On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:40:45 GMT, "Eric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>chewed up a set of jointer knives.
>
>Sux to be me.
>
Join the club.
I once recycled a factory table top, only to find 3" #8 screws inside.
The blade will someday become a clock. 8^(
Sorry for your anti-gloat.
Barry
Hi Eric,
The first time I used my brand new Porter Cable
dovetail jig (about 5 years ago), I wasn't very
careful (and somehat ignorant).
After I ran the router up & down the jig to
cut my first half-blind dovetail, I was shocked (amused?)
to see that I had also routed out some of the base
metal on the jig.
Felt like an idiot, but I never forgot the lesson about
measuring the bit depth correctly.
Fortunately the jig is still usable - as is the bit (aluminum
base I think).
Lou
In article <[email protected]>, Eric
<[email protected]> wrote:
> chewed up a set of jointer knives.
>
> Sux to be me.
>
>
Eric wrote:
> chewed up a set of jointer knives.
>
> Sux to be me.
I can top that. I made a crosscut sled with a piece of angle iron to
reinforce the fence. I thought I had rigged it all so that I wouldn't cut
into the iron, but I was very wrong. Brand new blade. Only a mid-priced
Freud, but still. "Are those sparks? Oh shit!"
I still have the piece of angle iron around here somewhere, with a nice
| V |
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cut out of it. Oops.
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Patriarch wrote:
>> reinforce the fence. I thought I had rigged it all so that I wouldn't
>> cut into the iron, but I was very wrong. Brand new blade. Only a
I should add, so I don't look like a *total* dumbass, it was a blade height
thing. At a height high enough to cut through your typical piece of 4/4
test wood, everything was perfect. The trouble came when I went to cut
something higher, cranked the blade up, and changed the equation
completely. I probably wouldn't have been stupid enough to merrily feed
the iron right into the blade at the speed I did if I hadn't been
successfully using the sled for a number of previous cuts.
> The right end of my aluminum Kreg miter jig looks pretty much the same. I
> think the blade is ready for a trip to Bay Area Carbide...
Maybe not. Actually, I bought a new blade to replace the new blade I had
just abused, and then I did some test cuts to compare the two. Admittedly,
I was using a direct drive benchtop saw with an extremely sloppy arbor at
the time, and wasn't getting the greatest of cuts anyway, but I couldn't
detect the slightest difference between the cuts. That was steel. I don't
think I'd worry about a little aluminum, unless you've nicked it numerous
times.
I took the original blade out of service anyway. It just didn't seem
prudent to take a chance on having loosened a tooth or something. Sparks
are bad, m'kay? Sigh.
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> chewed up a set of jointer knives.
>
> Sux to be me.
Get yourself something like this:
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/lumberwizard.htm
Well worth the investment.
It has saved me probably $400-$500 in potentially ruined blades so far by
finding nails I couldn't see buried with the naked eye.
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:52:25 GMT, "good ol' Bob"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I infer from your post that you have never actually used one of these
>gadgets.
I've used the orange one. Very unimpressed with it. It was prone to
false triggering so much that you had to turn the sensitivity right
down.
The quality measure for any metal detector isn't sensitivity, it's
discrimination. I'm sure these things are sensitive to detect a gnat's
fillings, but that's no use if you have to turn them down to make them
practical to use.
Andy:
I infer from your post that you have never actually used one of these
gadgets. (If I'm wrong, the following rant is meaningless.) I have owned
the Little Wizard for several years, and it has never failed me. I did
learn to adjust the sensitivity before each use while holding the thing AWAY
from anything else, like a workbench. (They hide metal parts within!!!!!)
Scan from side to side in a small S shaped pattern. When scanning, I allow
the sensing area to lightly ride on the surface of the material being
scanned. I've tested it on small paper staples imbedded in wood, like the
ones some lumber suppliers use to attach a bar code to the end of a 2X4. I
have never missed even the smallest piece of metal. Your comment on
non-metallic grit is a good one. If the wood you're using is old, dirty, or
has been used to form for concrete, common sense should prevail. Of course
it doesn't always.
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:38:49 +1000, "Woodcrafter" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Get yourself something like this:
>>http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/lumberwizard.htm
>
> You'll be doing well if one of thiose "wizards" ever spots a staple.
> Although the idea is a good one, that's a poor piece of kit to use for
> it.
>
> There's also the hazard of non-metallic grit. It's good practice to
> watch where you lay your boards, to reduce pick-up.
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Eric wrote:
>
>> chewed up a set of jointer knives.
>>
>> Sux to be me.
>
> I can top that. I made a crosscut sled with a piece of angle iron to
> reinforce the fence. I thought I had rigged it all so that I wouldn't
> cut into the iron, but I was very wrong. Brand new blade. Only a
> mid-priced Freud, but still. "Are those sparks? Oh shit!"
>
> I still have the piece of angle iron around here somewhere, with a
> nice
>
>| V |
>| |
>
> cut out of it. Oops.
>
>
The right end of my aluminum Kreg miter jig looks pretty much the same. I
think the blade is ready for a trip to Bay Area Carbide...
I'm glad my fingers are still all at factory spec.
Patriarch
Tim Douglass <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:58:17 -0500, Silvan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Maybe not. Actually, I bought a new blade to replace the new blade I
>>had just abused, and then I did some test cuts to compare the two.
>>Admittedly, I was using a direct drive benchtop saw with an extremely
>>sloppy arbor at the time, and wasn't getting the greatest of cuts
>>anyway, but I couldn't detect the slightest difference between the
>>cuts. That was steel. I don't think I'd worry about a little
>>aluminum, unless you've nicked it numerous times.
>>
<snip>
> Unless you can see a flaw on a tooth I'd go ahead and use the blade.
> If you are particularly paranoid just send it off and have it
> sharpened and checked.
>
Not paranoid. Only cautious. And it's time to take several over there
anyhow. They are not out of the way, and less than $20 tunes up a blade
better than new on their CNC tools. There are two or three ready for the
trip.
Sharp blades are safer anyhow. And I have a bunch of oak and tanoak needs
cutting.
Patriarch
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:58:17 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Maybe not. Actually, I bought a new blade to replace the new blade I had
>just abused, and then I did some test cuts to compare the two. Admittedly,
>I was using a direct drive benchtop saw with an extremely sloppy arbor at
>the time, and wasn't getting the greatest of cuts anyway, but I couldn't
>detect the slightest difference between the cuts. That was steel. I don't
>think I'd worry about a little aluminum, unless you've nicked it numerous
>times.
>
>I took the original blade out of service anyway. It just didn't seem
>prudent to take a chance on having loosened a tooth or something. Sparks
>are bad, m'kay? Sigh.
Back when I did a lot of remodeling work we would keep some old
carbide tipped circular saw blades around for cutting into things
where there might be nails or whatever. I've cut a *lot* of small
pieces of steel up to 20d nails and expanded metal lath without losing
any teeth from the blades. Sometimes they came off, but usually after
a lot of abuse. Cutting through plaster was the worst, it would
literally grind the blade down to a smooth circle with no teeth on it.
Composition roofing was next, made worse by all the tar that built up
on the blade. Point is, those things are tougher than you think.
Unless you can see a flaw on a tooth I'd go ahead and use the blade.
If you are particularly paranoid just send it off and have it
sharpened and checked.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Thank you all for your kind words of condolences.
In lieu of sending flowers, please send donations directly to me ;o)
"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:40:45 GMT, "Eric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>chewed up a set of jointer knives.
>>
>>Sux to be me.
>>
>
> Join the club.
>
> I once recycled a factory table top, only to find 3" #8 screws inside.
> The blade will someday become a clock. 8^(
>
> Sorry for your anti-gloat.
>
> Barry
I stumbled onto a new Garrett Super Scanner for $50 that I hope will
keep me from the same fate.
m
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:40:45 GMT, "Eric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>chewed up a set of jointer knives.
>
>Sux to be me.
>
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:54:42 -0600, Patriarch
<[email protected]> wrote:
>The right end of my aluminum Kreg miter jig looks pretty much the same. I
>think the blade is ready for a trip to Bay Area Carbide...
>
>I'm glad my fingers are still all at factory spec.
>
>Patriarch
I had a similar experience with my al miter thingie. Sometime later, after
some additional use of the blade, I sent the blade to Forrest for
sharpening and they said that the blade was actually in fine shape --
didn't really need much sharpening. YMMV. -- Igor
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:38:49 +1000, "Woodcrafter" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Get yourself something like this:
>http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/lumberwizard.htm
You'll be doing well if one of thiose "wizards" ever spots a staple.
Although the idea is a good one, that's a poor piece of kit to use for
it.
There's also the hazard of non-metallic grit. It's good practice to
watch where you lay your boards, to reduce pick-up.
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:52:25 GMT, "good ol' Bob" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Andy:
>
>I infer from your post that you have never actually used one of these
>gadgets. (If I'm wrong, the following rant is meaningless.) I have owned
>the Little Wizard for several years, and it has never failed me. I did
>learn to adjust the sensitivity before each use while holding the thing AWAY
>from anything else, like a workbench. (They hide metal parts within!!!!!)
>Scan from side to side in a small S shaped pattern. When scanning, I allow
>the sensing area to lightly ride on the surface of the material being
>scanned. I've tested it on small paper staples imbedded in wood, like the
>ones some lumber suppliers use to attach a bar code to the end of a 2X4. I
>have never missed even the smallest piece of metal. Your comment on
>non-metallic grit is a good one. If the wood you're using is old, dirty, or
>has been used to form for concrete, common sense should prevail. Of course
>it doesn't always.
>
goB -- FWIW, how good it is to read a politely-stated rejoinder. It takes
a few more words (verus, "listen, ass-wipe ..."), but IMO (no H) it is
worth the effort. (Also noted, you used infer when you meant ... infer.)
Keep this up and you'll ruin the whole rowdy atmosphere so many have worked
so hard to create. (insert smilie here) -- Igor
"Eric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> chewed up a set of jointer knives.
>
> Sux to be me.
Want to buy the matching set of planer blades? Cheap.
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:20:09 GMT, the inscrutable "Eric"
<[email protected]> spake:
>Thank you all for your kind words of condolences.
>
>In lieu of sending flowers, please send donations directly to me ;o)
Why? You just "inherited" a whole bunch of tool steel. Whatcha
gonna make with all of that? (Or was that Barry?)
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"Eric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> chewed up a set of jointer knives.
>
> Sux to be me.
Feels lousy, but we all do dumb things.