DG

"Denis G."

24/02/2010 9:47 AM

Micro Kerf 40 saw blade

I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.


This topic has 17 replies

DG

"Denis G."

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 3:31 PM

On Feb 24, 4:52=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> > program and looked it up on line. =A0Here's a demo:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1DIlSsF4Qkg
> > They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. =A0It's pretty pricey
> > at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>
> From their web site,,,,
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWvUV9pCw4-Q
>
> Are these guys really serious or are they simply mocking the industry?
>
> If =A0I were in business manufacturing saw blades I certainly WOULD NOT h=
ave
> the above link on my web site. =A0 Hummmmm.

Oh, that's just a tradition up here. We cut up sticks and put them in
the mud.

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 12:16 PM

On 02/24/2010 11:47 AM, Denis G. wrote:
> I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.

You can get an even smaller kerf by going with an ultra thin kerf
cordless circular saw blade. As long as you don't need the full depth
of cut, it's *way* cheaper than this special blade.

Chris

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 2:47 PM

Denis G. wrote:
> I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.

I've got a Forrest thin kerf blade. I found that depending on the
grain/figure of the wood the blade would sometime deflect slightly. I
ended up also buying a Forrest full kerf blade. I can only imagine what
a 1/16" kerfed blade might do.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 6:27 PM

"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Denis G. wrote:
>> I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
>> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
>> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
>> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>
> I've got a Forrest thin kerf blade. I found that depending on the
> grain/figure of the wood the blade would sometime deflect slightly. I
> ended up also buying a Forrest full kerf blade. I can only imagine what a
> 1/16" kerfed blade might do.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]


If you go to the web site:

www.totalsawsolutions.com
You'll see that the blade appears to have a "thickened" center, sort of a
"built in" blade stabilizer.
That would, of course, limit the depth of cut.
$176. rules it out for me. I'm happy with my Forrest.

Max

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 11:09 AM

On Feb 24, 12:47=A0pm, "Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> program and looked it up on line. =A0Here's a demo:http://www.youtube.com=
/watch?v=3D1DIlSsF4Qkg
> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. =A0It's pretty pricey
> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.

I'd say very pricey...but it's got a 90 day money back guarantee.

I'd still wait for a sale.

R

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 4:52 PM


"Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.


From their web site,,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvUV9pCw4-Q

Are these guys really serious or are they simply mocking the industry?

If I were in business manufacturing saw blades I certainly WOULD NOT have
the above link on my web site. Hummmmm.

DG

"Denis G."

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 1:09 PM

On Feb 24, 2:26=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> > program and looked it up on line. =A0Here's a demo:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1DIlSsF4Qkg
> > They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. =A0It's pretty pricey
> > at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>
> Thin blades are OK for cutting veneer and cuts that you are not concerned
> about. =A0Thin kerf blades flex and with flex you =A0get poorer cuts more=
often
> than with a regular kerf bald.. =A0I have been down that route and will s=
tay
> with the regular kerf blades.
>
> As far as saving wood,,, unless you are cutting a lot of thin strips or
> veneer you are not going to benefit. =A0When was the last time you wished=
you
> had a board that was 3/64" wider? =A0;~)
>
> Also, =A0the guy talking in the video noticed and pointed out tooth marks=
on
> the wood he just cut.... =A0that is a problem with thin kerf blades becau=
se
> the flex and deflect that you don't see as often with regular kerf blades=
.

Wow, we must have seen different videos! The guy I saw actually liked
the cut from the blade he was using.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 4:37 PM


"Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Feb 24, 2:26 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Also, the guy talking in the video noticed and pointed out tooth marks on
> the wood he just cut.... that is a problem with thin kerf blades because
> the flex and deflect that you don't see as often with regular kerf blades.

Wow, we must have seen different videos! The guy I saw actually liked
the cut from the blade he was using.


I think we saw the same, 3 guys? Watch again, the guy doing most of the
talking and making the cut points out tooth marks, IIRC he refers to them as
kerf or cut marks.
And yes he did seem happy, I used to be happy with a fast cut and putting up
with having to address the tooth marks later on. Now however tooth marks
are mostly a distant memory. I'd much rather make a slightly slower cut and
be done with the edge. I suspect the guy in the video has not yet gotten
used to consistently having a smooth cut from his saw.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 3:20 PM

Denis G. wrote:
> I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg They're getting ready to
> sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.

Or - if you can get by on a .079 kerf - you can get a Tenryu for less than a
third of that. I used to have one some years ago, nice blade. I still have
a 7 1/4" Tenryu which has a 1/16" kerf Less than $25); handier than a router
or long, narrow grooves.

http://www.mytoolstore.com/tenryu/thinke.html

--

dadiOH
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Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 4:31 PM


"Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:d593dd8f-24ff-4321-abd7-9ded98841901@b36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 24, 1:47 pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> Denis G. wrote:
> > I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> > program and looked it up on line. Here's a
> > demo:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
> > They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
> > at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>
> I've got a Forrest thin kerf blade. I found that depending on the
> grain/figure of the wood the blade would sometime deflect slightly. I
> ended up also buying a Forrest full kerf blade. I can only imagine what
> a 1/16" kerfed blade might do.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]

My guess is that it would deflect too if you pushed it wrong. I
talked to someone at the company (just because I was curious) -- the
blade is made of a high speed steel (recycled material - "green"
advertising) with carbide tips.

Recycled/green would explain the exaggerated cost.

DG

"Denis G."

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 12:28 PM

On Feb 24, 1:47=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> Denis G. wrote:
> > I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> > program and looked it up on line. =A0Here's a demo:http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3D1DIlSsF4Qkg
> > They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. =A0It's pretty pricey
> > at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>
> I've got a Forrest thin kerf blade. =A0I found that depending on the
> grain/figure of the wood the blade would sometime deflect slightly. =A0I
> ended up also buying a Forrest full kerf blade. =A0I can only imagine wha=
t
> a 1/16" kerfed blade might do.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]

My guess is that it would deflect too if you pushed it wrong. I
talked to someone at the company (just because I was curious) -- the
blade is made of a high speed steel (recycled material - "green"
advertising) with carbide tips.

DG

"Denis G."

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 12:38 PM

On Feb 24, 2:20=A0pm, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Denis G. wrote:
> > I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> > program and looked it up on line. =A0Here's a demo:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1DIlSsF4QkgThey're getting ready to
> > sell it through Amazon. =A0It's pretty pricey
> > at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>
> Or - if you can get by on a .079 kerf - you can get a Tenryu for less tha=
n a
> third of that. =A0I used to have one some years ago, nice blade. =A0I sti=
ll have
> a 7 1/4" Tenryu which has a 1/16" kerf Less than $25); handier than a rou=
ter
> or long, narrow grooves.
>
> http://www.mytoolstore.com/tenryu/thinke.html
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it athttp://mysite.verizon.net/xico

Those look like a good deal. I looked at your link and was a little
unclear if they all have carbide tips. Also, it seems that you'd
probably want to use a blade stabilizer for the 10" version. I know
that Tenryu makes good circular saw blades for dry cutting steel and
they make quality products..

cc

"chaniarts"

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 1:35 PM

Leon wrote:
> "Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
>> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
>> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
>> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>
> Thin blades are OK for cutting veneer and cuts that you are not
> concerned about. Thin kerf blades flex and with flex you get poorer
> cuts more often than with a regular kerf bald.. I have been down
> that route and will stay with the regular kerf blades.
>
> As far as saving wood,,, unless you are cutting a lot of thin strips
> or veneer you are not going to benefit. When was the last time you
> wished you had a board that was 3/64" wider? ;~)

last week. no matter how much i cut off, it was still too short.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 4:29 PM


"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Leon" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Denis G. wrote:
>>>> I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
>>>> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo:
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
>>>> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
>>>> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>>>
>>> I've got a Forrest thin kerf blade. I found that depending on the
>>> grain/figure of the wood the blade would sometime deflect slightly. I
>>> ended up also buying a Forrest full kerf blade. I can only imagine what
>>> a
>>> 1/16" kerfed blade might do.
>>
>>
>>Think band saw blade.
>
> Isn't a band saw blade supported both below and above the cut, preventing
> horizontal deflection? The table saw blade is not similarly supported.


I probably should have clarified, band saw blade quality of cut. Tooth
marks.

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 10:15 PM

"Leon" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Denis G. wrote:
>>> I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
>>> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
>>> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
>>> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>>
>> I've got a Forrest thin kerf blade. I found that depending on the
>> grain/figure of the wood the blade would sometime deflect slightly. I
>> ended up also buying a Forrest full kerf blade. I can only imagine what a
>> 1/16" kerfed blade might do.
>
>
>Think band saw blade.

Isn't a band saw blade supported both below and above the cut, preventing
horizontal deflection? The table saw blade is not similarly supported.

scott

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 2:27 PM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Denis G. wrote:
>> I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
>> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
>> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
>> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.
>
> I've got a Forrest thin kerf blade. I found that depending on the
> grain/figure of the wood the blade would sometime deflect slightly. I
> ended up also buying a Forrest full kerf blade. I can only imagine what a
> 1/16" kerfed blade might do.


Think band saw blade.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Denis G." on 24/02/2010 9:47 AM

24/02/2010 2:26 PM


"Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I heard about this saw blade on my local (Wisconsin) public radio
> program and looked it up on line. Here's a demo:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIlSsF4Qkg
> They're getting ready to sell it through Amazon. It's pretty pricey
> at $176 per blade, but also it seems to be an amazing saw blade.

Thin blades are OK for cutting veneer and cuts that you are not concerned
about. Thin kerf blades flex and with flex you get poorer cuts more often
than with a regular kerf bald.. I have been down that route and will stay
with the regular kerf blades.

As far as saving wood,,, unless you are cutting a lot of thin strips or
veneer you are not going to benefit. When was the last time you wished you
had a board that was 3/64" wider? ;~)

Also, the guy talking in the video noticed and pointed out tooth marks on
the wood he just cut.... that is a problem with thin kerf blades because
the flex and deflect that you don't see as often with regular kerf blades.


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