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"Arvid"

23/06/2006 3:41 PM

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"Arvid"

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

23/06/2006 6:17 PM

Thanks but I am using water based Polyurethane I will try the lacqure.
"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Arvid wrote:
>> I am building my retirement home at the lake and am using poplar
>> tongue and grove to sheet the walls and cieling. The wood has very
>> decorative grain so I would like to apply a non yellowing finish.
>> everything I have tried has darkened the wood. Any suggestions?
>
> I'd use a water based acrylic lacquer or polyurethane.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]
> (Remove -SPAM- to send email)

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"Arvid"

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

24/06/2006 10:19 AM

Thanks to all, I think I will try the sealer. I have used the white paint
procedure many years ago at that time it was refered to as blonding. Thanks
again for all replys.
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> dadiOH wrote:
>> Arvid wrote:
>>> I am building my retirement home at the lake and am using poplar
>>> tongue and grove to sheet the walls and cieling. The wood has very
>>> decorative grain so I would like to apply a non yellowing finish.
>>> everything I have tried has darkened the wood. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Anything will darken the wood...the water based products will darken
>> it the least. You can markedly reduce the darkening by wiping on a
>> very thin coat of white oil paint - about 50% paint, 50% thinner -
>> and then wiping off all you can before applying the clear topcoat.
>
> Need I say that if you use a water based top coat you'd have to let the
> oil
> paint dry first? Not so if an oil based topcoat is used. One can also
> use
> thinned water base paint first but it is much harder to apply and remove.
> Alternatively, one could use a clear acrylic sealer such as Seal-Krete to
> prevent topcoat absorption.
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
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"Arvid"

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

25/06/2006 8:17 PM

Well what I have is all local(North Sask Canada)wood from a little local
mill. bought in the ruff cut state and planed and shaped by me. I have
Poplar for the walls and cieling, Tamerac for the floors and I did the
bathroom in pine.I chose the poplar because of it's uneak knots and spalding
(I think that is what you call the coloring)and yet overall it is much
whiter that the pine. I guess I will experiment a room at a time untill I
get what I want.
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Let me guess, his brother sells poplar.
>
> "RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:4mFng.20348$FR1.19723@dukeread05...
>
> > The
>> architect also specified the source for the poplar.
>>
>>
>
>

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

24/06/2006 1:16 PM

Arvid wrote:
> I am building my retirement home at the lake and am using poplar
> tongue and grove to sheet the walls and cieling. The wood has very
> decorative grain so I would like to apply a non yellowing finish.
> everything I have tried has darkened the wood. Any suggestions?

Anything will darken the wood...the water based products will darken it the
least. You can markedly reduce the darkening by wiping on a very thin coat
of white oil paint - about 50% paint, 50% thinner - and then wiping off all
you can before applying the clear topcoat. The paint prevents penetration
of the topcoat which is what causes the darkening. Poplar will
darken/yellow all by itself over time.

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"RonB"

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

25/06/2006 6:53 PM

> You probably have a problem.
>
> There is a reason poplar is known by some as "paint wood".


Not necessarily. Some poplar has very nice grain pattern and judging by
Arvids comment he might have some of it in his retirement home. My son is a
job superintendent for a commercial construction company. He built an
office building in Bentonville Arkansas a year or so ago and the architect
specified poplar with a dark stain and laquer finish for the trim in the
main conference room and the executive office. He and I both questioned it
but when the finishers completed the job it looked first class. The
architect also specified the source for the poplar.

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

24/06/2006 2:50 AM

Arvid wrote:

> I am building my retirement home at the lake and am using poplar
>tongue and grove to sheet the walls and cieling. The wood has very
>decorative grain so I would like to apply a non yellowing finish.
>everything I have tried has darkened the wood. Any suggestions?

You probably have a problem.

There is a reason poplar is known by some as "paint wood".

Lew

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

26/06/2006 12:11 AM

Let me guess, his brother sells poplar.

"RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The
> architect also specified the source for the poplar.
>
>

RP

"R. Pierce Butler"

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

24/06/2006 1:11 PM

Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote in news:7M1ng.348$NP4.226
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

> Arvid wrote:
>
> > I am building my retirement home at the lake and am using poplar
> >tongue and grove to sheet the walls and cieling. The wood has very
> >decorative grain so I would like to apply a non yellowing finish.
> >everything I have tried has darkened the wood. Any suggestions?
>
> You probably have a problem.
>
> There is a reason poplar is known by some as "paint wood".
>
> Lew
>

I have a few pieces of furniture made from poplar and have made shelves from
poplar and it is quite nice. I stained and finished the wood and I think it
looks good.

nn

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

23/06/2006 8:05 PM

Arvid wrote:
> I am building my retirement home at the lake and am using poplar
> tongue and grove to sheet the walls and cieling. The wood has very
> decorative grain so I would like to apply a non yellowing finish.
> everything I have tried has darkened the wood. Any suggestions?

I'd use a water based acrylic lacquer or polyurethane.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
(Remove -SPAM- to send email)

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "Arvid" on 23/06/2006 3:41 PM

24/06/2006 3:50 PM

dadiOH wrote:
> Arvid wrote:
>> I am building my retirement home at the lake and am using poplar
>> tongue and grove to sheet the walls and cieling. The wood has very
>> decorative grain so I would like to apply a non yellowing finish.
>> everything I have tried has darkened the wood. Any suggestions?
>
> Anything will darken the wood...the water based products will darken
> it the least. You can markedly reduce the darkening by wiping on a
> very thin coat of white oil paint - about 50% paint, 50% thinner -
> and then wiping off all you can before applying the clear topcoat.

Need I say that if you use a water based top coat you'd have to let the oil
paint dry first? Not so if an oil based topcoat is used. One can also use
thinned water base paint first but it is much harder to apply and remove.
Alternatively, one could use a clear acrylic sealer such as Seal-Krete to
prevent topcoat absorption.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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