In article <[email protected]>,
CathyLee <[email protected]> wrote:
>2 years ago I refinished an oak antique table, I was going to stain it a
>dark walnut to match the chairs, but hubby liked it natural so I applied
>the Danish oil.
>
>Now I want to stain it walnut.
>
>How do I take off the Danish oil without removing the natural patina so
>I can stain it?
>
>CathyLee
>
>
1) Turn the table top over.
2) sand through the thickness of the material, until you reach the patina.
3) *stop* before you damage the patina.
4) fabricate a replacement section for that which was sanded away.
5) apply stain to the replacement section.
6) invert said replacement, so it is "top down", and position on
the piece from steps 1-3.
7) press firmly.
8) turn back right-side up.
Any more questions?
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:36:48 -0000, [email protected] (Robert
Bonomi) wrote:
>2) sand through the thickness of the material, until you reach the patina.
>3) *stop* before you damage the patina.
Use a rotary veneer cutter to slice the patina off, veneer the oak with
walnut, then re-attach the patina layer you saved from step 2.
Sorry, but I can't think of any way to do literally what you ask for.
But why should you anyway ? Solid timber furniture is rare enough these
days - leave your oak looking like oak.
You _might_ find that ammonia fuming the oak will darken it even through
the danish oil. But I've never tried this, and I'd experiment first.
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:36:48 -0000, Robert Bonomi <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> CathyLee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>2 years ago I refinished an oak antique table, I was going to stain it a
>>dark walnut to match the chairs, but hubby liked it natural so I applied
>>the Danish oil.
>>
>>Now I want to stain it walnut.
>>
>>How do I take off the Danish oil without removing the natural patina so
>>I can stain it?
> 1) Turn the table top over.
> 2) sand through the thickness of the material, until you reach the patina.
> 3) *stop* before you damage the patina.
> 4) fabricate a replacement section for that which was sanded away.
> 5) apply stain to the replacement section.
> 6) invert said replacement, so it is "top down", and position on
> the piece from steps 1-3.
> 7) press firmly.
> 8) turn back right-side up.
Robert. While your advice is nearly always spot-on, I must object in
this case and show that you have overlooked something. Danish oil is a
_penetrating_ finish, not a surface finish. So, while your procedure
might be perfectly valid for, say, a polyurethane or other surface
finish, it just won't do in this case.
Unfortunately, once the Danish oil has penetrated, the best you can hope
for to recolor it is a surface color treatment, and I've never seen one
that looked good. Maybe modifying hubby's expectations would be easier.
Dave Hinz
I have a simple idea but it may be totally wrong because I am confused
by your description.
You say you refinished an antique table but you kept the patina. Unless
you used a very mild stripping process such as alcohol or lacquer thinner
and were careful enough not to disturb all the patina, you surely did remove
the patina. If you did remove the patina in the first go around, simply
strip again using standard stripping processes and finish as you like.
If the patina was really left intact, try using a walnut colored Danish
oil. You could always make your own. If that doesn't work, you may have to
use a walnut toner but it is always risky to apply a new film finish over an
existing finish.
Good Luck.
"CathyLee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2 years ago I refinished an oak antique table, I was going to stain it a
> dark walnut to match the chairs, but hubby liked it natural so I applied
> the Danish oil.
>
> Now I want to stain it walnut.
>
> How do I take off the Danish oil without removing the natural patina so
> I can stain it?
>
> CathyLee
>
>
"CathyLee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2 years ago I refinished an oak antique table, I was going to stain it a
> dark walnut to match the chairs, but hubby liked it natural so I applied
> the Danish oil.
>
> Now I want to stain it walnut.
>
> How do I take off the Danish oil without removing the natural patina so
> I can stain it?
>
> CathyLee
>
In case you haven't figured out the responses - you're in deep doo-doo.
Say Hi to Frank -
"CathyLee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>2 years ago I refinished an oak antique table, I was going to stain it a
> dark walnut to match the chairs, but hubby liked it natural so I applied
> the Danish oil.
>
> Now I want to stain it walnut.
>
> How do I take off the Danish oil without removing the natural patina so
> I can stain it?
You cannot. The natural patina is on the surface of the wood now and
staining will cover that up along with the Danish oil finish appearance.
You can however simply stain over the Danish oil finish and see what you end
up with.