The doorbell rang a few minutes ago and I heard the thump of a package
on the porch. By the time got to the door, the UPS was already at his
truck and there on the porch lie 4 NAKED 82" clamps! The sole box was
for the 24" free Bessey. WTF! Fearing the worse (yes, I'm a
pessimist), I drag them into the shop for inspection, thinking I'll need
to find the 1-800 number for Amazon's customer service. I inspect one
clamp...seems ok. Not bent. hmmm...whatever...look at the next
one...yeah, it's fine. Now my luck can't hold out for the next two can
it?? Inspect the third clamp...straight, undamaged. Amazing! Now I
KNOW the last clamp has got to be damaged, somehow. Look it over.
sigh. it's ok too. WTF! The last couple of tool shipments I've
received have been BEAT TO FRICKIN' HELL AND BACK, and these suckers
made it unscathed WITHOUT BEING BOXED UP??
It's a topsy turvy world.
And you guys that felt bad that Amazon wasted money on packaging can
relax, knowing they puffed up their bottom line a bit by skimping on the
packaging for my clamps. <g>
This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
Dave
David wrote:
> The doorbell rang a few minutes ago and I heard the thump of a package
> on the porch. By the time got to the door, the UPS was already at his
> truck and there on the porch lie 4 NAKED 82" clamps! The sole box was
> for the 24" free Bessey....
> received have been BEAT TO FRICKIN' HELL AND BACK, and these suckers
> made it unscathed WITHOUT BEING BOXED UP??
>
That you received them unboxed does not mean that they were sent
unboxed.
It may well be that the box they were in was so badly beat up the
driver
simply left it in the truck.
--
FF
Ba r r y wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:07:26 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >The shipping labels were dusty and worn and were attached to bubble wrap
> >around the handles. they were SHIPPED w/o boxes. I've never seen a
> >shipping label attached to an item INSIDE a box.
>
> Four of my clamps were shipped in something resembling Sonotube.
>
> 3 of 4 of them had only TAPE as end caps, and the bar of the clamp
> broke through. In other words, I got three 4 foot tubes with 4 feet
> of clamp sticking out one end. <G>
>
> The (6) 24 inchers were in individual boxes. 5 of 6 broke out of the
> corner of the box.
>
> Two of ten have broken black plastic ends.
>
> Barry
Yesterday I received the first of 6 Bessey Clamps I ordered...
Or actualy, the 6 foot long EMPTY sonotube
that may or may not have contained a clamp at
one time. That's right. Completely empty.
Heavy secure white plastic cap on one end of the tube.
Absolutely nothing on the other end of the tube,
and absolutely empty.
Called Amazon and in minutes spoke with a nice woman
who apologized and said that they would send out a
replacement by 2-day service.
The other 5 clamps are scheduled to be delivered today.
Larry
You should have seen the welder I got from Amazon. It was a refurb, and
had been placed into a box without packing material (presumably by the
manufacturer). The thing should have been screwed to a pallet, but was
just floating around in this box.
It was a total mess. I got them to send out a new one, and it was in
even worse shape. So I pulled all the best undamaged parts together to
make one clean and new one, assembled the really messed up one, and
sent it back.
I wouldn't have put up with it if it wasn't such an outstanding deal.
225A Campbell Hausfeld stick welder for $119. Amazon ended up crediting
me $25 for my troubles, and the unit I kept looks brand new now (they
both worked fine). Great entry-level welder, lots of power.
In article <[email protected]>,
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>"David" wrote in message
>
>> This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>
>Just stopped by the house and there were five boxes were stacked so high I
>couldn't even get in the front door ... and there is 8 x 30 of porch to
>choose from.
>
>Took 30 minutes just to get rid of the boxes and bubble wrap ... the MBA
>mentality personified in shipping method.
>
>But now the REAL angst rears its ugly head ... an uneven number of clamps!
>Is there a twelve step program?
Nah. For _that_ situation, it's "eleven +1" steps. <evil grin>
Gary in Virginia wrote:
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> <snipped good reading>
>
>>This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
> Six of the eight clamps I ordered showed up today. Each one was packaged
> and shipped individually in a very expensive (approximately 6"x48") heavy
> duty shipping tube. There was no bubble packing or anything else in there
> so they just banged around inside. Now I have 6 large shipping tubes to
> dispose of. Maybe I can sell them on Ebay as short concrete pillar forms.
> ;)
>
> Gary in Virginia
>
>
Mine shipped from Phoenix. where did yours come from?
Dave
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:33:30 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>The doorbell rang a few minutes ago and I heard the thump of a package
>on the porch. By the time got to the door, the UPS was already at his
>truck and there on the porch lie 4 NAKED 82" clamps! The sole box was
>for the 24" free Bessey.
<snip>
Dave... Besseys are like cocaine, gods way of saying you have too much
disposable income...
you know you suck, right? *lol*
I'll just so back in my cave and use my harbor Fright clamps and sulk...
Mac
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm
"noonenparticular" wrote in message
> Swing,
>
> I've an uneven number of Bessy's too. Send me one of yours to be sure the
> earth continues to rotate on its proper axis.
LOL ... " A woodworker near here passed away recently. When he died, he had
17 Bessey clamps. In his will, he had left 1/2 of those to his oldest son,
1/3 to his middle son, and 1/9 to his youngest son ...
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 12/13/05
mac davis wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:33:30 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>The doorbell rang a few minutes ago and I heard the thump of a package
>>on the porch. By the time got to the door, the UPS was already at his
>>truck and there on the porch lie 4 NAKED 82" clamps! The sole box was
>>for the 24" free Bessey.
>
> <snip>
>
> Dave... Besseys are like cocaine, gods way of saying you have too much
> disposable income...
>
> you know you suck, right? *lol*
>
> I'll just so back in my cave and use my harbor Fright clamps and sulk...
> Mac
>
> https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
> https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm
well, I guess I'm guilty of disposing of TOO MUCH of my income. :)
I cut back in other areas, Mac: I rarely buy clothes!
And we don't replace our vehicles every 3 years like so many folks do.
that leaves a bit more cash for tools. <g>
Dave
alexy wrote:
> David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>The doorbell rang a few minutes ago and I heard the thump of a package
>>on the porch. By the time got to the door, the UPS was already at his
>>truck and there on the porch lie 4 NAKED 82" clamps! The sole box was
>>for the 24" free Bessey. WTF! Fearing the worse (yes, I'm a
>>pessimist), I drag them into the shop for inspection, thinking I'll need
>>to find the 1-800 number for Amazon's customer service. I inspect one
>>clamp...seems ok. Not bent. hmmm...whatever...look at the next
>>one...yeah, it's fine. Now my luck can't hold out for the next two can
>>it?? Inspect the third clamp...straight, undamaged. Amazing! Now I
>>KNOW the last clamp has got to be damaged, somehow. Look it over.
>>sigh. it's ok too. WTF! The last couple of tool shipments I've
>>received have been BEAT TO FRICKIN' HELL AND BACK, and these suckers
>>made it unscathed WITHOUT BEING BOXED UP??
>>
>>It's a topsy turvy world.
>>
>>And you guys that felt bad that Amazon wasted money on packaging can
>>relax, knowing they puffed up their bottom line a bit by skimping on the
>>packaging for my clamps. <g>
>>
>>This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>
>
> But wait until you check the boxed one! <g>
>
LOL! You know that had crossed my mind? (that it would be damaged).
As it turned out, I've nothing to complain about and can't whine to
Amazon for a credit, like I did when my Delta sander came in a tore up
box and the instructions had fallen out. That got me a $20 credit. :)
dave
Swingman wrote:
>
> But now the REAL angst rears its ugly head ... an uneven number of clamps!
Some of us planned ahead to avoid the angst!
My six 24" clamps were shipped in six boxes. 5 of 6 broke out of the
box corner, damaging 2 black clips. My four 31" clamps were shipped in
tubes. The one that had plastic ends on the tube arrived fine. The
three that had only clear packing tape over the ends all had clamps
hanging out.
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Gary in Virginia wrote:
>
>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> <snipped good reading>
>>
>>>This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>
>> Six of the eight clamps I ordered showed up today. Each one was
>> packaged and shipped individually in a very expensive (approximately
>> 6"x48") heavy duty shipping tube. There was no bubble packing or
>> anything else in there so they just banged around inside. Now I have 6
>> large shipping tubes to dispose of. Maybe I can sell them on Ebay as
>> short concrete pillar forms. ;)
>>
>> Gary in Virginia
> Mine shipped from Phoenix. where did yours come from?
>
> Dave
Carlisle PA. Go figure.
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snipped good reading>
> This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>
> Dave
Six of the eight clamps I ordered showed up today. Each one was packaged
and shipped individually in a very expensive (approximately 6"x48") heavy
duty shipping tube. There was no bubble packing or anything else in there
so they just banged around inside. Now I have 6 large shipping tubes to
dispose of. Maybe I can sell them on Ebay as short concrete pillar forms.
;)
Gary in Virginia
"David" wrote in message
> This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
Just stopped by the house and there were five boxes were stacked so high I
couldn't even get in the front door ... and there is 8 x 30 of porch to
choose from.
Took 30 minutes just to get rid of the boxes and bubble wrap ... the MBA
mentality personified in shipping method.
But now the REAL angst rears its ugly head ... an uneven number of clamps!
Is there a twelve step program?
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 12/13/05
[email protected] wrote:
> Or actualy, the 6 foot long EMPTY sonotube
> that may or may not have contained a clamp at
> one time. That's right. Completely empty.
> Heavy secure white plastic cap on one end of the tube.
> Absolutely nothing on the other end of the tube,
That's where the clear tape _was_. <G>
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The doorbell rang a few minutes ago and I heard the thump of a package on
> the porch. By the time got to the door, the UPS was already at his truck
> and there on the porch lie 4 NAKED 82" clamps! The sole box was for the
> 24" free Bessey. WTF! Fearing the worse (yes, I'm a pessimist), I drag
> them into the shop for inspection, thinking I'll need to find the 1-800
> number for Amazon's customer service. I inspect one clamp...seems ok. Not
> bent. hmmm...whatever...look at the next one...yeah, it's fine. Now my
> luck can't hold out for the next two can it?? Inspect the third
> clamp...straight, undamaged. Amazing! Now I KNOW the last clamp has got
> to be damaged, somehow. Look it over. sigh. it's ok too. WTF! The last
> couple of tool shipments I've received have been BEAT TO FRICKIN' HELL AND
> BACK, and these suckers made it unscathed WITHOUT BEING BOXED UP??
You would have received the clamps last week had the delivery driver not
needed them to finish a project he was working on. :~)
Ba r r y wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:07:26 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>The shipping labels were dusty and worn and were attached to bubble wrap
>>around the handles. they were SHIPPED w/o boxes. I've never seen a
>>shipping label attached to an item INSIDE a box.
>
>
> Four of my clamps were shipped in something resembling Sonotube.
>
> 3 of 4 of them had only TAPE as end caps, and the bar of the clamp
> broke through. In other words, I got three 4 foot tubes with 4 feet
> of clamp sticking out one end. <G>
>
> The (6) 24 inchers were in individual boxes. 5 of 6 broke out of the
> corner of the box.
>
> Two of ten have broken black plastic ends.
>
> Barry
The broken parts should be worth a credit from Amazon. Are you going to
call them?
The one box I got was triangular, for the 24" clamp.
Dave
Swingman wrote:
> "David" wrote in message
>
>
>>This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>
>
> Just stopped by the house and there were five boxes were stacked so high I
> couldn't even get in the front door ... and there is 8 x 30 of porch to
> choose from.
>
> Took 30 minutes just to get rid of the boxes and bubble wrap ... the MBA
> mentality personified in shipping method.
>
> But now the REAL angst rears its ugly head ... an uneven number of clamps!
> Is there a twelve step program?
>
That program should include those of us too weak to resist the next
plane. (Never enough clamps; never enough planes). Damn LV. Damn Bessey.
Dave
skeezics wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:20:04 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>"David" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>>
>>Just stopped by the house and there were five boxes were stacked so high I
>>couldn't even get in the front door ... and there is 8 x 30 of porch to
>>choose from.
>>
>>Took 30 minutes just to get rid of the boxes and bubble wrap ... the MBA
>>mentality personified in shipping method.
>>
>>But now the REAL angst rears its ugly head ... an uneven number of clamps!
>>Is there a twelve step program?
>
>
> whew! i must have reached tool nirvana! the last dozen or so tool porn
> mags that arrived had nothing in them that i felt i needed and a scant
> few items that i could possibly want. its a great feeling trust me.
> havent run out of clamps in over a year. i must be ready to croak
> !!!!!!!! lol...
>
> skeez
Just when you think it's safe to open up the next tool porn, you'll
discover a "must have" in the latest issue. Rob's no dummy!
Dave
[email protected] wrote:
> David wrote:
>
>>The doorbell rang a few minutes ago and I heard the thump of a package
>>on the porch. By the time got to the door, the UPS was already at his
>>truck and there on the porch lie 4 NAKED 82" clamps! The sole box was
>>for the 24" free Bessey....
>>received have been BEAT TO FRICKIN' HELL AND BACK, and these suckers
>>made it unscathed WITHOUT BEING BOXED UP??
>>
>
>
> That you received them unboxed does not mean that they were sent
> unboxed.
> It may well be that the box they were in was so badly beat up the
> driver
> simply left it in the truck.
>
The shipping labels were dusty and worn and were attached to bubble wrap
around the handles. they were SHIPPED w/o boxes. I've never seen a
shipping label attached to an item INSIDE a box.
Dave
[email protected] wrote:
> Ba r r y wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:07:26 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The shipping labels were dusty and worn and were attached to bubble wrap
>>>around the handles. they were SHIPPED w/o boxes. I've never seen a
>>>shipping label attached to an item INSIDE a box.
>>
>>Four of my clamps were shipped in something resembling Sonotube.
>>
>>3 of 4 of them had only TAPE as end caps, and the bar of the clamp
>>broke through. In other words, I got three 4 foot tubes with 4 feet
>>of clamp sticking out one end. <G>
>>
>>The (6) 24 inchers were in individual boxes. 5 of 6 broke out of the
>>corner of the box.
>>
>>Two of ten have broken black plastic ends.
>>
>>Barry
>
>
> Yesterday I received the first of 6 Bessey Clamps I ordered...
>
> Or actualy, the 6 foot long EMPTY sonotube
> that may or may not have contained a clamp at
> one time. That's right. Completely empty.
> Heavy secure white plastic cap on one end of the tube.
> Absolutely nothing on the other end of the tube,
> and absolutely empty.
>
> Called Amazon and in minutes spoke with a nice woman
> who apologized and said that they would send out a
> replacement by 2-day service.
>
> The other 5 clamps are scheduled to be delivered today.
>
> Larry
>
That reminds of the time I got a hamburger at McDonalds back in the 60's
in KC. The bun was there. there was mustard. and a pickle. BUT NO
MEAT! :)
Dave
David <[email protected]> wrote:
>The doorbell rang a few minutes ago and I heard the thump of a package
>on the porch. By the time got to the door, the UPS was already at his
>truck and there on the porch lie 4 NAKED 82" clamps! The sole box was
>for the 24" free Bessey. WTF! Fearing the worse (yes, I'm a
>pessimist), I drag them into the shop for inspection, thinking I'll need
>to find the 1-800 number for Amazon's customer service. I inspect one
>clamp...seems ok. Not bent. hmmm...whatever...look at the next
>one...yeah, it's fine. Now my luck can't hold out for the next two can
>it?? Inspect the third clamp...straight, undamaged. Amazing! Now I
>KNOW the last clamp has got to be damaged, somehow. Look it over.
>sigh. it's ok too. WTF! The last couple of tool shipments I've
>received have been BEAT TO FRICKIN' HELL AND BACK, and these suckers
>made it unscathed WITHOUT BEING BOXED UP??
>
>It's a topsy turvy world.
>
>And you guys that felt bad that Amazon wasted money on packaging can
>relax, knowing they puffed up their bottom line a bit by skimping on the
>packaging for my clamps. <g>
>
>This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
But wait until you check the boxed one! <g>
--
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"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The doorbell rang a few minutes ago and I heard the thump of a package on
> the porch. By the time got to the door, the UPS was already at his truck
> and there on the porch lie 4 NAKED 82" clamps! The sole box was for the
> 24" free Bessey. WTF! Fearing the worse (yes, I'm a pessimist), I drag
> them into the shop for inspection, thinking I'll need to find the 1-800
> number for Amazon's customer service. I inspect one clamp...seems ok. Not
> bent. hmmm...whatever...look at the next one...yeah, it's fine. Now my
> luck can't hold out for the next two can it?? Inspect the third
> clamp...straight, undamaged. Amazing! Now I KNOW the last clamp has got
> to be damaged, somehow. Look it over. sigh. it's ok too. WTF! The last
> couple of tool shipments I've received have been BEAT TO FRICKIN' HELL AND
> BACK, and these suckers made it unscathed WITHOUT BEING BOXED UP??
>
> It's a topsy turvy world.
>
> And you guys that felt bad that Amazon wasted money on packaging can
> relax, knowing they puffed up their bottom line a bit by skimping on the
> packaging for my clamps. <g>
>
> This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>
> Dave
Interestingly, I've had a number of items ship without boxes surrounding
them. When I inquired with the companies as to why, their response was
that UPS typically takes better care of that which is not packed up. YMMV!
Cheers,
cc
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:20:04 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"David" wrote in message
>
>> This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>
>Just stopped by the house and there were five boxes were stacked so high I
>couldn't even get in the front door ... and there is 8 x 30 of porch to
>choose from.
>
>Took 30 minutes just to get rid of the boxes and bubble wrap ... the MBA
>mentality personified in shipping method.
>
>But now the REAL angst rears its ugly head ... an uneven number of clamps!
>Is there a twelve step program?
whew! i must have reached tool nirvana! the last dozen or so tool porn
mags that arrived had nothing in them that i felt i needed and a scant
few items that i could possibly want. its a great feeling trust me.
havent run out of clamps in over a year. i must be ready to croak
!!!!!!!! lol...
skeez
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:04:58 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> skeez
>Just when you think it's safe to open up the next tool porn, you'll
>discover a "must have" in the latest issue. Rob's no dummy!
>
>Dave
LMAO... you sir are probly correct! i get this form o porn almost
daily and i always look soooo...... but at this moment i am content.
still LMAO. BUT tomorrow is yet another day.
skeez
Swing,
I've an uneven number of Bessy's too. Send me one of yours to be sure the
earth continues to rotate on its proper axis.
jc
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "David" wrote in message
>
>> This isn't even a rant, because nothing was busted.
>
> Just stopped by the house and there were five boxes were stacked so high I
> couldn't even get in the front door ... and there is 8 x 30 of porch to
> choose from.
>
> Took 30 minutes just to get rid of the boxes and bubble wrap ... the MBA
> mentality personified in shipping method.
>
> But now the REAL angst rears its ugly head ... an uneven number of clamps!
> Is there a twelve step program?
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 12/13/05
>
>
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:07:26 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>The shipping labels were dusty and worn and were attached to bubble wrap
>around the handles. they were SHIPPED w/o boxes. I've never seen a
>shipping label attached to an item INSIDE a box.
Four of my clamps were shipped in something resembling Sonotube.
3 of 4 of them had only TAPE as end caps, and the bar of the clamp
broke through. In other words, I got three 4 foot tubes with 4 feet
of clamp sticking out one end. <G>
The (6) 24 inchers were in individual boxes. 5 of 6 broke out of the
corner of the box.
Two of ten have broken black plastic ends.
Barry