All,
Although perhaps better ask in the alt.homeimprovement group I'm more
active here. I'm in the process of refinishing the wood floors in our
1924 Dutch Colonial and whatta mess. Actually the drum sander works
really well but the edge sander is melting the old finish and I'm
getting maybe 6 linear feet per 40 grit pad before they become
unusable. Wondered what folks thought that old finish was? I was
thinking shellac since that's what I found when I stripped the doors.
Although shellac doesn't strike me as durable enough for floors.
It's pretty well worn in spots but pretty good in others and has been
covered with lovely blue shag carpeting ;) for quite a while before
we moved in. I only have one room left to do but just curious.
Allen
Catonsville, MD
In article <[email protected]>, Hylourgos
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Allen Epps <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<170820040850335393%[email protected]>...
> > All,
> > Although perhaps better ask in the alt.homeimprovement group I'm more
> > active here. I'm in the process of refinishing the wood floors in our
> > 1924 Dutch Colonial and whatta mess. Actually the drum sander works
> > really well but the edge sander is melting the old finish and I'm
> > getting maybe 6 linear feet per 40 grit pad before they become
> > unusable. Wondered what folks thought that old finish was? I was
> > thinking shellac since that's what I found when I stripped the doors.
> > Although shellac doesn't strike me as durable enough for floors.
> >
> > It's pretty well worn in spots but pretty good in others and has been
> > covered with lovely blue shag carpeting ;) for quite a while before
> > we moved in. I only have one room left to do but just curious.
> >
> > Allen
> > Catonsville, MD
>
> I've had that problem too, and discovered, in my case, that the
> "gumminess" was caused by two things: edges get more varnish when
> applied incorrectly (common), and carpet tape left a nearly invisible
> glue substance on top.
>
> My solution was to switch to smaller grit along the edges for a first
> run, used mostly scrapers around corners (which had a buildup of
> varnish), and finally went with a chemical stripper in difficult
> spots.
>
> Good luck,
> H
All,
Thanks for the suggestions. Yes the floors upstairs are pine but I
can't imagine them still being sappy enough to be a problem after 80
years. I'm not sure I'd call this pine old growth but the grain is
really tight on most of it. I ended using a scraper in the corners as
several suggested and that helped and from what other folks said I
suppose it was, in fact, shellac. I put the second coat of poly on it
this morning and it looks great. Much redder and richer finish than I
thought. At least at the end of the whole thing I actually get to spend
some time in the shop making some new bi-fold doors and SWMBO gets a
new guest bedroom / sewing room out of the deal so we're all happy and
this project is done before hunting seasons start!
Allen
Catonsville, MD
"Allen Epps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:170820040850335393%[email protected]...
> All,
> Although perhaps better ask in the alt.homeimprovement group I'm more
> active here. I'm in the process of refinishing the wood floors in our
> 1924 Dutch Colonial and whatta mess. Actually the drum sander works
> really well but the edge sander is melting the old finish and I'm
> getting maybe 6 linear feet per 40 grit pad before they become
> unusable. Wondered what folks thought that old finish was? I was
> thinking shellac since that's what I found when I stripped the doors.
> Although shellac doesn't strike me as durable enough for floors.
>
> It's pretty well worn in spots but pretty good in others and has been
> covered with lovely blue shag carpeting ;) for quite a while before
> we moved in. I only have one room left to do but just curious.
>
> Allen
> Catonsville, MD
Use a regularly sharpened pull scraper to remove the bulk of the finish,
then the sanding disks will last longer.
B
Allen Epps <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<170820040850335393%[email protected]>...
> All,
> Although perhaps better ask in the alt.homeimprovement group I'm more
> active here. I'm in the process of refinishing the wood floors in our
> 1924 Dutch Colonial and whatta mess. Actually the drum sander works
> really well but the edge sander is melting the old finish and I'm
> getting maybe 6 linear feet per 40 grit pad before they become
> unusable. Wondered what folks thought that old finish was? I was
> thinking shellac since that's what I found when I stripped the doors.
> Although shellac doesn't strike me as durable enough for floors.
>
> It's pretty well worn in spots but pretty good in others and has been
> covered with lovely blue shag carpeting ;) for quite a while before
> we moved in. I only have one room left to do but just curious.
>
> Allen
> Catonsville, MD
I've had that problem too, and discovered, in my case, that the
"gumminess" was caused by two things: edges get more varnish when
applied incorrectly (common), and carpet tape left a nearly invisible
glue substance on top.
My solution was to switch to smaller grit along the edges for a first
run, used mostly scrapers around corners (which had a buildup of
varnish), and finally went with a chemical stripper in difficult
spots.
Good luck,
H
Allen Epps <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<170820040850335393%[email protected]>...
> All,
> Although perhaps better ask in the alt.homeimprovement group I'm more
> active here. I'm in the process of refinishing the wood floors in our
> 1924 Dutch Colonial and whatta mess. Actually the drum sander works
> really well but the edge sander is melting the old finish and I'm
> getting maybe 6 linear feet per 40 grit pad before they become
> unusable. Wondered what folks thought that old finish was? I was
> thinking shellac since that's what I found when I stripped the doors.
> Although shellac doesn't strike me as durable enough for floors.
>
> It's pretty well worn in spots but pretty good in others and has been
> covered with lovely blue shag carpeting ;) for quite a while before
> we moved in. I only have one room left to do but just curious.
>
> Allen
> Catonsville, MD
I've had that problem too, and discovered, in my case, that the
"gumminess" was caused by two things: edges get more varnish when
applied incorrectly (common), and carpet tape left a nearly invisible
glue substance on top.
My solution was to switch to smaller grit along the edges for a first
run, used mostly scrapers around corners (which had a buildup of
varnish), and finally went with a chemical stripper in difficult
spots.
Good luck,
H
"Allen Epps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I was
> thinking shellac since that's what I found when I stripped the doors.
> Although shellac doesn't strike me as durable enough for floors.
>
About 50 years ago my grandparents had hardwood floor installed. I can
still recall the smell of shellac from when they were finished. It was the
most popular coating for floors.
Ed
Allen Epps <[email protected]> wrote in news:170820040850335393%
[email protected]:
What type of flooring is it? Many times when I sand pine floors it's not
the finish but the sap (or pitch or resin or whatever you want to call
it) that gums up my discs. When I run into this I usually rough edge
with 16 grit paper then go back over it with your final grit.
Adam
> All,
> Although perhaps better ask in the alt.homeimprovement group I'm more
> active here. I'm in the process of refinishing the wood floors in our
> 1924 Dutch Colonial and whatta mess. Actually the drum sander works
> really well but the edge sander is melting the old finish and I'm
> getting maybe 6 linear feet per 40 grit pad before they become
> unusable. Wondered what folks thought that old finish was? I was
> thinking shellac since that's what I found when I stripped the doors.
> Although shellac doesn't strike me as durable enough for floors.
>
> It's pretty well worn in spots but pretty good in others and has been
> covered with lovely blue shag carpeting ;) for quite a while before
> we moved in. I only have one room left to do but just curious.
>
> Allen
> Catonsville, MD
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Allen Epps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I was
>> thinking shellac since that's what I found when I stripped the doors.
>> Although shellac doesn't strike me as durable enough for floors.
>>
>
> About 50 years ago my grandparents had hardwood floor installed. I can
> still recall the smell of shellac from when they were finished. It was
> the most popular coating for floors.
Is that original shellac still in place? And in 1954 what alternatives were
available?
> Ed
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