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"Neil Larson"

02/04/2006 7:41 PM

Drafting Table Parts

Im looking for a source for drafting table parts, I want to make my onw and
I'm finding it very difficult to find a premade table top.



This topic has 18 replies

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

02/04/2006 12:57 PM

Neil Larson wrote:
> Im looking for a source for drafting table parts, I want to make my onw and
> I'm finding it very difficult to find a premade table top.

If you're looking for a solid wood top, it'd probably be just as cheap
to buy the complete table and keep the top and hardware. If you're
going to make your own table, making a top out of 3/4" plywood on a
frame is pretty straightforward. Many people use a hollow core door
cut to size. You could veneer the top and bottom and use solid wood on
the edges if you want to make it something more pretty.

R

ds

"daclark"

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

02/04/2006 2:01 PM

Weight should be considered in selecting the table top material.
Drafting is a vigorous activity, and a light-weight table is not a joy
to work upon. In designing the table base, the question of seating is
paramount. Stool height might be considered preferable to the activity
of drafting; as you must perceive with the eye to articulate with the
hand, stepping forward for the birdseye view is necessary over a large
board surface.
For a three foot by four foot tabletop, two pieces of 3/4 high-density
particle board laminated together with a wood edgeband adds up to about
thrity-five pounds. A professional board cover on top of that makes an
excellent drawing surface.
Making your own parallel rule or drafting machine has the prospect of
an interesting project. Care to try that?

ds

"daclark"

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

02/04/2006 2:14 PM

oops...about seventy-five pounds.

Cs

"CW"

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

04/04/2006 3:13 AM

Or, preferably, something better.

"Steve DeMars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> . . Get AutoCAD .>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

02/04/2006 10:09 PM


"Neil Larson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Im looking for a source for drafting table parts, I want to make my onw
> and I'm finding it very difficult to find a premade table top.


Have you checked with a used office furniture store?

Ss

Sailaway

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

03/04/2006 5:52 PM

Tom wrote:
>I'm in Atlanta and have found several old ones.

>The last one I had was 4 X 6 made out of ash. It weigh a ton and it
>came with a drafting head, Had 16 draws. I put a rubber mat on it
>that cost more than the table. It was like new.
>I have given it to my nephew who actually drays buildings on it.
>
>For the last 12 years I do everything in Corel Draw
>
>Larry


On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:41:05 GMT, "Neil Larson"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>>Im looking for a source for drafting table parts, I want to make my
onw and
>>I'm finding it very difficult to find a premade table top.

I also have a 4'x6' (if memory serves) drafting table. The base appears
to be oak but have no idea what the top is made of. It was made to have
2 drawers, but I have only the small drawer. The rubber mat is lifted a
little on one corner near the top, but could be glued down. If your
interested in buying it I'll let it go cheap just to see it gets used. I
have no room for it. Located in NJ

SD

"Steve DeMars"

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

03/04/2006 2:42 AM

I worked on AutoCAD for fifteen plus years . . . contact engineering houses
near you . . . most want someone to haul them away . . I've had three and
have done that with all . . . Get AutoCAD . . . it save a lot of space . .
the only thing a full size drafting table is good for is reading the
newspaper on . . .





"Neil Larson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Im looking for a source for drafting table parts, I want to make my onw
and
> I'm finding it very difficult to find a premade table top.
>
>
>

Bm

"Bugs"

in reply to "Steve DeMars" on 03/04/2006 2:42 AM

03/04/2006 5:40 AM

I'm with Lare S! Thirty five years on a drafting table I designed
countless public works facilities. The creative process flows onto the
paper naturally. At the very least a drafting table is best to make
preliminary conceptual sketches and mathematical analysis of projects.
Now, with two displaced vertebrae in my neck I must use CAD but it
ain't the same.
Hollow core doors and some 2X4's and 1X4's make a very neat folding
table for field offices. Notch the 1X4's for sloped and horizontal
positions. I've made a number of them.
Bugs

ds

"daclark"

in reply to "Steve DeMars" on 03/04/2006 2:42 AM

03/04/2006 7:22 AM

Charles Gwathney, a world renowned architect, told Charlie Rose one
night, that in order to achieve design, you have to perceive with the
eye and articulate with the hand. He went on to agree that CAD was a
valuable tool for layering out a multiple-storied building, but was
adamant, that CAD is not a creative tool, merely functionary to the
process.
Tom Brokaw, in a commencement speech, said that technology has let us
down. The technology, which was designed to free man from his
drudgery, had actually enslaved him.
Mechanical drafting skill endows the individual with a proprietary
sense of proportion and scale, and man remains the greatest technology.
Plus, the drawing board is good for reading the newspaper on...

aL

in reply to "Steve DeMars" on 03/04/2006 2:42 AM

03/04/2006 3:22 AM

Steve said "get Auto-Cad, drafting tables are only good to read
newspapers on." I beg to differ!. I was "on the board" for 35 years
before CAD as a mechanical draftsman/designer/engineer. CAD is
absolutely necessary these days for speed, accuracy, change, etc. but
it's a totally impersonal, robotic tool that stifles the mind, steals
creativity and pride-of-accomplishment, It THINKS for you! Today it's
just a job, not fun. How many people can, with their own two hands and
eyes, draw a precise angle or a radius, strike a circle, use a French
curve, read a scale, use decimals, understand the Metric system, handle
delicate instruments and print legibly?
Who needs it you ask? Well I for one find it very calming and relaxing
to have a little nook where I can use some non-printer paper, not push a
gadget around and not touch a key except on a mini calculator, but most
of all, I do not have to sit and stare at an electronic display telling
me what to do next. I do what I want to do.
And best of all, it's cheap!!

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Steve DeMars" on 03/04/2006 2:42 AM

04/04/2006 2:46 PM


"Lare S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve said "get Auto-Cad, drafting tables are only good to read
> newspapers on." I beg to differ!. I was "on the board" for 35 years
> before CAD as a mechanical draftsman/designer/engineer. CAD is
> absolutely necessary these days for speed, accuracy, change, etc. but
> it's a totally impersonal, robotic tool that stifles the mind, steals
> creativity and pride-of-accomplishment, It THINKS for you! Today it's
> just a job, not fun. How many people can, with their own two hands and
> eyes, draw a precise angle or a radius, strike a circle, use a French
> curve, read a scale, use decimals, understand the Metric system, handle
> delicate instruments and print legibly?

I can. ;~) but then I started out on the drawing board also. It is cool
when a fellow draftsman recognises that you draw by looking at you printing
or visa versa. I never made drafting my profession but was good enough in
school that I won several awards in college competition.
That said, I am self taught on CAD and consider it to be no more of a crutch
than a t-square or triangles or GASP, a Mini Calculator. It is simply a
differnt kind of tool. Like anything else you have to get used to it.


Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Steve DeMars" on 03/04/2006 2:42 AM

04/04/2006 2:49 PM


"Steve DeMars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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. I don't know
> what version of AutoCAD you worked on, but it never did any thinking for
> me


Me neither. It only accurately reflected what I had to say.

SD

"Steve DeMars"

in reply to "Steve DeMars" on 03/04/2006 2:42 AM

03/04/2006 9:51 AM

After re-thinking this, you are right, when I want to design something, I
turn to the paper FIRST also ! ! !

But to create drawings with accurate dimensions and details, you can not
touch CAD.

"daclark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Charles Gwathney, a world renowned architect, told Charlie Rose one
> night, that in order to achieve design, you have to perceive with the
> eye and articulate with the hand. He went on to agree that CAD was a
> valuable tool for layering out a multiple-storied building, but was
> adamant, that CAD is not a creative tool, merely functionary to the
> process.
> Tom Brokaw, in a commencement speech, said that technology has let us
> down. The technology, which was designed to free man from his
> drudgery, had actually enslaved him.
> Mechanical drafting skill endows the individual with a proprietary
> sense of proportion and scale, and man remains the greatest technology.
> Plus, the drawing board is good for reading the newspaper on...
>

gL

in reply to "Steve DeMars" on 03/04/2006 9:51 AM

04/04/2006 2:07 AM

My good fellows,
I did state that CAD is absolutely necessary in today's high-pressure
world.of design and development. However, I wasn't referring to that
work environment, where there's seldom time to do it right but always
time to do it over. CAD wins big-time there!
I was talking about my own projects in my little home-shop where I CAN
take my time and do it right. I enjoy drafting. I do not own a PC but if
I did, I'd probably go with CAD ____
But still at a nice, relaxing pace.
Thanks for your comments ... Super group!
LareS
BTW, I believe the old, old-time board tops were basswood. Nice drawing
surface AND you could easily stick tacks in 'em. Then the big boards;
plywood coverd with battleship linoleum, then there was a thinner vinyl
cover secured with double-sided tape. Of course there was always the
Hamilton boards with a factory-finished top.

SD

"Steve DeMars"

in reply to "Steve DeMars" on 03/04/2006 2:42 AM

03/04/2006 9:21 AM

Sorry, but they wouldn't not pay us $35.00 to $ 65.00 an hour to be calm and
relaxed . . .

I worked as an Instrumentation & Electrical Designer for the PetroChem
Industry . . .

I owned and worked on a board, also worked on AutoCAD . . . I don't know
what version of AutoCAD you worked on, but it never did any thinking for me
. . .


"Lare S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve said "get Auto-Cad, drafting tables are only good to read
> newspapers on." I beg to differ!. I was "on the board" for 35 years
> before CAD as a mechanical draftsman/designer/engineer. CAD is
> absolutely necessary these days for speed, accuracy, change, etc. but
> it's a totally impersonal, robotic tool that stifles the mind, steals
> creativity and pride-of-accomplishment, It THINKS for you! Today it's
> just a job, not fun. How many people can, with their own two hands and
> eyes, draw a precise angle or a radius, strike a circle, use a French
> curve, read a scale, use decimals, understand the Metric system, handle
> delicate instruments and print legibly?
> Who needs it you ask? Well I for one find it very calming and relaxing
> to have a little nook where I can use some non-printer paper, not push a
> gadget around and not touch a key except on a mini calculator, but most
> of all, I do not have to sit and stare at an electronic display telling
> me what to do next. I do what I want to do.
> And best of all, it's cheap!!
>

tl

tom

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

03/04/2006 10:24 AM

I'm in Atlanta and have found several old ones.

The last one I had was 4 X 6 made out of ash. It weigh a ton and it
came with a drafting head, Had 16 draws. I put a rubber mat on it
that cost more than the table. It was like new.
I have given it to my nephew who actually drays buildings on it.

For the last 12 years I do everything in Corel Draw

Larry


On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:41:05 GMT, "Neil Larson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Im looking for a source for drafting table parts, I want to make my onw and
>I'm finding it very difficult to find a premade table top.
>
>

FA

"Frank Arthur"

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

02/04/2006 6:05 PM

Search Google for Drafting Tables.
Contact the manufacturers or suppliers for parts.

"Neil Larson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Im looking for a source for drafting table parts, I want to make my onw
> and I'm finding it very difficult to find a premade table top.
>
>
>

GT

"Gooey TARBALLS"

in reply to "Neil Larson" on 02/04/2006 7:41 PM

02/04/2006 10:22 PM

http://www.taunton.com/FWN/Workshop/WorkshopPDF.aspx?id=24952

Plans for a table.

http://www.rockler.com/findit.cfm?page=790

Drafting table parts [Adjustable Drafting Table Hardware]



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> Im looking for a source for drafting table parts, I want to make my onw
> and I'm finding it very difficult to find a premade table top.
>
>
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