There is a small pallet mill down on the other side of the railroad tracks
in town, and they appear to dump their scrap in a pile outside the fence.
This morning I just happened to drop by and came away with quite a bit of
oak, thicknesses 3/4 to maybe 8/4, 4 to 8 inches wide, and maybe two feet
long. Dunno what I'll do with it yet, BUT: it's green. I'd like to retard
checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by the
shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a little
reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable aversion to
lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if that's what it
takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.
In article <[email protected]>,
Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:6615-46F5591A-1906
>@storefull-3331.bay.webtv.net:
>
>> Sat, Sep 22, 2007, 10:09am (EDT-1) jim***willemin@hot***mail.com
>> (Jim Willemin) doth sayeth:
>> <snip> BUT: it's green. <snip>
>>
>> What are they teaching you guys in school nowadays? You're
>> spelling is lousy.
>>
>> The correct spelling should be:
>> BUT: it's free.
>>
>>
>>
>> JOAT
>> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
>> humiliations?
>> - Peter Egan
>>
>>
>
>Free doesn't often mean "free." It means it didn't cost you anthing to
>acquire. Period. Use of the free item may cost you much more in the long
>run than spending money on a non-free item.
Proof: there is nothing in this world that is more expensive than a woman
who is free for the evening.
Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 2:14pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Robert=A0Bonomi) doth sayeth:
Proof: there is nothing in this world that is more expensive than a
woman
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0who is free for the evening.
Something like a $1,000 a night call girl, saying she is "free" for
the evening, eh?
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
J T wrote:
> Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 2:14pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
> (Robert Bonomi) doth sayeth:
> Proof: there is nothing in this world that is more expensive than a
> woman
> who is free for the evening.
>
> Something like a $1,000 a night call girl, saying she is "free"
> for the evening, eh?
A thousand buck a night call girl is a bargain--you don't end up
wining and dining her for six months trying to get her to put out only
to catch her in the sack with some bum.
> JOAT
> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
> humiliations?
> - Peter Egan
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Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 2:36pm [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke)
A thousand buck a night call girl is a bargain--you don't end up wining
and dining her for six months trying to get her to put out only to catch
her in the sack with some bum.
It would seem that you have a lot more disposable income than I do,
and vastly different priorities on what to spend it on.. And, one HELL
of a lot more patience.
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
J T wrote:
> Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 2:36pm [email protected] (J. Clarke)
> A thousand buck a night call girl is a bargain--you don't end up
> wining and dining her for six months trying to get her to put out
> only to catch her in the sack with some bum.
>
> It would seem that you have a lot more disposable income than I
> do, and vastly different priorities on what to spend it on.. And,
> one HELL of a lot more patience.
Nahh, both options are overpriced in my book.
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[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:6615-46F5591A-1906
@storefull-3331.bay.webtv.net:
> Sat, Sep 22, 2007, 10:09am (EDT-1) jim***willemin@hot***mail.com
> (Jim Willemin) doth sayeth:
> <snip> BUT: it's green. <snip>
>
> What are they teaching you guys in school nowadays? You're
> spelling is lousy.
>
> The correct spelling should be:
> BUT: it's free.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
> humiliations?
> - Peter Egan
>
>
Free doesn't often mean "free." It means it didn't cost you anthing to
acquire. Period. Use of the free item may cost you much more in the long
run than spending money on a non-free item.
Puckdropper
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To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
Sat, Sep 22, 2007, 7:29pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
doth claimeth:
Free doesn't often mean "free." It means it didn't cost you anthing to
acquire. Period. Use of the free item may cost you much more in the long
run than spending money on a non-free item.
Nah. If it's fee, take it. You can always sort out the small
stuff later. If nothing else, give it away. LOL
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
If you don't do anything with it you will have firewood.
I have used roofing tar, others use paint.
"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There is a small pallet mill down on the other side of the railroad tracks
> in town, and they appear to dump their scrap in a pile outside the fence.
> This morning I just happened to drop by and came away with quite a bit of
> oak, thicknesses 3/4 to maybe 8/4, 4 to 8 inches wide, and maybe two feet
> long. Dunno what I'll do with it yet, BUT: it's green. I'd like to
> retard
> checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by the
> shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a little
> reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable aversion to
> lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if that's what it
> takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> If you don't do anything with it you will have firewood.
>> I have used roofing tar, others use paint.
>
>
> What is the purpose of coating the ends, to prevent it taking on moisture?
>
If you don't coat them the ends will dry before the center. Since wood
shrinks as it dries, the only way the ends can shrink when the center
doesn't is by cracking. (makes sense if you think about it.)
To make it dry evenly you coat the ends so it has to dry through the sides.
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:03:29 -0700, "Dan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> As I understand it, it is to force slow even drying. The cut capillaries
>> on end grain basically wick moisture out, and allow the stuff near the cut
>> end to dry from the inside out, essentially, forcing the shrinking wood to
>> split. If it dries from the sides instead of the ends, 1) it takes a lot
>> longer, and 2) the wood shrinks from the outside in, allowing it to retain
>> integrity. I just hope it'll be dry enough to work for Christmas...
>
>Makes sense. There's a place around the corner from me that usually has a
>huge pile of pallets marked "free". I've always assumed they were just low
>grade pine. Maybe I'll check 'em out.
>
>Dan
>
I've found pallets Made from many different woods: Pine, Poplar, Oak,
Basswood, Cottonwood (?) - I've even heard of Mahogany and other
exotic woods from over seas and South America. It seems that pallets
are made from whatever wood is available.
A large pile of pallets can be a woodcarvers gold mine.
Bill
Sat, Sep 22, 2007, 10:09am (EDT-1) jim***willemin@hot***mail.com
(Jim=A0Willemin) doth sayeth:
<snip> BUT: it's green. <snip>
What are they teaching you guys in school nowadays? You're
spelling is lousy.
The correct spelling should be:
BUT: it's free.
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
* Jim Willemin <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote:
> checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by the
> shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a little
> reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable aversion to
> lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if that's what it
> takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.
I could totally be wrong about this but in the Bowyer's Bible series
they just use elmers smeared over the endgrain.
matthew
ohio
"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> I know that about actual pallets - this stuff is scrap from the mill
> that makes the pallets - rough cut hardwoods in little chunks, mostly.
> I have gotten maple, walnut, oak (mostly for practice turning). This
> haul was just a lot bigger and nicer than most, with stuff that I think
> will plane down nicely, if I can avoid checks.
Ah, rereading, I see you said scraps. That should be a cool stash.
"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
>
> As I understand it, it is to force slow even drying. The cut capillaries
> on end grain basically wick moisture out, and allow the stuff near the cut
> end to dry from the inside out, essentially, forcing the shrinking wood to
> split. If it dries from the sides instead of the ends, 1) it takes a lot
> longer, and 2) the wood shrinks from the outside in, allowing it to retain
> integrity. I just hope it'll be dry enough to work for Christmas...
Makes sense. There's a place around the corner from me that usually has a
huge pile of pallets marked "free". I've always assumed they were just low
grade pine. Maybe I'll check 'em out.
Dan
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you don't do anything with it you will have firewood.
> I have used roofing tar, others use paint.
What is the purpose of coating the ends, to prevent it taking on moisture?
Dan
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> There is a small pallet mill down on the other side of the railroad
>> tracks in town, and they appear to dump their scrap in a pile outside
>> the fence. This morning I just happened to drop by and came away with
>> quite a bit of oak, thicknesses 3/4 to maybe 8/4, 4 to 8 inches wide,
>> and maybe two feet long. Dunno what I'll do with it yet, BUT: it's
>> green. I'd like to retard
>> checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by
>> the shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a
>> little reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable
>> aversion to lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if
>> that's what it takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.
>
> If you have not used pallets before you may quickly realize that there
> are tons of nails and staples that break off in the wood. I worked
> for a company that received an average of 10-12 pallets a week and I
> finally came to the conclusion that it was best used for fire wood.
>
I know that about actual pallets - this stuff is scrap from the mill
that makes the pallets - rough cut hardwoods in little chunks, mostly.
I have gotten maple, walnut, oak (mostly for practice turning). This
haul was just a lot bigger and nicer than most, with stuff that I think
will plane down nicely, if I can avoid checks.
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> If you don't do anything with it you will have firewood.
>> I have used roofing tar, others use paint.
>
>
> What is the purpose of coating the ends, to prevent it taking on
> moisture?
>
As I understand it, it is to force slow even drying. The cut capillaries
on end grain basically wick moisture out, and allow the stuff near the cut
end to dry from the inside out, essentially, forcing the shrinking wood to
split. If it dries from the sides instead of the ends, 1) it takes a lot
longer, and 2) the wood shrinks from the outside in, allowing it to retain
integrity. I just hope it'll be dry enough to work for Christmas...
"Jim Willemin" <jim***willemin@hot***mail.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There is a small pallet mill down on the other side of the railroad tracks
> in town, and they appear to dump their scrap in a pile outside the fence.
> This morning I just happened to drop by and came away with quite a bit of
> oak, thicknesses 3/4 to maybe 8/4, 4 to 8 inches wide, and maybe two feet
> long. Dunno what I'll do with it yet, BUT: it's green. I'd like to
> retard
> checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by the
> shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a little
> reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable aversion to
> lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if that's what it
> takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.
If you have not used pallets before you may quickly realize that there are
tons of nails and staples that break off in the wood. I worked for a
company that received an average of 10-12 pallets a week and I finally came
to the conclusion that it was best used for fire wood.