Ll

"Leon"

07/01/2010 7:09 PM

38,88 Cubic Inches

Yup, lots of storage. I spent the day assembling the 18 drawers today.
These drawers will have the Arts and Crafts false fronts attached and will
go under our bed, part of the Tower Bedroom Project. I seemed to have had a
pretty good routine going and I decided to time myself after the 8th drawer
and I was not rushing in any way.
#9, 6 min 13 sec.
#10 6 min 10 sec
#11 6 min 5 sec

And I still don't know what happened on #12, 5 min 36 sec. I gave it a
thorough inspection to make sure that I had not left out any brads.

Any way they are constructed from 1/2" Baltic birch and 1/4" birch plywood
for the bottoms. Rabbet corner joints, glued, clamped, and braded.
Bottoms were dadoed-in about 3/8" from the bottom. Approximately 5" deep
inside, 18" side inside and 24" deep inside.

One too many to stack in my shop. ;~)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4254670705/


This topic has 25 replies

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 9:00 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yup, lots of storage. I spent the day assembling the 18 drawers today.
> These drawers will have the Arts and Crafts false fronts attached and will
> go under our bed, part of the Tower Bedroom Project. I seemed to have had
> a pretty good routine going and I decided to time myself after the 8th
> drawer and I was not rushing in any way.
> #9, 6 min 13 sec.
> #10 6 min 10 sec
> #11 6 min 5 sec
>
> And I still don't know what happened on #12, 5 min 36 sec. I gave it a
> thorough inspection to make sure that I had not left out any brads.
>
> Any way they are constructed from 1/2" Baltic birch and 1/4" birch
> plywood for the bottoms. Rabbet corner joints, glued, clamped, and
> braded. Bottoms were dadoed-in about 3/8" from the bottom. Approximately
> 5" deep inside, 18" side inside and 24" deep inside.
>
> One too many to stack in my shop. ;~)
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4254670705/
>
Good thing that these drawers fit under the bed. Otherwise, you wouldn't
have room to fit them in the bedroom!

Looks good. We all know how excited women get with new drawer or closet
space. How is she dealing with the anticipated new drawer capacity?


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 9:10 PM


"Swingman" wrote
>
> I do wrap the hose bibs on her house because they were installed 60 years
> ago by Yank's who moved down here to build during the 50's and apparently
> hadn't yet heard of global warming.
> --
just a comment about insulating outside faucets. I have put a styrofoam cap
over mine for years. But the cheap plastic thread stripped and I had to buy
a new one very other year because it wouldn't seal properly. They have a new
design, new to this area anyway, that uses an elastic cord to secure the
cover to the faucet. Installs in a snap and looks like it will last much
longer than the old model.

Also, those covers don't seal well against shingles. So I tacked some closed
cell foam around the faucet to give me a flat surface to install the foam
cover.

Gotta go chop up some kindling. My honey requires a fire in cold weather.
She just never learned the concept of kindling. Which is why I have to keep
making more of it. I just finished a couple projects here and elsewhere and
have lots of kindling. A totally temporary situation around here.




LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 5:44 PM


"Swingman" wrote:

> Call me next time. Didn't go to Austin due to the weather and about
> the only thing I did in the shop all day was to bring the glue into
> the house so it wouldn't freeze ... and wrap pipes and hose bibs.
================================
Old time solution when wrapping pipes may not be possible.

"Crack" a valve open to a fast dribble.

Just enough water flow to prevent freezing.

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 7:34 PM

"Swingman" wrote:

> Still works ... just left daughters house where I showed her how to
> leave the cabinet doors open on all sink bases that are on an
> exterior walls, and how much "dribble" to have on the faucets,
> particularly the one furthermost from the input from the meter ...
> compounded by the fact that this house has been remodeled so many
> times it couldn't find the zipper it it need to take a leak.
>
> I do wrap the hose bibs on her house because they were installed 60
> years ago by Yank's who moved down here to build during the 50's and
> apparently hadn't yet heard of global warming.

Sounds like it's time to cut in some shut off valves this spring in
all those outdoor water lines.

Problem goes away then as long as you remember to use the valves and
drain the lines.

Lew


Sk

Swingman

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 7:52 PM

On 1/7/2010 7:44 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote:
>
>> Call me next time. Didn't go to Austin due to the weather and about
>> the only thing I did in the shop all day was to bring the glue into
>> the house so it wouldn't freeze ... and wrap pipes and hose bibs.
> ================================
> Old time solution when wrapping pipes may not be possible.
>
> "Crack" a valve open to a fast dribble.
>
> Just enough water flow to prevent freezing.

Still works ... just left daughters house where I showed her how to
leave the cabinet doors open on all sink bases that are on an exterior
walls, and how much "dribble" to have on the faucets, particularly the
one furthermost from the input from the meter ... compounded by the fact
that this house has been remodeled so many times it couldn't find the
zipper it it need to take a leak.

I do wrap the hose bibs on her house because they were installed 60
years ago by Yank's who moved down here to build during the 50's and
apparently hadn't yet heard of global warming.

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"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 2:08 PM


"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>> 12 drawers will be visible, 6 on each side, and 6 drawers will hidden in
>> the middle. Those middle drawers will be a bit inconvenient to get to
>> but at least the space is not wasted. Seasonal items can go in there or
>> maybe my dirty underwear. ;~)
>
> Need to mount them on a rotating assembly like in display case.
>
> Then just rotate until one desired is at hand... :)
>
> (I actually have seen at least one tool storage cabinet built this way.)
>
> --

BTY if you want to build this, it is quite simple. But there are a few
gotcha's I can warn you about and a few things that need to be assembled in
the correct order for ease of assembly.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

12/01/2010 7:42 AM


"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:37:56 -0500, the infamous Pat Barber
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>Leon wrote:
>>> Yup, lots of storage. I spent the day assembling the 18 drawers today.
>
>>I hope you show us "how" you are gonna put all
>>those drawers under that bed.
>
> I think he has a 5' farm jack to move the bed around, Pat. How the
> hell he got that mattress into the room is beyond me. It makes my
> shoehorns claustrophobic, I tell ya.


The bed company guys got the mattress in the room... LOL. Actually we spun
the mattress a few weeks ago and it was no bi deal..

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

08/01/2010 8:49 AM


"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Snip
>>
> Good thing that these drawers fit under the bed. Otherwise, you wouldn't
> have room to fit them in the bedroom!
>
> Looks good. We all know how excited women get with new drawer or closet
> space. How is she dealing with the anticipated new drawer capacity?


Let's just say that she is not doing anything to distract me, which may not
be a good thing and or explain a few things. ;~)

Sk

Swingman

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 10:18 PM

On 1/7/2010 9:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote:

>> I do wrap the hose bibs on her house because they were installed 60
>> years ago by Yank's who moved down here to build during the 50's and
>> apparently hadn't yet heard of global warming.
>
> Sounds like it's time to cut in some shut off valves this spring in
> all those outdoor water lines.
>
> Problem goes away then as long as you remember to use the valves and
> drain the lines.

Not likely ... have better sense than to spend money on a rent house.

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"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 10:26 PM


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Snip


>
> Helluva stack ... "Tower Project" is apt!
>
> Call me next time. Didn't go to Austin due to the weather and about the
> only thing I did in the shop all day was to bring the glue into the house
> so it wouldn't freeze ... and wrap pipes and hose bibs.
>
> Think I'll call my broker tomorrow and sell some of my Brazillian Carbon
> Credits.


Tomorrow ... I get to......R O T E X......;~) Itchey trigger finger....
In between taking mom and dad to the clinic.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

08/01/2010 8:56 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:c7b2e4f3-2064-43cf-bd57-17da49536f9f@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> Damn, Leon!
>
> You should go into the drawer manufacturing business. Make kind of a
> "drawers R us" thing.
>
> That's pretty damn fast, especially if that was a cruising speed.
>
> Robert

The thought has crossed my mind but that was only assembly, I probably spent
an equal amount of time cutting and dadoing the pieces.

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 11:37 AM

I hope you show us "how" you are gonna put all
those drawers under that bed.

Leon wrote:
> Yup, lots of storage. I spent the day assembling the 18 drawers today.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

08/01/2010 8:54 AM


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1/7/2010 8:00 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>> "Leon"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>> One too many to stack in my shop. ;~)
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4254670705/
>>>
>> Good thing that these drawers fit under the bed. Otherwise, you wouldn't
>> have room to fit them in the bedroom!
>>
>> Looks good. We all know how excited women get with new drawer or closet
>> space. How is she dealing with the anticipated new drawer capacity?
>
> Shhhhh ... apparently Leon has yet to mention the new volume requirement
> for 'Dirty Underwear Drawers' in the 2010 IRC :)


After considering the fact that each finished drawer has 12 seperate pieces
of wood, 2 for the handles, 5 for the false front, and 5 for the drawer,
cutting up and assembling 216 pieces seemed like it might get a bit tedious.
And that fact alone almost required me to designate a couple extra as the
"DUD's". ;~) Hummm..

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 10:15 PM


"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> Gotta go chop up some kindling. My honey requires a fire in cold weather.
> She just never learned the concept of kindling. Which is why I have to
> keep making more of it. I just finished a couple projects here and
> elsewhere and have lots of kindling. A totally temporary situation around
> here.
>

Just the opposite here Lee. We bought a new woodstove last year and the
wife had some trouble adapting to it. She fought with getting fires going,
constantly. So... this past summer I undertook to rebuild my firewood
trailer (an old manure spreader) since the decking was completely rotted
through. Figured if I was going to replace the deck, I'd just go all the
way and replace the sides as well. Some of the decking was still reasonably
solid and in truth, all of the side rails were quite solid. But, I was
committed to a complete rebuild.

I blocked up all of the good wood into 16" pieces - it was rough cut 2x6.
Stacked it all along the wall in my wife's garage bay and proudly told her
that I had found the solution to her frustrations with the new stove.
Well... wouldn't ya know it - this year she has figured out the stove and
all of maybe 6 pieces of that old trailer have been used since we started
our fire back in October or November, or whenever it was. The damned stack
still lays in her garage bay.

They do make good blocking for that occasional need when jacking something
up or the likes, but I really expected that stack to be quite nearly gone by
now. The best laid plans and all that crap...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 2:00 PM


"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Shoot me the sketchup file if you have time..
>
> Thanks....it's a great idea.


Done.

nn

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

08/01/2010 4:59 AM

Damn, Leon!

You should go into the drawer manufacturing business. Make kind of a
"drawers R us" thing.

That's pretty damn fast, especially if that was a cruising speed.

Robert

Sk

Swingman

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 8:09 PM

On 1/7/2010 8:00 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Leon"<[email protected]> wrote in message

>> One too many to stack in my shop. ;~)
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4254670705/
>>
> Good thing that these drawers fit under the bed. Otherwise, you wouldn't
> have room to fit them in the bedroom!
>
> Looks good. We all know how excited women get with new drawer or closet
> space. How is she dealing with the anticipated new drawer capacity?

Shhhhh ... apparently Leon has yet to mention the new volume
requirement for 'Dirty Underwear Drawers' in the 2010 IRC :)

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"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 12:20 PM


"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I hope you show us "how" you are gonna put all
> those drawers under that bed.
>
> Leon wrote:
>> Yup, lots of storage. I spent the day assembling the 18 drawers today.


Seriously?

The drawers will slide on pairs of slide rails that go all the way from one
side of the bed storage unit to the other. If you give a drawer a hard
enough shove it will go to the other side.

There are 6 openings on each side. 2 tall, 3 wide. From one side to the
other I can put 3 drawers in/on each opening and set of slide rails. So to
recap, 3 drawers on each set of 6 pairs of slide rails

12 drawers will be visible, 6 on each side, and 6 drawers will hidden in the
middle. Those middle drawers will be a bit inconvenient to get to but at
least the space is not wasted. Seasonal items can go in there or maybe my
dirty underwear. ;~)

dn

dpb

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 12:59 PM

Leon wrote:
...

> 12 drawers will be visible, 6 on each side, and 6 drawers will hidden in the
> middle. Those middle drawers will be a bit inconvenient to get to but at
> least the space is not wasted. Seasonal items can go in there or maybe my
> dirty underwear. ;~)

Need to mount them on a rotating assembly like in display case.

Then just rotate until one desired is at hand... :)

(I actually have seen at least one tool storage cabinet built this way.)

--

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 1:36 PM

Well, the reason I asked, was that I have a number of beds
that could use a similar treatment. Most beds are a little
low for drawers, but I have been thinking about even flatter
drawers would work for smaller items.

That will need to be a pretty large frame rail for the drawers,
so are you gonna assemble in the room or make it up and then
slide in under the bed ?

That's what I want to see a picture of.

I just went back and looked at the one bed picture and it "looks"
like you put the drawer frame in when you built the bed or made
it the base of the bed ????

Do you have a picture of just the bed frame ???




Leon wrote:
>
>
> The drawers will slide on pairs of slide rails that go all the way from one
> side of the bed storage unit to the other. If you give a drawer a hard
> enough shove it will go to the other side.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 1:17 PM


"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>> 12 drawers will be visible, 6 on each side, and 6 drawers will hidden in
>> the middle. Those middle drawers will be a bit inconvenient to get to
>> but at least the space is not wasted. Seasonal items can go in there or
>> maybe my dirty underwear. ;~)
>
> Need to mount them on a rotating assembly like in display case.
>
> Then just rotate until one desired is at hand... :)
>
> (I actually have seen at least one tool storage cabinet built this way.)
>
> --

Hummmmm... with flip down fronts......

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 2:43 PM

Shoot me the sketchup file if you have time..

Thanks....it's a great idea.

Leon wrote:


>> Do you have a picture of just the bed frame ???
>
> No actual decent detailed pictures except when I had it standing on end in
> the shop. See a.b.o.w od pdf files of the drawings. Or if you like I can
> send you the actual Sketchup files.
>
>
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 5:47 PM

On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:37:56 -0500, the infamous Pat Barber
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>Leon wrote:
>> Yup, lots of storage. I spent the day assembling the 18 drawers today.

>I hope you show us "how" you are gonna put all
>those drawers under that bed.

I think he has a 5' farm jack to move the bed around, Pat. How the
hell he got that mattress into the room is beyond me. It makes my
shoehorns claustrophobic, I tell ya.

Topposting corrected, BTW.

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of passing through hard times bravely and cheerfully.
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Sk

Swingman

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

07/01/2010 7:37 PM

On 1/7/2010 7:09 PM, Leon wrote:
> Yup, lots of storage. I spent the day assembling the 18 drawers today.
> These drawers will have the Arts and Crafts false fronts attached and will
> go under our bed, part of the Tower Bedroom Project. I seemed to have had a
> pretty good routine going and I decided to time myself after the 8th drawer
> and I was not rushing in any way.
> #9, 6 min 13 sec.
> #10 6 min 10 sec
> #11 6 min 5 sec
>
> And I still don't know what happened on #12, 5 min 36 sec. I gave it a
> thorough inspection to make sure that I had not left out any brads.
>
> Any way they are constructed from 1/2" Baltic birch and 1/4" birch plywood
> for the bottoms. Rabbet corner joints, glued, clamped, and braded.
> Bottoms were dadoed-in about 3/8" from the bottom. Approximately 5" deep
> inside, 18" side inside and 24" deep inside.
>
> One too many to stack in my shop. ;~)
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4254670705/

Helluva stack ... "Tower Project" is apt!

Call me next time. Didn't go to Austin due to the weather and about the
only thing I did in the shop all day was to bring the glue into the
house so it wouldn't freeze ... and wrap pipes and hose bibs.

Think I'll call my broker tomorrow and sell some of my Brazillian Carbon
Credits.

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Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 07/01/2010 7:09 PM

11/01/2010 1:16 PM


"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, the reason I asked, was that I have a number of beds
> that could use a similar treatment. Most beds are a little
> low for drawers, but I have been thinking about even flatter
> drawers would work for smaller items.

>
> That will need to be a pretty large frame rail for the drawers,
> so are you gonna assemble in the room or make it up and then
> slide in under the bed ?

The storage unit/ bed frame was assembled in the shop and carried as a one
piece unit into the bedroom. I leveled the assembly with the 15 adjustable
screw feet mounted into T-nuts. From there I attached the head and foot
boards, screws throught the storage unit end panels into the posts of the
head and foot boards. Then I topped the unit off with 2 3/4" thick paywood
panels to support the mattress.


>
> That's what I want to see a picture of.

I posted the actual drawing in PDF on a.b.p.w. I do not have good pictures
of the unit by itself but the drawings should give a good idea of how this
all goes to gether. If you like I can e-mail you the Sketchup files and you
can disect the drawing components.


>
> I just went back and looked at the one bed picture and it "looks"
> like you put the drawer frame in when you built the bed or made
> it the base of the bed ????

Yes the drawer frame unit is the bed base. The bed frame/drawer unit
assembly will stand on its own. The head board and foot board were later
attached and have no purpose as far as stability or holding any members
together. They are only for looks so to speak.


> Do you have a picture of just the bed frame ???

No actual decent detailed pictures except when I had it standing on end in
the shop. See a.b.o.w od pdf files of the drawings. Or if you like I can
send you the actual Sketchup files.



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