An article appeared in Sunday's paper about 600 acres of old growth
forest being found along a six mile stretch of the Zoar Valley, about
30 miles south of Buffalo. I've been told that some of the trees are
100 to 150 foot tall. Here's a link to a web site with information:
http://www.citizenscampaign.org/campaigns/zoar.htm
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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
Myxylplyk wrote:
> Jack,
> Very interesting!
> I don't see how 250 - 500 year old trees are virgin forrest, but very interesting all the
> same.
What are the natural life span of maples, hemlocks, red oaks, etc.?
> Let's sharpen up the chain saws and go visit!
I'm guilty, the thought did cross my mind.
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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
I ski through an area that burned in 1911 or so, and every time I pass one
of those 4' + diameter black cherry trees I begin calculating board feet.
What works for me is the "fox and grapes" approach. They're probably all
brown-rotted inside anyway....
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Myxylplyk wrote:
> > Let's sharpen up the chain saws and go visit!
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> I'm guilty, the thought did cross my mind.
>
Jack,
Very interesting!
I don't see how 250 - 500 year old trees are virgin forrest, but very interesting all the
same.
Let's sharpen up the chain saws and go visit!
;)
Myx
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> An article appeared in Sunday's paper about 600 acres of old growth
> forest being found along a six mile stretch of the Zoar Valley, about
> 30 miles south of Buffalo. I've been told that some of the trees are
> 100 to 150 foot tall. Here's a link to a web site with information:
>
> http://www.citizenscampaign.org/campaigns/zoar.htm
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
>
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Charlie,
What happened to your sense of humor?
Do I really need to explain the humor of a 250-500 year old virgin?
BTW- The chainsaw was to "remove" the virginity. Sort of popping a forrests cherry.
;)
Myx
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Charlie Self
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> "Men willingly believe what they wish."
> Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico
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How is that Bird house book coming along Charlie?
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico
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On 09 Sep 2003 08:50:15 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
pixelated:
>Leon asks:
>
>>How is that Bird house book coming along Charlie?
>
>Slow. Remember, I just spent 10 weeks out of the house, with NO shop at all
>available (it is currently full of stuff that needs to be elsewhere in the
>house, which may take a couple more weeks).
OhmyBuddha! You're moving again so soon? Condolences, but
I'm sure you're packin' a lot less than you did last time.
Moving sure rids you of the packrat syndrome in a hurry.
>I'm also checking out changing from QuarkXpress to Publisher, which will slow
>things even more. I'd guess it will be out in time for the next breeding
>season, but we will put this house up for sale in a couple weeks, and then...
You have GOT to be freakin' KIDDING ME! A client recently bought
and sent a copy of Pub98 to me and it's even worse than I had
remembered. Thank Bog she only paid $20 for it (it's not worth
that) and that I'm only using it to look at her site mock-ups.
What could possibly move you to any MS product from a time-tested
book-capable product and industry standard? And why not PageMaker
(my old standard), InDesign, or FrameMaker?!? Although I hate
Adobe, they make good products. Pub98 is absolutely horrid.
G'luck with the newer version of MSP should you make that choice.
Ick!
>Everything is moving too slow except my age...
That creeps up faster than we can perceive, dunnit?
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Charlie Self wrote:
> without a client to back it up. I'm not about to stay broke replicating
> programs unless I have a real need.
Might look into what, if anything, is available as Open Source. All the
other considerations on both sides of the equation aside, it sure is nice
being rid of that $300+ a shot upgrade syndrome.
I know Open Office is available for Windows, but I don't know about DTP
stuff on any platform. It's not something I've ever needed to do.
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On 09 Sep 2003 15:32:05 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
> I'd love to find an OLD version of Pagemaker to try
>out. But I'm not putting that kind of money into a program again without a
>client to back it up. I'm not about to stay broke replicating programs unless I
>have a real need.
There's a thirty day trial version available for download at the Adobe
website.
I've always had good luck buying older versions of software (in
unopened boxes) at computer shows and then, if I like them, taking
advantage of the upgrade pricing for the current version.
That's how I got Photoshop cheap and AutoCad, too.
BTW - I've used MS Publisher for years and find it to be very easy to
use. I've no idea how it fits in with professional level
requirements.
Regards, Tom.
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
On 09 Sep 2003 15:32:05 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
pixelated:
>Mine was part of the package, or something like that. In truth, it's one
>helluva lot easier to use than QXP.
Sure, 39 half-usable functions compared to 4,785 fully-usable
functions. Much easier. ;)
>Got the GXP to meet a client's needs some years ago. Don't really like it, but
I found QXP non-intuitive while I found PM much nicer to work
with. I've also done some CAD-type work in Corel Draw when I
wanted to show a church what their revised lectern would look
like eons ago. I downsized it due to water damage. <--obww
>it's OK for tool manuals. I'd love to find an OLD version of Pagemaker to try
>out. But I'm not putting that kind of money into a program again without a
>client to back it up. I'm not about to stay broke replicating programs unless I
>have a real need.
I got my Adobe products cheap as a dealer but they tossed us
out and refused to discount any upgrades or future purchases.
Effem all! I love PageMaker and have a love/hate relationship
with PhotoShop. (I haven't used a computer yet whose graphics
card could entirely get along with it.)
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"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon asks:
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> >How is that Bird house book coming along Charlie?
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> Slow. Remember, I just spent 10 weeks out of the house, with NO shop at
all
> available (it is currently full of stuff that needs to be elsewhere in the
> house, which may take a couple more weeks).
>
Oh yeah.,.. you had that unexpected BBQ and then got sick too IIRC.. ;~(
> I'm also checking out changing from QuarkXpress to Publisher, which will
slow
> things even more. I'd guess it will be out in time for the next breeding
> season, but we will put this house up for sale in a couple weeks, and
then...
>
> Everything is moving too slow except my age...
Good Luck...Keep us posted..
Leon asks:
>How is that Bird house book coming along Charlie?
Slow. Remember, I just spent 10 weeks out of the house, with NO shop at all
available (it is currently full of stuff that needs to be elsewhere in the
house, which may take a couple more weeks).
I'm also checking out changing from QuarkXpress to Publisher, which will slow
things even more. I'd guess it will be out in time for the next breeding
season, but we will put this house up for sale in a couple weeks, and then...
Everything is moving too slow except my age...
Charlie Self
"Men willingly believe what they wish."
Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico
Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> Everything is moving too slow except my age...
> Ain't THAT the truth! I'm 22, but my body is 66 :-).
FINALLY. Someone younger than me. So it's MY turn to say, "Boy, you don't
know anything about feeling bad. Just wait until you're my age."
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Everything is moving too slow except my age...
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> Charlie Self
>
Ain't THAT the truth! I'm 22, but my body is 66 :-).
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"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Myx writes:
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> >Very interesting!
> >I don't see how 250 - 500 year old trees are virgin forrest, but very
> >interesting all the
> >same.
>
> Don't know much about trees, do you?
>
I think he meant that a tree that old would surely have had sex at least
once
Frank
Frank Ketchum writes:
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>> >Very interesting!
>> >I don't see how 250 - 500 year old trees are virgin forrest, but very
>> >interesting all the
>> >same.
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>> Don't know much about trees, do you?
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>I think he meant that a tree that old would surely have had sex at least
>once
>
You'e probably right. And remember, silver maples do it with helicopters.
Charlie Self
"Men willingly believe what they wish."
Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico
Jon Endres, PE wrote:
> <snip>
> (how can you be a woodworker and be a
> tree-hugger too?)
> <snip>
By buying wood only from managed, sustainable-growth forests.
By _not_ buying exotic import wood from contries where forests are in danger.
By never wasting the scraps.
Chris
woodworker/treehugger
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Jon Endres, PE wrote:
> I'm certainly no tree hugger (how can you be a woodworker and be a
> tree-hugger too?), but I'm pretty careful about what I cut and why. Any
I'm a woodworker, and a treehugger. It's sort of like being Hindu and
loving to eat hamburgers.
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