>
>Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
>called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
>ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me thinking it
>was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.

And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.

I've got one in my toolbox.

left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Slowhand responds:
>
>>>>> >>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>>>>> >>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Or even a couple 16d nails.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>>>>> >1. Galvanized?
>>>>> >2. Common or Box?
>>>>> >3. Finish or Sinker head
>>>>>
>>>>> Or scaffold.
>>>>
>>>>smooth or ring shank?
>>>
>>> Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth
>>> shanks.
>>
>>I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them
>>duplex
>>nails. Or the slang "dupes".
>>SH
>
> Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard
> them
> called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly
> enough--getting
> ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me
> thinking it
> was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.

Reminds me of a search I sent an apprentice carpenter off for so he wouldn't
bug me.

We were stripping a bunch of sidewalk forms. I told the young apprenctice
to go to the job shack and get the 5 gallon bucket of form-off. He looked
and looked and finally asked the superintendent where it was.

He came back with a sheepish grin and said the superintendent was ordering a
bucket of f***-off for me.
SH

In article <[email protected]>,
Joe Gorman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Slowhand responds:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>>>>>>>>>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Or even a couple 16d nails.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>>>>>>>>1. Galvanized?
>>>>>>>>2. Common or Box?
>>>>>>>>3. Finish or Sinker head
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Or scaffold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>smooth or ring shank?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.
>>>>
>>>>I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
>>>>nails. Or the slang "dupes".
>>>>SH
>>>
>>>Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
>>>called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
>>>ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me
>thinking it
>>>was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.
>>
>>
>> And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.
>>
>> I've got one in my toolbox.
>>
>
> left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.
>>
>>
>I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
>bit in when lifting.

You apparently don't know the difference between a "pipe wrench" and
a "monkey wrench".

A monkey wrench does _not_ have any 'teeth' on the jaws. It's used
for gripping _flats_, (parallel surfaces, like the faces of hex-head bolts,
or nuts.)

> Guy I worked with,in the Navy, supposedly
>was sent to get one. He was the type of guy that deserved it at
>the time. He had a friend who found them in a set, special order
>of course, for the price of a small car at the time. Early 70's.
> Took the chit back to have it initialed. His boss thought the
>supply guy was helping him out so he signed it. Guy I knew was
>transferred to another work center when they arrived.
>Joe

There's the story from some Army base, about the FNG that gets sent on
one of those hunts -- striped paint, I think this was -- who goes down
to the Motor Pool, tells the Sargent there that "Lieutenant So-and-so
sent me for some striped paint; there doesn't seem to be any on base,
can I get a jeep to go into town for some?" Sarge goes along with the
gag, and signs him out a jeep. And off he goes. Gets back _just_ before
Lights Out -- w/o any paint (of course). Sarge, in a fatherly mood,
attempts to explain: "Son, you know there *isn't* any such thing as striped
paint." To which the kid replies, in a somewhat superior tone of voice:
"Sure, Sarge, I knew *that*. But I got out of that work detail, the use
of a jeep, *and* got into town for the day, didn't I?

In article <[email protected]>,
Joe Gorman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Joe Gorman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Slowhand responds:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>>>>>>>>>>>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Or even a couple 16d nails.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>>>>>>>>>>1. Galvanized?
>>>>>>>>>>2. Common or Box?
>>>>>>>>>>3. Finish or Sinker head
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Or scaffold.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>smooth or ring shank?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call
>them duplex
>>>>>>nails. Or the slang "dupes".
>>>>>>SH
>>>>>
>>>>>Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
>>>>>called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
>>>>>ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me
>>>
>>>thinking it
>>>
>>>>>was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.
>>>>
>>>>I've got one in my toolbox.
>>>>
>>>
>>>left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.
>>>
>>>>
>>>I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
>>>bit in when lifting.
>>
>>
>> You apparently don't know the difference between a "pipe wrench" and
>> a "monkey wrench".
>>
>> A monkey wrench does _not_ have any 'teeth' on the jaws. It's used
>> for gripping _flats_, (parallel surfaces, like the faces of hex-head bolts,
>> or nuts.)
>>
>OK, so what's the purpose of the left handed threads?

Take your pick:
1) hybrid of rhinoceros and elephant --- i.e. 'elephino'.
2) discourages others from 'borrowing' it
3) Gag gift value
4) feels more 'natural' for a south-paw

In truth, "I dunno" applies, It came from my grandfather's toolbox, to my
father's, and thence to mine.

Granddad was chief maintainence engineer for a large mine, in northern Idaho,
It's possible he may have _made_ that wrench -- again, "I dunno" applies. :)

Slowhand responds:

>>>> >>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>>>> >>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Or even a couple 16d nails.
>>>> >
>>>> >Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>>>> >1. Galvanized?
>>>> >2. Common or Box?
>>>> >3. Finish or Sinker head
>>>>
>>>> Or scaffold.
>>>
>>>smooth or ring shank?
>>
>> Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.
>
>I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
>nails. Or the slang "dupes".
>SH

Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me thinking it
was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.

Charlie Self
"I think we agree, the past is over." George W. Bush

Robert Bonomi wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Slowhand responds:
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>>>>>>>>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Or even a couple 16d nails.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>>>>>>>1. Galvanized?
>>>>>>>2. Common or Box?
>>>>>>>3. Finish or Sinker head
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Or scaffold.
>>>>>
>>>>>smooth or ring shank?
>>>>
>>>>Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.
>>>
>>>I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
>>>nails. Or the slang "dupes".
>>>SH
>>
>>Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
>>called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
>>ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me thinking it
>>was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.
>
>
> And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.
>
> I've got one in my toolbox.
>
> left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.
>
>
I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
bit in when lifting. Guy I worked with,in the Navy, supposedly
was sent to get one. He was the type of guy that deserved it at
the time. He had a friend who found them in a set, special order
of course, for the price of a small car at the time. Early 70's.
Took the chit back to have it initialed. His boss thought the
supply guy was helping him out so he signed it. Guy I knew was
transferred to another work center when they arrived.
Joe

Robert Bonomi wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Joe Gorman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Slowhand responds:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>>>>>>>>>>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Or even a couple 16d nails.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>>>>>>>>>1. Galvanized?
>>>>>>>>>2. Common or Box?
>>>>>>>>>3. Finish or Sinker head
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Or scaffold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>smooth or ring shank?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call them duplex
>>>>>nails. Or the slang "dupes".
>>>>>SH
>>>>
>>>>Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
>>>>called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
>>>>ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me
>>
>>thinking it
>>
>>>>was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.
>>>
>>>
>>>And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.
>>>
>>>I've got one in my toolbox.
>>>
>>
>>left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.
>>
>>>
>>I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
>>bit in when lifting.
>
>
> You apparently don't know the difference between a "pipe wrench" and
> a "monkey wrench".
>
> A monkey wrench does _not_ have any 'teeth' on the jaws. It's used
> for gripping _flats_, (parallel surfaces, like the faces of hex-head bolts,
> or nuts.)
>
OK, so what's the purpose of the left handed threads?

Robert Bonomi wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Joe Gorman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>Joe Gorman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Robert Bonomi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>>Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Slowhand responds:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Or even a couple 16d nails.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>>>>>>>>>>>1. Galvanized?
>>>>>>>>>>>2. Common or Box?
>>>>>>>>>>>3. Finish or Sinker head
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Or scaffold.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>smooth or ring shank?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd never heard of a scaffold nail. Here in O-ree-gone we call
>>
>>them duplex
>>
>>>>>>>nails. Or the slang "dupes".
>>>>>>>SH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard them
>>>>>>called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly enough--getting
>>>>>>ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me
>>>>
>>>>thinking it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've got one in my toolbox.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I always thought the teeth on the jaws were cut opposite so they
>>>>bit in when lifting.
>>>
>>>
>>>You apparently don't know the difference between a "pipe wrench" and
>>>a "monkey wrench".
>>>
>>>A monkey wrench does _not_ have any 'teeth' on the jaws. It's used
>>>for gripping _flats_, (parallel surfaces, like the faces of hex-head bolts,
>>>or nuts.)
>>>
>>
>>OK, so what's the purpose of the left handed threads?
>
>
> Take your pick:
> 1) hybrid of rhinoceros and elephant --- i.e. 'elephino'.
> 2) discourages others from 'borrowing' it
> 3) Gag gift value
> 4) feels more 'natural' for a south-paw
>
> In truth, "I dunno" applies, It came from my grandfather's toolbox, to my
> father's, and thence to mine.
>
> Granddad was chief maintainence engineer for a large mine, in northern Idaho,
> It's possible he may have _made_ that wrench -- again, "I dunno" applies. :)
>
>
Good enough. Being left handed, mostly, 4 sounds good.
Joe

> >>>>>And left-handed monkey wrenches actually *do* exist, too.
left-hand thread on the adjustable jaw.

>>> the purpose of the left handed threads?
> > Take your pick:
> > 1) hybrid of rhinoceros and elephant --- i.e. 'elephino'.
> > 2) discourages others from 'borrowing' it
> > 3) Gag gift value
> > 4) feels more 'natural' for a south-paw

> > Joe Gorman <[email protected]> schreef
Good enough. Being left handed, mostly, 4 sounds good.
Joe

***
Well, in an "adjustable spanner"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable_spanner
it is brand dependent: a real one will have the 'right' thread.
All the copies have the 'wrong' thread (a matter of patent?).
Anyway, it does not seem to make a difference in practice

"Charlie Self" wrote in message

> Ah, well. The news had to get there sooner or later. First time I heard
them
> called scaffold nails was some time around '56, while--oddly
enough--getting
> ready to build a scaffold. My boss sent me off to get some, with me
thinking it
> was a new version of a left-handed monkey wrench search. It wasn't.

Many folks call them "form" nails down here, but most everyone also knows
them by "duplex" nails.

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Swingman asks:

>"Charlie Self" wrote in message
>> Slowhand asks:
>>
>> >
>> >"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> bluemax responds:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>That's a broad open-ended question. Maybe you are a candidate for
>> >>>quick and dirty pocket-hole joinery.
>> >>
>> >> Or even a couple 16d nails.
>> >
>> >Of course that presents another set of criteria.
>> >1. Galvanized?
>> >2. Common or Box?
>> >3. Finish or Sinker head
>>
>> Or scaffold.
>
>smooth or ring shank?

Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.

Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000

<Folks on a roll snipped>
> >>
> >> Or scaffold.
> >
> >smooth or ring shank?
>
> Ah, well scaffold nails are meant to be pulled, so I'd like smooth shanks.
>
Picky, ain't 'cha? <VBG>
Tom