My 30-ish son has the woodworking bug. He got a "you suck" deal on Rigid table saw and was
*given* a Rockwell jointer (needs some TLC) and a 12" belt driven Craftsman Band Saw with a
stack of blades. (His GF's father bought a warehouse from manufacturing company that was
going out of business and these tools were found in a back room) Yeah, I know. He sucks.
Anyway, he doesn't have a router and Christmas is coming. I'm torn between a full size
fixed/plunge kit and a trim fixed/plunge kilt like my MLCS Rocky 30. $95 for the Rocky sounds
like a no brainer but should it be his first router or should he feel the power of a full size router
first? :-)
If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one should I buy? I like my Porter Cable 690
(I actually have 2) but other than a POS Craftsman which was my first, I haven't tried any other manufacturers/models.
I know that a lot of it depends on what he is going to use it for, but recommendations for
models and/or features of a full size version (if appropriate) would be welcome. Thanks.
(Maybe I buy the full size and his siblings split the cost of the Rocky 30. Hmmmm...)
On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 6:46:54 AM UTC-4, Dr. Deb wrote:
> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 12:17:39 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > My 30-ish son has the woodworking bug. He got a "you suck" deal on Rigid table saw and was
> > *given* a Rockwell jointer (needs some TLC) and a 12" belt driven Craftsman Band Saw with a
> > stack of blades. (His GF's father bought a warehouse from manufacturing company that was
> > going out of business and these tools were found in a back room) Yeah, I know. He sucks.
> >
> > Anyway, he doesn't have a router and Christmas is coming. I'm torn between a full size
> > fixed/plunge kit and a trim fixed/plunge kilt like my MLCS Rocky 30. $95 for the Rocky sounds
> > like a no brainer but should it be his first router or should he feel the power of a full size router
> > first? :-)
> >
> > If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one should I buy? I like my Porter Cable 690
> > (I actually have 2) but other than a POS Craftsman which was my first, I haven't tried any other manufacturers/models.
> >
> > I know that a lot of it depends on what he is going to use it for, but recommendations for
> > models and/or features of a full size version (if appropriate) would be welcome. Thanks.
> >
> > (Maybe I buy the full size and his siblings split the cost of the Rocky 30. Hmmmm...)
>
> It really depends on your son's history and just how bad he has the bug. A visit to HF will get him started. Where I would not cut corners is on the bits. The MCLS triple wing are decent bits for a reasonable amount. Then there is Woodline.
>
> Buy the HF combo, have his siblings buy the bits and IF the bug dies, you wind up with some decent bits.
He is already well beyond HF power tools.
HF has it's place, but in my mind, not the place for a first router-Christmas gift. At least not
in this case.
Just another thought.
I was talking to one of my contractor buddies about routers and the fact we=
don't use them much anymore out on site. Rarely... and then we were talki=
ng about how many we had.(Me, 7!)
He suggested the "newer" line of Makita routers. About 4-5 years ago they =
came up with a more quiet router that is actually substantially more quiet =
than other routers that are supposed to be great performers. It is too late=
to undo the damage to my hearing, but after leaning over screaching tools =
for about 45 years now, I have about 15% hearing loss in my right ear, and =
about 5% in my left.
The audiologist told me it was quite common for someone in my line of work =
to have deafness on their dominate side as you have your ear right over mos=
t hand tools when you operate them. Never to early to start saving your he=
aring and sight.
Robert
On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 3:10:26 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
=20
> I would recommend the Bosch 1617EVS fixed and plunge base kit. I have=20
> that router in the fixed base configuration only because in 1998 it did=
=20
> not yet come with a plunge base. ;~( Or something very similar.
I would have to agree with this. I have used this router for about 20 year=
s now on the job (granted, it will sit for a few months a time) and it is s=
till my favorite router in its class. I have several different routers and =
this one is always the "go to". It is smooth operating, holds adjustments a=
nd settings VERY well, has plenty of power (2 1/4 hp), variable speed, and =
is reasonably (comparatively) quiet. It has proven to be a reliable and st=
urdy performer.
It also has a handful of accessories easily available that are quite handy.
There is a newer version that is available, and after looking at the specs =
I would go with that. It is the old 1617, with just a few minor improvemen=
ts, but still only a bit more in price.
https://goo.gl/eDWVkn
Robert
On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 12:17:39 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> My 30-ish son has the woodworking bug. He got a "you suck" deal on Rigid table saw and was
> *given* a Rockwell jointer (needs some TLC) and a 12" belt driven Craftsman Band Saw with a
> stack of blades. (His GF's father bought a warehouse from manufacturing company that was
> going out of business and these tools were found in a back room) Yeah, I know. He sucks.
>
> Anyway, he doesn't have a router and Christmas is coming. I'm torn between a full size
> fixed/plunge kit and a trim fixed/plunge kilt like my MLCS Rocky 30. $95 for the Rocky sounds
> like a no brainer but should it be his first router or should he feel the power of a full size router
> first? :-)
>
> If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one should I buy? I like my Porter Cable 690
> (I actually have 2) but other than a POS Craftsman which was my first, I haven't tried any other manufacturers/models.
>
> I know that a lot of it depends on what he is going to use it for, but recommendations for
> models and/or features of a full size version (if appropriate) would be welcome. Thanks.
>
> (Maybe I buy the full size and his siblings split the cost of the Rocky 30. Hmmmm...)
It really depends on your son's history and just how bad he has the bug. A visit to HF will get him started. Where I would not cut corners is on the bits. The MCLS triple wing are decent bits for a reasonable amount. Then there is Woodline.
Buy the HF combo, have his siblings buy the bits and IF the bug dies, you wind up with some decent bits.
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:47:33 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/27/2017 5:00 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 5:17:23 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 7:13:14 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm a bit torn as to what to do. I don't he'll last until Christmas without buying one on his own.
> >>
> >>> I may have to cancel the surprise and tell him that one is on the way.
> >>
> >> Well... he's not a kid. He may or may not believe in Santa. I hold out hope all these decades later, but have to admit I am starting to have my doubts.
> >>
> >> Truly, what could be better than getting something you REALLY want, no matter when you get it? And who knows, he might put the new router to work making Christmas gifts.
> >>
> >> I say give it to him and let him get after it!
> >>
> >> Robert
> >
> > We met in the middle. I spilled the beans and he wants to see it under the tree.
> >
> > He'll live without the miter gauge slots in his out feed table until Christmas.
> >
>
> Get him a $5 wood chisel from WalMart so he can make a groove now, make
> them look pretty on Dec. 26.
I suggested he buy a dado set, install it in his table saw, flip the saw
upside down onto the out feed table and push really hard.
I hope he remembers to use a straight edge as a guide.
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 11:05:35 AM UTC-4, Steve wrote:
> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 1:17:39 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>=20
> DD, In the on-topic but off-point bucket of replies... I just saw this=
pretty thorough article in Wood Magazine last week on how to "completely o=
utfit" a small shop from start to finish, slowly and over the course of a y=
ear, on a budget of $150 per pay check.=20
>=20
> It had some great ideas, even for those of us with existing shops & asset=
s. Additionally, I'd say that it was geared toward the "20-30 something w=
ho just got the woodworking bug." In each "pay period," you'll find decent=
entry level hand & power tools, with reviews & justifications. =20
>=20
> So... this may or may not help you out, but either way, I thought it was =
a pretty fascinating read--and may be great for your son to take a look at,=
too. Check it out.=20
>=20
> http://www.woodmagazine.com/workshop/idea-shop-6
Thanks, I'll pass that along (and read it too)
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 1:23:34 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> So which router did you decide on, and why?
>
> Robert
Probably the Bosch 1617EVS fixed and plunge base kit.
I know you said that the Bosch MRC23EVSK was newer/better but he's just one of
4 kids + SWMBO. I already bought him a bunch of stuff when he got his table saw
so things are getting out of balance. ;-)
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 4:24:00 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> On 10/25/2017 9:53 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> > Just another thought.
> >=20
> > I was talking to one of my contractor buddies about routers and the fac=
t we don't use them much anymore out on site. Rarely... and then we were t=
alking about how many we had.(Me, 7!)
> >=20
> > He suggested the "newer" line of Makita routers. About 4-5 years ago t=
hey came up with a more quiet router that is actually substantially more qu=
iet than other routers that are supposed to be great performers. It is too =
late to undo the damage to my hearing, but after leaning over screaching to=
ols for about 45 years now, I have about 15% hearing loss in my right ear, =
and about 5% in my left.
> >=20
> > The audiologist told me it was quite common for someone in my line of w=
ork to have deafness on their dominate side as you have your ear right over=
most hand tools when you operate them. Never to early to start saving you=
r hearing and sight.
> >=20
> > Robert
> >=20
>=20
> ;~) The Bosch 1617 EVS is certainly quiet compared to most others o
> especially if you don't have it cranked up. My 3 year old Makita trim=20
> router seems to be relatively quiet too, when going with lower speeds.
> m
> I wonder how they do that, it was a feature on the Bosch when I bought it=
.
>=20
> Maybe they have noise cancellation speakers built in. LOL
>=20
> The rest of my other routers require hearing protection when I am
> operating them. ESPECIALLY the Triton!
I'm a bit torn as to what to do. I don't he'll last until Christmas without=
buying one on his own.
He just sent me a picture of the out feed table he's building. He's gotta a=
dd the miter gauge=20
slots so my guess/fear is that he'll have a router by the end of the weeken=
d.
I want to ask him how he plans to cut them...maybe he hasn't figured it out=
yet, but as
soon as he realizes he needs a router, he'll buy one. We talked about them =
when I
sent him the picture of the router table I added to my table saw, so it's a=
lready on his mind.
I may have to cancel the surprise and tell him that one is on the way.
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:30:59 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"DerbyDad03" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> My 30-ish son has the woodworking bug. He got a "you suck" deal on Rigid
>> table saw and was
>> *given* a Rockwell jointer (needs some TLC) and a 12" belt driven
>> Craftsman Band Saw with a
>> stack of blades. (His GF's father bought a warehouse from manufacturing
>> company that was
>> going out of business and these tools were found in a back room) Yeah, I
>> know. He sucks.
>>
>> Anyway, he doesn't have a router and Christmas is coming. I'm torn between
>> a full size
>> fixed/plunge kit and a trim fixed/plunge kilt like my MLCS Rocky 30. $95
>> for the Rocky sounds
>> like a no brainer but should it be his first router or should he feel the
>> power of a full size router
>> first? :-)
>>
>> If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one should I
>> buy? I like my Porter Cable 690
>> (I actually have 2) but other than a POS Craftsman which was my first, I
>> haven't tried any other manufacturers/models.
>>
>> I know that a lot of it depends on what he is going to use it for, but
>> recommendations for
>> models and/or features of a full size version (if appropriate) would be
>> welcome. Thanks.
>
>IMO, you won't find anything better than this...
>
>http://www.tritontools.com/en-US/Product/Power%20Tools/Routers/MOF001
>
The only better is the free Craftsman electronic router I just picked
up - virtually unused - for NOTHING.
Anything FREE beats anything I need to pay for - - -
On 10/25/2017 8:13 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> ;~) The Bosch 1617 EVS is certainly quiet compared to most others o
>> especially if you don't have it cranked up. My 3 year old Makita trim
>> router seems to be relatively quiet too, when going with lower speeds.
>> m
>> I wonder how they do that, it was a feature on the Bosch when I bought it.
>>
>> Maybe they have noise cancellation speakers built in. LOL
>>
>> The rest of my other routers require hearing protection when I am
>> operating them. ESPECIALLY the Triton!
>
> I'm a bit torn as to what to do. I don't he'll last until Christmas without buying one on his own.
>
The Bosch is a good choice. Mine is mounted in the table and does a good
job.
Doubt any of the major brands would be a mistake though.
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:11:37 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/24/2017 5:52 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 6:46:54 AM UTC-4, Dr. Deb wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 12:17:39 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> My 30-ish son has the woodworking bug. He got a "you suck" deal on Rigid table saw and was
>>>> *given* a Rockwell jointer (needs some TLC) and a 12" belt driven Craftsman Band Saw with a
>>>> stack of blades. (His GF's father bought a warehouse from manufacturing company that was
>>>> going out of business and these tools were found in a back room) Yeah, I know. He sucks.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, he doesn't have a router and Christmas is coming. I'm torn between a full size
>>>> fixed/plunge kit and a trim fixed/plunge kilt like my MLCS Rocky 30. $95 for the Rocky sounds
>>>> like a no brainer but should it be his first router or should he feel the power of a full size router
>>>> first? :-)
>>>>
>>>> If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one should I buy? I like my Porter Cable 690
>>>> (I actually have 2) but other than a POS Craftsman which was my first, I haven't tried any other manufacturers/models.
>>>>
>>>> I know that a lot of it depends on what he is going to use it for, but recommendations for
>>>> models and/or features of a full size version (if appropriate) would be welcome. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> (Maybe I buy the full size and his siblings split the cost of the Rocky 30. Hmmmm...)
>>>
>>> It really depends on your son's history and just how bad he has the bug. A visit to HF will get him started. Where I would not cut corners is on the bits. The MCLS triple wing are decent bits for a reasonable amount. Then there is Woodline.
>>>
>>> Buy the HF combo, have his siblings buy the bits and IF the bug dies, you wind up with some decent bits.
>>
>> He is already well beyond HF power tools.
>>
>> HF has it's place, but in my mind, not the place for a first router-Christmas gift. At least not
>> in this case.
>>
>If he really has the bug, substandard tools will only frustrate him.
>Buy once, cry once.
+1
On 10/24/2017 5:52 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 6:46:54 AM UTC-4, Dr. Deb wrote:
>> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 12:17:39 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> My 30-ish son has the woodworking bug. He got a "you suck" deal on Rigid table saw and was
>>> *given* a Rockwell jointer (needs some TLC) and a 12" belt driven Craftsman Band Saw with a
>>> stack of blades. (His GF's father bought a warehouse from manufacturing company that was
>>> going out of business and these tools were found in a back room) Yeah, I know. He sucks.
>>>
>>> Anyway, he doesn't have a router and Christmas is coming. I'm torn between a full size
>>> fixed/plunge kit and a trim fixed/plunge kilt like my MLCS Rocky 30. $95 for the Rocky sounds
>>> like a no brainer but should it be his first router or should he feel the power of a full size router
>>> first? :-)
>>>
>>> If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one should I buy? I like my Porter Cable 690
>>> (I actually have 2) but other than a POS Craftsman which was my first, I haven't tried any other manufacturers/models.
>>>
>>> I know that a lot of it depends on what he is going to use it for, but recommendations for
>>> models and/or features of a full size version (if appropriate) would be welcome. Thanks.
>>>
>>> (Maybe I buy the full size and his siblings split the cost of the Rocky 30. Hmmmm...)
>>
>> It really depends on your son's history and just how bad he has the bug. A visit to HF will get him started. Where I would not cut corners is on the bits. The MCLS triple wing are decent bits for a reasonable amount. Then there is Woodline.
>>
>> Buy the HF combo, have his siblings buy the bits and IF the bug dies, you wind up with some decent bits.
>
> He is already well beyond HF power tools.
>
> HF has it's place, but in my mind, not the place for a first router-Christmas gift. At least not
> in this case.
>
If he really has the bug, substandard tools will only frustrate him.
Buy once, cry once.
On 10/23/2017 12:17 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> My 30-ish son has the woodworking bug. He got a "you suck" deal on Rigid table saw and was
> *given* a Rockwell jointer (needs some TLC) and a 12" belt driven Craftsman Band Saw with a
> stack of blades. (His GF's father bought a warehouse from manufacturing company that was
> going out of business and these tools were found in a back room) Yeah, I know. He sucks.
>
> Anyway, he doesn't have a router and Christmas is coming. I'm torn between a full size
> fixed/plunge kit and a trim fixed/plunge kilt like my MLCS Rocky 30. $95 for the Rocky sounds
> like a no brainer but should it be his first router or should he feel the power of a full size router
> first? :-)
>
> If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one should I buy? I like my Porter Cable 690
> (I actually have 2) but other than a POS Craftsman which was my first, I haven't tried any other manufacturers/models.
>
> I know that a lot of it depends on what he is going to use it for, but recommendations for
> models and/or features of a full size version (if appropriate) would be welcome. Thanks.
>
> (Maybe I buy the full size and his siblings split the cost of the Rocky 30. Hmmmm...)
>
For what it is worth, I have the Makita version of the Rocky trim
router. I have bought 7~8 normal and large sized routers through the
years and the small Makita trim router was the last router that I have
bought. I ONLY use the small router for intricate detailed work. More
than likely your son will benefit from a regular sized router to begin
with. He will likely need its power more than what is on the smaller
trim router to begin with.
I would recommend the Bosch 1617EVS fixed and plunge base kit. I have
that router in the fixed base configuration only because in 1998 it did
not yet come with a plunge base. ;~( Or something very similar.
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:17:36 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My 30-ish son has the woodworking bug. He got a "you suck" deal on Rigid table saw and was
>*given* a Rockwell jointer (needs some TLC) and a 12" belt driven Craftsman Band Saw with a
>stack of blades. (His GF's father bought a warehouse from manufacturing company that was
>going out of business and these tools were found in a back room) Yeah, I know. He sucks.
>
>Anyway, he doesn't have a router and Christmas is coming. I'm torn between a full size
>fixed/plunge kit and a trim fixed/plunge kilt like my MLCS Rocky 30. $95 for the Rocky sounds
>like a no brainer but should it be his first router or should he feel the power of a full size router
>first? :-)
>
>If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one should I buy? I like my Porter Cable 690
>(I actually have 2) but other than a POS Craftsman which was my first, I haven't tried any other manufacturers/models.
My first decent router was a PC691 (690 with the 'D' handle). I think
the 'D' handle is great for a first router because it's a more natural
feel, IMO. ...more like a circular saw.
>I know that a lot of it depends on what he is going to use it for, but recommendations for
>models and/or features of a full size version (if appropriate) would be welcome. Thanks.
>
>(Maybe I buy the full size and his siblings split the cost of the Rocky 30. Hmmmm...)
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 7:13:14 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I'm a bit torn as to what to do. I don't he'll last until Christmas without buying one on his own.
> I may have to cancel the surprise and tell him that one is on the way.
Well... he's not a kid. He may or may not believe in Santa. I hold out hope all these decades later, but have to admit I am starting to have my doubts.
Truly, what could be better than getting something you REALLY want, no matter when you get it? And who knows, he might put the new router to work making Christmas gifts.
I say give it to him and let him get after it!
Robert
I have been using Porter Cable PC 690 since day one without complaint. Have=
two 2-base kits. Most everything fots these routers.
I bought the Rocky combination kit last month, found it difficult and attem=
pted a return - sorry, they expect you to pay return postage! Buy through A=
mazon Prime was the lesson hammered home there. Or at Lowes or HD store - j=
ust in case you get a bum tool!
Maybe, let him buy his own router and get him a set of ultra sharp wood dri=
ll bits - HSS Lipped Brad-Point Drills Lee Valley - http://www.leevalley.co=
m/us/wood/page.aspx?c=3D&p=3D42247&cat=3D1,180 a BASIC SET is affordable an=
d will have him building a box to keep them pristine! Set of 7 (1/8" to 1/2=
") BP Drills 07J01.07. They are SHARP - warn him to be careful removing the=
protective coating they are shipped with!=20
He will love them the first time he uses one.
On 10/25/2017 9:53 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Just another thought.
>
> I was talking to one of my contractor buddies about routers and the fact we don't use them much anymore out on site. Rarely... and then we were talking about how many we had.(Me, 7!)
>
> He suggested the "newer" line of Makita routers. About 4-5 years ago they came up with a more quiet router that is actually substantially more quiet than other routers that are supposed to be great performers. It is too late to undo the damage to my hearing, but after leaning over screaching tools for about 45 years now, I have about 15% hearing loss in my right ear, and about 5% in my left.
>
> The audiologist told me it was quite common for someone in my line of work to have deafness on their dominate side as you have your ear right over most hand tools when you operate them. Never to early to start saving your hearing and sight.
>
> Robert
>
;~) The Bosch 1617 EVS is certainly quiet compared to most others
especially if you don't have it cranked up. My 3 year old Makita trim
router seems to be relatively quiet too, when going with lower speeds.
I wonder how they do that, it was a feature on the Bosch when I bought it.
Maybe they have noise cancellation speakers built in. LOL
The rest of my other routers require hearing protection when I am
operating them. ESPECIALLY the Triton!
On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 5:17:23 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 7:13:14 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
> > I'm a bit torn as to what to do. I don't he'll last until Christmas without buying one on his own.
>
> > I may have to cancel the surprise and tell him that one is on the way.
>
> Well... he's not a kid. He may or may not believe in Santa. I hold out hope all these decades later, but have to admit I am starting to have my doubts.
>
> Truly, what could be better than getting something you REALLY want, no matter when you get it? And who knows, he might put the new router to work making Christmas gifts.
>
> I say give it to him and let him get after it!
>
> Robert
We met in the middle. I spilled the beans and he wants to see it under the tree.
He'll live without the miter gauge slots in his out feed table until Christmas.
On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 1:17:39 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
DD, In the on-topic but off-point bucket of replies... I just saw this p=
retty thorough article in Wood Magazine last week on how to "completely out=
fit" a small shop from start to finish, slowly and over the course of a yea=
r, on a budget of $150 per pay check.=20
It had some great ideas, even for those of us with existing shops & assets.=
Additionally, I'd say that it was geared toward the "20-30 something who=
just got the woodworking bug." In each "pay period," you'll find decent e=
ntry level hand & power tools, with reviews & justifications. =20
So... this may or may not help you out, but either way, I thought it was a =
pretty fascinating read--and may be great for your son to take a look at, t=
oo. Check it out.=20
http://www.woodmagazine.com/workshop/idea-shop-6
On 10/27/2017 5:00 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 5:17:23 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 7:13:14 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a bit torn as to what to do. I don't he'll last until Christmas without buying one on his own.
>>
>>> I may have to cancel the surprise and tell him that one is on the way.
>>
>> Well... he's not a kid. He may or may not believe in Santa. I hold out hope all these decades later, but have to admit I am starting to have my doubts.
>>
>> Truly, what could be better than getting something you REALLY want, no matter when you get it? And who knows, he might put the new router to work making Christmas gifts.
>>
>> I say give it to him and let him get after it!
>>
>> Robert
>
> We met in the middle. I spilled the beans and he wants to see it under the tree.
>
> He'll live without the miter gauge slots in his out feed table until Christmas.
>
Get him a $5 wood chisel from WalMart so he can make a groove now, make
them look pretty on Dec. 26.
"DerbyDad03" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My 30-ish son has the woodworking bug. He got a "you suck" deal on Rigid
> table saw and was
> *given* a Rockwell jointer (needs some TLC) and a 12" belt driven
> Craftsman Band Saw with a
> stack of blades. (His GF's father bought a warehouse from manufacturing
> company that was
> going out of business and these tools were found in a back room) Yeah, I
> know. He sucks.
>
> Anyway, he doesn't have a router and Christmas is coming. I'm torn between
> a full size
> fixed/plunge kit and a trim fixed/plunge kilt like my MLCS Rocky 30. $95
> for the Rocky sounds
> like a no brainer but should it be his first router or should he feel the
> power of a full size router
> first? :-)
>
> If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one should I
> buy? I like my Porter Cable 690
> (I actually have 2) but other than a POS Craftsman which was my first, I
> haven't tried any other manufacturers/models.
>
> I know that a lot of it depends on what he is going to use it for, but
> recommendations for
> models and/or features of a full size version (if appropriate) would be
> welcome. Thanks.
IMO, you won't find anything better than this...
http://www.tritontools.com/en-US/Product/Power%20Tools/Routers/MOF001
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:17:36 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> If a full size is a better choice as a first router, which one
> should I buy? I like my Porter Cable 690 (I actually have 2) but
buy one that can be returned easily since he may already have an idea
what he wants