I'm looking for Bandsaw, and teetering back and forth between a 17 in.
Grizzly (G0513), and the 14 inch. (G0555). Looking strictly at company
literature, the 17 inch. sounds like a do it all saw (at least for me). But
reading a review in American Woodworker, the 17 in. receives a less than
favorable rating when using smaller blades, given that the saw comes
equipped with European style disc guides. The article states these are
difficult to adjust correctly for smaller blade sizes. Checked out the
Lonnie Bird - Bandsaw book from the library, and it states that European
style disc guides are the easiest to adjust. In some ways, it seems the
more information received the tougher my choice becomes.
Re-sawing is something I'll only do once in a while, but I'm the type who
likes having tools that are open to the possibilities. The impression I
have thus far, is that the 14 in. would actually be better for misc. smaller
work, while the 17 in. will be much better at re-sawing larger stock, and
perhaps less accurate and more difficult to use on smaller pieces. If the
14 in. is purchased, that would come with the riser block as well. Any
thoughts?
Does anyone here have experience using the larger 17 in. saw with smaller
blades, say ¼ in, and if so would you please share your thoughts, on the
Euro disc guides?
Thanks,
Dave
Links to both saws:
http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/067.cfm?
http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/064.cfm?
"Cox West" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Re-sawing is something I'll only do once in a while, but I'm the type who
> likes having tools that are open to the possibilities. The impression I
> have thus far, is that the 14 in. would actually be better for misc.
smaller
> work, while the 17 in. will be much better at re-sawing larger stock, and
> perhaps less accurate and more difficult to use on smaller pieces. If the
> 14 in. is purchased, that would come with the riser block as well. Any
> thoughts?
>
>
>
> Does anyone here have experience using the larger 17 in. saw with smaller
> blades, say ¼ in, and if so would you please share your thoughts, on the
> Euro disc guides?
>
I would always go with the bigger saw if you have the space, and there isn't
much difference in the footprint between a 17" and a 14".
I've used euro stye guides, radial bearing guides, composites and even
greased hardwood, IMO the composites win every time. My experience with the
euro guide is that with the narrower blade it runs at the very periphery of
the discs and there is sufficient play (after a few hours running) to
deflect about the centre of rotation until limited by the back edge of disc
contacting the opposing side.
In general the bigger saw gives you much more versatility, I've used a 3/16"
blade on a 24" saw with no problems, the advantage of the larger saw is, all
other things being equal, the more robust construction allows greater
tension on wider blades; generally the limiting factor on blade width is
whether you can get sufficient tension on the thing.
BernardR
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Links to both saws:
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/067.cfm?
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/064.cfm?
>
>
>
>
I bought the G0555 and found it difficult to adjust the guides. Called
Grizzly and ordered the guide assembly that uses the blocks instead of the
rollers. It works fine now and I've been largly happy with it. Doing it
all over again, I'd probably go with the G0513 simply because I do re-sawing
more than I thought I would. Interesting point about the small blades
(which I use quite a bit too) and if that's true, I'm glad I have what I do.
Don
"Cox West" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ordered the 14 inch. (G0555).
>
> For my use, I'm thinking the 14 in. with riser should suffice. If bigger
> is better, bigger will be an 8 in. Grizzly jointer (instead of the 6) -
> should everything go smoothly with this order.
>
> Dave
>
>
> "Cox West" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:YdIqd.368275$a85.265075@fed1read04...
>> I'm looking for Bandsaw, and teetering back and forth between a 17 in.
>> Grizzly (G0513), and the 14 inch. (G0555). Looking strictly at company
>> literature, the 17 inch. sounds like a do it all saw (at least for me).
>> But reading a review in American Woodworker, the 17 in. receives a less
>> than favorable rating when using smaller blades, given that the saw comes
>> equipped with European style disc guides. The article states these are
>> difficult to adjust correctly for smaller blade sizes. Checked out the
>> Lonnie Bird - Bandsaw book from the library, and it states that European
>> style disc guides are the easiest to adjust. In some ways, it seems the
>> more information received the tougher my choice becomes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Re-sawing is something I'll only do once in a while, but I'm the type who
>> likes having tools that are open to the possibilities. The impression I
>> have thus far, is that the 14 in. would actually be better for misc.
>> smaller work, while the 17 in. will be much better at re-sawing larger
>> stock, and perhaps less accurate and more difficult to use on smaller
>> pieces. If the 14 in. is purchased, that would come with the riser block
>> as well. Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone here have experience using the larger 17 in. saw with smaller
>> blades, say ¼ in, and if so would you please share your thoughts, on the
>> Euro disc guides?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> Links to both saws:
>>
>> http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/067.cfm?
>>
>> http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/064.cfm?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Ordered the 14 inch. (G0555).
For my use, I'm thinking the 14 in. with riser should suffice. If bigger is
better, bigger will be an 8 in. Grizzly jointer (instead of the 6) - should
everything go smoothly with this order.
Dave
"Cox West" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:YdIqd.368275$a85.265075@fed1read04...
> I'm looking for Bandsaw, and teetering back and forth between a 17 in.
> Grizzly (G0513), and the 14 inch. (G0555). Looking strictly at company
> literature, the 17 inch. sounds like a do it all saw (at least for me).
> But reading a review in American Woodworker, the 17 in. receives a less
> than favorable rating when using smaller blades, given that the saw comes
> equipped with European style disc guides. The article states these are
> difficult to adjust correctly for smaller blade sizes. Checked out the
> Lonnie Bird - Bandsaw book from the library, and it states that European
> style disc guides are the easiest to adjust. In some ways, it seems the
> more information received the tougher my choice becomes.
>
>
>
> Re-sawing is something I'll only do once in a while, but I'm the type who
> likes having tools that are open to the possibilities. The impression I
> have thus far, is that the 14 in. would actually be better for misc.
> smaller work, while the 17 in. will be much better at re-sawing larger
> stock, and perhaps less accurate and more difficult to use on smaller
> pieces. If the 14 in. is purchased, that would come with the riser block
> as well. Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Does anyone here have experience using the larger 17 in. saw with smaller
> blades, say ¼ in, and if so would you please share your thoughts, on the
> Euro disc guides?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Links to both saws:
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/067.cfm?
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/064.cfm?
>
>
>
>
Don, what was the cost on that?
After reading what I have about guides, it might be worth checking out.
Dave
"D. J. Dorn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I bought the G0555 and found it difficult to adjust the guides. Called
>Grizzly and ordered the guide assembly that uses the blocks instead of the
>rollers. It works fine now and I've been largly happy with it. Doing it
>all over again, I'd probably go with the G0513 simply because I do
>re-sawing more than I thought I would. Interesting point about the small
>blades (which I use quite a bit too) and if that's true, I'm glad I have
>what I do.
>
> Don
>
> "Cox West" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:dhosd.391264$a85.156393@fed1read04...
>> Ordered the 14 inch. (G0555).
>>
>> For my use, I'm thinking the 14 in. with riser should suffice. If bigger
>> is better, bigger will be an 8 in. Grizzly jointer (instead of the 6) -
>> should everything go smoothly with this order.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> "Cox West" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:YdIqd.368275$a85.265075@fed1read04...
>>> I'm looking for Bandsaw, and teetering back and forth between a 17 in.
>>> Grizzly (G0513), and the 14 inch. (G0555). Looking strictly at company
>>> literature, the 17 inch. sounds like a do it all saw (at least for me).
>>> But reading a review in American Woodworker, the 17 in. receives a less
>>> than favorable rating when using smaller blades, given that the saw
>>> comes equipped with European style disc guides. The article states
>>> these are difficult to adjust correctly for smaller blade sizes.
>>> Checked out the Lonnie Bird - Bandsaw book from the library, and it
>>> states that European style disc guides are the easiest to adjust. In
>>> some ways, it seems the more information received the tougher my choice
>>> becomes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Re-sawing is something I'll only do once in a while, but I'm the type
>>> who likes having tools that are open to the possibilities. The
>>> impression I have thus far, is that the 14 in. would actually be better
>>> for misc. smaller work, while the 17 in. will be much better at
>>> re-sawing larger stock, and perhaps less accurate and more difficult to
>>> use on smaller pieces. If the 14 in. is purchased, that would come with
>>> the riser block as well. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone here have experience using the larger 17 in. saw with
>>> smaller blades, say ¼ in, and if so would you please share your
>>> thoughts, on the Euro disc guides?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Links to both saws:
>>>
>>> http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/067.cfm?
>>>
>>> http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2004/064.cfm?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:36:05 -0500, "Cox West" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Does anyone here have experience using the larger 17 in. saw with smaller
>blades, say ¼ in, and if so would you please share your thoughts, on the
>Euro disc guides?
Go bigger.
Disk guides _may_ suck with small blades, it depends on the amount of
backlash you have (probably enough to be annoying).
For small blades, use Cool Blocks, not disks or bearings. It should be
possible to arrange some sort of alternative guide holder to suit.