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"Sasha"

24/01/2005 12:44 PM

Glue

I need to get a new supply of yellow glue. I have been using Elmer's
yellow glue for last two years that I bought in local HD. I have not
complains for it but I have little woodworking experience and didn't
use other glues. I am considering Elmer's, Titlebond II and Titlebond
III. Elmer's is by far cheaper then Titlebond II which is 50% cheaper
then Titlebond III. Are Titlebond II and III worth extra money? My
workshop is in heated basement so I am gluing at ideal temperature and
humidity.


This topic has 9 replies

JJ

in reply to "Sasha" on 24/01/2005 12:44 PM

24/01/2005 4:13 PM

Mon, Jan 24, 2005, 12:44pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Sasha) claims:
I need to get a new supply of yellow glue. <snip>

Does the Elmers do every thing you want it to do? If it does, then
I don't see any real reason to change from it.

Any of the glues would work for me, but I prefer Titebond II.
Different glues do have different set times, but any of them are
stronger than the wood itself. Buy the smallest amount you can get of
each, and compare them, then when you run out, buy the one you prefer.
Your money, your choice.



JOAT
Some is good, more is better, too much is just enough.
- Unknown

JG

"Jim Giblin"

in reply to "Sasha" on 24/01/2005 12:44 PM

25/01/2005 12:49 AM

I prefer Tilebond II to its Elmer alternatives. TBII has a quicker tack and
I like that. What really sold me is the dispenser TB products comes with.
Tilebond comes with a pull-to-open/push-to-close cover. The Elmer et. al.
bottle has a little cap that comes off completely and I invariably winds up
on the floor lost among the sawdust.

I have tried TBIII and I don't like it. TBIII dries to a grey color and, in
my opinion, is much more difficult to clean up.

"Sasha" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to get a new supply of yellow glue. I have been using Elmer's
> yellow glue for last two years that I bought in local HD. I have not
> complains for it but I have little woodworking experience and didn't
> use other glues. I am considering Elmer's, Titlebond II and Titlebond
> III. Elmer's is by far cheaper then Titlebond II which is 50% cheaper
> then Titlebond III. Are Titlebond II and III worth extra money? My
> workshop is in heated basement so I am gluing at ideal temperature and
> humidity.
>

Pu

"PDQ"

in reply to "Sasha" on 24/01/2005 12:44 PM

24/01/2005 4:45 PM

It all depends upon the use to which it is put.

If you do not want water resistant glue, it is better than Titebond.

If you want water resistant glue, Titebond II and III are better.

If you want water proof glue, use 2 part epoxy.

If you have a really complex assembly, use Titebond Extend or Titebond 2 =
Extend, as they are about the same a Elmer's and have a long open time =
so you can fit the components (maybe an extra 10 minutes).

If you want a really solid edge to end bond, try Probond =
Interior/Exterior.=20

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PDQ
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"Sasha" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
| I need to get a new supply of yellow glue. I have been using Elmer's
| yellow glue for last two years that I bought in local HD. I have not
| complains for it but I have little woodworking experience and didn't
| use other glues. I am considering Elmer's, Titlebond II and Titlebond
| III. Elmer's is by far cheaper then Titlebond II which is 50% cheaper
| then Titlebond III. Are Titlebond II and III worth extra money? My
| workshop is in heated basement so I am gluing at ideal temperature and
| humidity.
|

tt

"toller"

in reply to "Sasha" on 24/01/2005 12:44 PM

24/01/2005 9:35 PM

I haven't tried TBIII, but the glue Garrett-Wade sells is better than TBII.

Still, I will be trying TBIII when I next buy glue.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Sasha" on 24/01/2005 12:44 PM

24/01/2005 11:14 PM


"Sasha" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need to get a new supply of yellow glue. I have been using Elmer's
> yellow glue for last two years that I bought in local HD. I have not
> complains for it but I have little woodworking experience and didn't
> use other glues. I am considering Elmer's, Titlebond II and Titlebond
> III. Elmer's is by far cheaper then Titlebond II which is 50% cheaper
> then Titlebond III. Are Titlebond II and III worth extra money? My
> workshop is in heated basement so I am gluing at ideal temperature and
> humidity.


Elmer's also makes a yellow glue called ProBond. This glue is a dryer glue
and tends to set up much more quickly. I prefer the bottle that the ProBond
comes in to any other glue bottle.

That said I prefer TBII for typical use and refill the ProBond bottle with
the TBII. I have just about finished off a case of TBIII that I was sent to
evaluate. It is a good glue, is beige in color, and dries to a light brown.
It appears to be water proof as it is advertised. I let a glue brush coated
in TBIII dry in the bottom of a plastic cup. The bristles pulled out of the
brush when dry and they have remained there. The cup almost always has
water in it.

JC

John Carlson

in reply to "Sasha" on 24/01/2005 12:44 PM

26/01/2005 9:11 PM

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:49:48 GMT, "Jim Giblin"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>What really sold me is the dispenser TB products comes with.
>Tilebond comes with a pull-to-open/push-to-close cover. The Elmer et. al.
>bottle has a little cap that comes off completely and I invariably winds up
>on the floor lost among the sawdust.

I prefer Elmer's for its bottle. (As far as I can tell, the glues
themselves are interchangeable.) I find that the TB cap is forever
getting clogged and I have to take it off and take it apart and clean
it out. The Elmer's cap, OTOH, never clogs and I only occasionally
drop it. I'm pretty sure that over the course of a year I spend less
time crawling around looking for the Elmer's cap that I occasionally
drop than I spend cleaning out the damn TB cap.



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JJ

in reply to John Carlson on 26/01/2005 9:11 PM

26/01/2005 9:55 PM

Wed, Jan 26, 2005, 9:11pm [email protected] (John=A0Carlson)
claims:
<snip> I find that the TB cap is forever getting clogged and I have to
take it off and take it apart and clean it out. <snip>

Huh, Titebond II is all I use, and the top has never clogged with
me. I do shut the top if I'm not using it for several minutes.
However, I have had it glue itself shut the next day with a layer of
glue, but when that happens, I just pop the dried glue off, and it's set
to go. I prefer the Titebond top.



JOAT
Some is good, more is better, too much is just enough.
- Unknown

AW

Allen Windhorn

in reply to "Sasha" on 24/01/2005 12:44 PM

26/01/2005 12:05 PM

"Sasha" <[email protected]> writes:

> I need to get a new supply of yellow glue. I have been using Elmer's
> yellow glue for last two years that I bought in local HD. I have not
> complains for it but I have little woodworking experience and didn't
> use other glues.

Frank Klausz swears by plain Elmer's white glue. I remember we used
it for a breadboard in high school wood shop, and it held up for many
years and washings (I think it got lost rather than broken). Haven't
got around to trying it myself, but I trust his opinion.

You should throw away your glue after 6 months or a year (he says,
though I'm still using up powdered Cascamite from 20 years ago. It's
a bit chunky.)

Regards,
Allen
--
Allen Windhorn (507) 345-2782 FAX (507) 345-2805
Kato Engineering (Though I do not speak for Kato)
P.O. Box 8447, N. Mankato, MN 56002
[email protected]

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"patrick conroy"

in reply to "Sasha" on 24/01/2005 12:44 PM

24/01/2005 11:48 PM


"Sasha" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> then Titlebond III. Are Titlebond II and III worth extra money? My
> workshop is in heated basement so I am gluing at ideal temperature and

Dunno. If you want a good glue at a decent price, try LocTite's WoodWorx
glues at Wal*Mart


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