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"Art Ransom"

15/08/2004 1:50 PM

Advice needed on LARGE cut off saw

I need to cut 5" columns in a single pass with same quality of cut finish as
my 10" carbide 100 tooth blade gives. Don't want to go to 16" plus table
saw or radial arm because of expense and floor space involved.
I thought of using a 16" Makita circular saw and making a frame for it to
slide in which would basically be a LARGE sliding compound miter saw. The
only problem I see so far is that I can only find a 108 tooth carbide blade
and I am not sure of the quality of cut it will give.
Advice/suggestions appreciated on:
1. Basic idea and/or other solutions
2 Quality of cut of 108 tooth blade
3. Source of 16" blades more than 108 teeth

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Art Ransom
Lancaster,TX
[email protected]
www.turningaround.org
http://tinyurl.com/clhg


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MO

"My Old Tools"

in reply to "Art Ransom" on 15/08/2004 1:50 PM

15/08/2004 9:16 PM

Hey Art. The 16" Makita with the stock carbide blade does a good job, but
maynot be what you need for a finish cut. They look good to me, but.....
More teeth on the Makita probably isn't the answer. They don't have the
torque. I think a new, well sharpened stock carbide blade will be the best
you can do going that route. I have the saw, but my blade is pretty dull
now. How many and how often? Thought about a hand saw?

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Ross
Greenville, TX
www.myoldtools.com

"Art Ransom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:mSJTc.256468$a24.188193@attbi_s03...
> I need to cut 5" columns in a single pass with same quality of cut finish
as
> my 10" carbide 100 tooth blade gives. Don't want to go to 16" plus table
> saw or radial arm because of expense and floor space involved.
> I thought of using a 16" Makita circular saw and making a frame for it
to
> slide in which would basically be a LARGE sliding compound miter saw.
The
> only problem I see so far is that I can only find a 108 tooth carbide
blade
> and I am not sure of the quality of cut it will give.
> Advice/suggestions appreciated on:
> 1. Basic idea and/or other solutions
> 2 Quality of cut of 108 tooth blade
> 3. Source of 16" blades more than 108 teeth
>
> --
> Art Ransom
> Lancaster,TX
> [email protected]
> www.turningaround.org
> http://tinyurl.com/clhg
>
>

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Art Ransom" on 15/08/2004 1:50 PM

15/08/2004 2:23 PM

Art Ransom wrote:

> I need to cut 5" columns in a single pass with same quality of cut finish as
> my 10" carbide 100 tooth blade gives. Don't want to go to 16" plus table
> saw or radial arm because of expense and floor space involved.
> I thought of using a 16" Makita circular saw and making a frame for it to
> slide in which would basically be a LARGE sliding compound miter saw. The
> only problem I see so far is that I can only find a 108 tooth carbide blade
> and I am not sure of the quality of cut it will give.
> Advice/suggestions appreciated on:
> 1. Basic idea and/or other solutions
> 2 Quality of cut of 108 tooth blade
> 3. Source of 16" blades more than 108 teeth

Tom Plamann's solution was to mount the arm of a cut off saw to his lathe. See:

http://www.plamann.com/sys-tmpl/lathe/view.nhtml?profile=lathe&UID=10008

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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Art Ransom" on 15/08/2004 1:50 PM

15/08/2004 2:09 PM


"Art Ransom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> 1. Basic idea and/or other solutions
> 2 Quality of cut of 108 tooth blade
> 3. Source of 16" blades more than 108 teeth
>
> --

Contact Ridge Carbide Tool. www.ridgecarbidetool.com They don't sow them
on the web page, but they make many different 16" blades, including one with
150 teeth. It may not be suitable for your use though. At Ridge, you can
actually get a real person on the phone that can better help you.

You probably know to put the quality of cut before the number of teeth in a
blade. Not ground properly, a high tooth count is going to give less
desirable results than a properly set blade.

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to "Art Ransom" on 15/08/2004 1:50 PM

15/08/2004 2:14 PM

"Art Ransom" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:mSJTc.256468$a24.188193@attbi_s03:

> I need to cut 5" columns in a single pass with same quality of cut
> finish as my 10" carbide 100 tooth blade gives. Don't want to go to
> 16" plus table saw or radial arm because of expense and floor space
> involved.
> I thought of using a 16" Makita circular saw and making a frame for
> it to
> slide in which would basically be a LARGE sliding compound miter saw.
> The only problem I see so far is that I can only find a 108 tooth
> carbide blade and I am not sure of the quality of cut it will give.
> Advice/suggestions appreciated on:
> 1. Basic idea and/or other solutions
> 2 Quality of cut of 108 tooth blade
> 3. Source of 16" blades more than 108 teeth
>

How often to do you need to do this? Is this a regular production item, in
a shop? Or in the field?

Are these always the same length, or do they need to be custom fit?

Are these columns turned, or something other than cirular in cross section?

What material?

So many questions...

Patriarch

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stickdoctor

in reply to "Art Ransom" on 15/08/2004 1:50 PM

18/08/2004 9:54 PM

"Art Ransom" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:mSJTc.256468$a24.188193@attbi_s03:

> I need to cut 5" columns in a single pass with same quality of cut
> finish as my 10" carbide 100 tooth blade gives. Don't want to go to
> 16" plus table saw or radial arm because of expense and floor space
> involved.
> I thought of using a 16" Makita circular saw and making a frame for
> it to
> slide in which would basically be a LARGE sliding compound miter saw.
> The only problem I see so far is that I can only find a 108 tooth
> carbide blade and I am not sure of the quality of cut it will give.
> Advice/suggestions appreciated on:
> 1. Basic idea and/or other solutions
> 2 Quality of cut of 108 tooth blade
> 3. Source of 16" blades more than 108 teeth
>

ummm...bandsaw? with extension table/rollers/transfer balls to make it
easy to slide the column?

Hell, if this is production work, get a smallish Delta bandsaw, mount it on
a sliding platform....make a table for the columns...move the saw, not the
column.

RC

Richard Cline

in reply to "Art Ransom" on 15/08/2004 1:50 PM

18/08/2004 4:38 PM


Try a chain saw. If you don't want to buy one, you can rent from your
local rental place. Use a belt sander to smooth the surfaces.

Dick


> "Art Ransom" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:mSJTc.256468$a24.188193@attbi_s03:
>
> > I need to cut 5" columns in a single pass with same quality of cut
> > finish as my 10" carbide 100 tooth blade gives. Don't want to go to
> > 16" plus table saw or radial arm because of expense and floor space
> > involved.
> > I thought of using a 16" Makita circular saw and making a frame for
> > it to
> > slide in which would basically be a LARGE sliding compound miter saw.
> > The only problem I see so far is that I can only find a 108 tooth
> > carbide blade and I am not sure of the quality of cut it will give.
> > Advice/suggestions appreciated on:
> > 1. Basic idea and/or other solutions
> > 2 Quality of cut of 108 tooth blade
> > 3. Source of 16" blades more than 108 teeth
> >

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to "Art Ransom" on 15/08/2004 1:50 PM

15/08/2004 11:10 PM

Nova <[email protected]> wrote:

>Art Ransom wrote:
>
>> I need to cut 5" columns in a single pass with same quality of cut finish as
>> my 10" carbide 100 tooth blade gives. Don't want to go to 16" plus table
>> saw or radial arm because of expense and floor space involved.
>> I thought of using a 16" Makita circular saw and making a frame for it to
>> slide in which would basically be a LARGE sliding compound miter saw. The
>> only problem I see so far is that I can only find a 108 tooth carbide blade
>> and I am not sure of the quality of cut it will give.
>> Advice/suggestions appreciated on:
>> 1. Basic idea and/or other solutions
>> 2 Quality of cut of 108 tooth blade
>> 3. Source of 16" blades more than 108 teeth
>
>Tom Plamann's solution was to mount the arm of a cut off saw to his lathe. See:
>
> http://www.plamann.com/sys-tmpl/lathe/view.nhtml?profile=lathe&UID=10008

That is a very elegant solution, I must say. That must have required
some rather complex work with a dial indicator...

What about using a jump saw?

JP
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Meliora.

sf

skeezics

in reply to "Art Ransom" on 15/08/2004 1:50 PM

15/08/2004 2:05 PM

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:50:10 GMT, "Art Ransom" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I need to cut 5" columns in a single pass with same quality of cut finish as
>my 10" carbide 100 tooth blade gives. Don't want to go to 16" plus table
>saw or radial arm because of expense and floor space involved.
> I thought of using a 16" Makita circular saw and making a frame for it to
>slide in which would basically be a LARGE sliding compound miter saw. The
>only problem I see so far is that I can only find a 108 tooth carbide blade
>and I am not sure of the quality of cut it will give.
> Advice/suggestions appreciated on:
>1. Basic idea and/or other solutions
>2 Quality of cut of 108 tooth blade
>3. Source of 16" blades more than 108 teeth

check out the hitachi 15" miter saw. i have 2 of these and with the
100 tooth or the 110 tooth blade does a fine job. i can cut a 6x6
square all but the last 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch and a sander cleans up
the nub. they aint cheep but worth every penny IMO.

skeez


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