I am trying to get by without ever buying another sheet of sandpaper
...
I currently have numerous scrapers, plus the Veritas cabinet scraper,
and am reasonably proficient in their sharpening and use. However, I
am unclear if there is a certain sequence. I typically use the
cabinet scraper first to remove all machine marks since it can remove
more material at a time and is not as tiring as scrapers (although
they only tire the thumbs!). I've just done that because it works as
opposed to ever being taught that is right.
Even more confused as to the role of the scraper plane. I can see
where an open-side scraper plane such as the Lie-Nielson (drool) could
scrape along an inside corner, where the cabinet scraper cannot and a
scraper is awkward. I can theorize that a scaper plane would allow
even faster material removal than a cabinet scraper. But is that it
or does it serve other purposes that I am unaware of, or is it part of
a sequence, scraper plane, cabinet scraper, scraper... or can it do it
all.
And yes, I am partly asking the question to rationalize the purchase
of the L-N at some point ;-)
The L-N scraper is beautiful, but somewhat hard to adjust correctly, as
are all like scrapers. I try it out each time I stop at L-N's factory &
showroom. One of these days I'll decide that I can't get by without it.
Yesterday I drove by but didn't stop. A demonstration of colossal will
power.
Phil
Tom Bergman wrote:
> I am trying to get by without ever buying another sheet of sandpaper
> ...
>
> I currently have numerous scrapers, plus the Veritas cabinet scraper,
> and am reasonably proficient in their sharpening and use. However, I
> am unclear if there is a certain sequence. I typically use the
> cabinet scraper first to remove all machine marks since it can remove
> more material at a time and is not as tiring as scrapers (although
> they only tire the thumbs!). I've just done that because it works as
> opposed to ever being taught that is right.
>
> Even more confused as to the role of the scraper plane. I can see
> where an open-side scraper plane such as the Lie-Nielson (drool) could
> scrape along an inside corner, where the cabinet scraper cannot and a
> scraper is awkward. I can theorize that a scaper plane would allow
> even faster material removal than a cabinet scraper. But is that it
> or does it serve other purposes that I am unaware of, or is it part of
> a sequence, scraper plane, cabinet scraper, scraper... or can it do it
> all.
>
> And yes, I am partly asking the question to rationalize the purchase
> of the L-N at some point ;-)
I've got the Kunz cheapo, and it's the same type of fiddle to get things
right. Once it's ready, you can do some serious area.
That said, I tend to go low angle jack to hand scraper anymore.
"Bannerstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I can't comment on the L/N 85 which is open on the sides of the casting,
my
> experience is with the 212. It does take some getting used to and I was
having
> my doubts when I first got mine but hang in there. I don't use it much on
small
> surfaces, hand scrapers or a Stanley 80 are at least if not more
convenient.
"Tom Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am trying to get by without ever buying another sheet of sandpaper
> ...
>
> I currently have numerous scrapers, plus the Veritas cabinet scraper,
> and am reasonably proficient in their sharpening and use. However, I
> am unclear if there is a certain sequence. I typically use the
> cabinet scraper first to remove all machine marks since it can remove
> more material at a time and is not as tiring as scrapers (although
> they only tire the thumbs!). I've just done that because it works as
> opposed to ever being taught that is right.
>
> Even more confused as to the role of the scraper plane. I can see
> where an open-side scraper plane such as the Lie-Nielson (drool) could
> scrape along an inside corner, where the cabinet scraper cannot and a
> scraper is awkward. I can theorize that a scaper plane would allow
> even faster material removal than a cabinet scraper. But is that it
> or does it serve other purposes that I am unaware of, or is it part of
> a sequence, scraper plane, cabinet scraper, scraper... or can it do it
> all.
>
> And yes, I am partly asking the question to rationalize the purchase
> of the L-N at some point ;-)
I'm wondering if all this talk of scrapers lately is because this month in
the LN calendar has the 212 pictured? Next month, Scrub Planes.
Cheers,
Eric
[email protected] (Tom Bergman) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I went to their www site and no calendars. The Baltimore show is
> normally the first weekend in January ... now I know how to get a
> calendar and perfect timing too (and of course a mandatory plane).
I can see it now.
SWMBO: "I thought we agreed you wouldn't buy another plane at that
woodworking show."
Tom: "No Honey, you don't understand. I didn't buy a plane. All I
bought was this $300 calendar; the plane was included as a bonus."
Good luck buddy.
Cheers,
Mike
"Eric Lund" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
>
> I'm wondering if all this talk of scrapers lately is because this month in
> the LN calendar has the 212 pictured? Next month, Scrub Planes.
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
What? There's an LN calendar!! Never had a need for a calendar in
the shop before. Unlike a clock, I've usually known what day it it.
Guess I need to visit their site now.
"Eric Lund" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Actually, it's on my cubicle wall at work. Pure tool porn. L-N Folks at
> the Pomona WW show gave me a copy when I bought a plane (4 1/2 w/high angle
> frog) at the show.
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
That's probably where mine would go (although I'm temporarily in a
300+ sq.ft corner office [bigger than my shop] I managed to get
assigned to myself while filling in for my boss!!); might as well make
folks wonder ... I'm sure someone will find a way for this to become a
PC issue and get it banned though ;-)
I went to their www site and no calendars. The Baltimore show is
normally the first weekend in January ... now I know how to get a
calendar and perfect timing too (and of course a mandatory plane).
Thanks.
"Tom Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Eric Lund" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > >
> >
> > I'm wondering if all this talk of scrapers lately is because this month
in
> > the LN calendar has the 212 pictured? Next month, Scrub Planes.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Eric
>
> What? There's an LN calendar!! Never had a need for a calendar in
> the shop before. Unlike a clock, I've usually known what day it it.
> Guess I need to visit their site now.
Actually, it's on my cubicle wall at work. Pure tool porn. L-N Folks at
the Pomona WW show gave me a copy when I bought a plane (4 1/2 w/high angle
frog) at the show.
Cheers,
Eric
"PC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The L-N scraper is beautiful, but somewhat hard to adjust correctly, as
> are all like scrapers. I try it out each time I stop at L-N's factory &
> showroom. One of these days I'll decide that I can't get by without it.
>
> Yesterday I drove by but didn't stop. A demonstration of colossal will
> power.
>
>
I think it's a drive by that you are close enough to drive past.
Cheers,
Eric
Tom Bergman wrote:
> What? There's an LN calendar!! Never had a need for a calendar in
> the shop before. Unlike a clock, I've usually known what day it it.
> Guess I need to visit their site now.
No need for a calendar in the shop? What do you _look_ at?
Let's see...I've got:
Marlboro (racing)
Lincoln Electric (racing)
Craftsman (tools)
Snap-On (girls) (oh yeah, and tools)
Bailey Controls (topless girls)
none of them are 2003 calendars ;)
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>I currently have numerous scrapers, plus the Veritas cabinet scraper,
>and am reasonably proficient in their sharpening and use. However, I
>am unclear if there is a certain sequence. I typically use the
>cabinet scraper first to remove all machine marks since it can remove
>more material at a time and is not as tiring as scrapers (although
>they only tire the thumbs!). I've just done that because it works as
>opposed to ever being taught that is right.
what about planing. a scraper is fine but a smoothing plane will do all or the
bulk of the work faster and better then a scraper.
depending on what plane you have and your skill level you may or may not need
to scape. but doing all the work with a scraper is pretty slow and tiring.
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