I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports. Trying to
reattach the door I've discovered that the wood will no longer
accepted new screws, the old ones being lost in the truck. Like I said
this is because the screws were torn from the chipboard under force!
I'm trying to figure out ways that I can make possible repairs to the
chipboard that would allow the screws to be recieved and the weight of
the door to be accepted again by the supports. The unit in question is
a bar unit and the door acts as an area to pour drinks. The inside of
the door had a mirrored sheet of glass (yet to be replaced).
Still looking for the hinges too! Who'd have thought they'd be a
nuisance to find!!
Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's. It
came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
Many Thanks
> On Sep 24, 4:55 pm, TrailRat <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
>> Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
>> smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports. Trying to
>> reattach the door I've discovered that the wood will no longer
>> accepted new screws, the old ones being lost in the truck. Like I said
>> this is because the screws were torn from the chipboard under force!
>> I'm trying to figure out ways that I can make possible repairs to the
>> chipboard that would allow the screws to be recieved and the weight of
>> the door to be accepted again by the supports. The unit in question is
>> a bar unit and the door acts as an area to pour drinks. The inside of
>> the door had a mirrored sheet of glass (yet to be replaced).
>>
>> Still looking for the hinges too! Who'd have thought they'd be a
>> nuisance to find!!
>>
>> Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
>> part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
>> new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's. It
>> came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
>>
>> Many Thanks
>
Car body filler works 100% for this. I have repaired old cupboards with
hinges torn out time and again.
On Sep 25, 10:38=A0am, TrailRat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 25 Sep, 10:13, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > A pic wuld be nice,we can all mae assumptions how to repair it but some
> > types of repair are not fiting for the job.
> The Damage -http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/TrailRat/P9251026.jpg
With damage that small you could just araldite a bit of dowel in
there, no need to go out and get anything.
NT
I don't totally understand the damage from the description. In a
typical stripped out screw hole we will take a bundle of toothpicks or
something like that, glom them with wood glue and tap them into the
hole. Let dry, trim flush, screw away.
On Sep 24, 4:55=A0pm, TrailRat <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
> Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
> smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports. Trying to
> reattach the door I've discovered that the wood will no longer
> accepted new screws, the old ones being lost in the truck. Like I said
> this is because the screws were torn from the chipboard under force!
> I'm trying to figure out ways that I can make possible repairs to the
> chipboard that would allow the screws to be recieved and the weight of
> the door to be accepted again by the supports. The unit in question is
> a bar unit and the door acts as an area to pour drinks. The inside of
> the door had a mirrored sheet of glass (yet to be replaced).
>
> Still looking for the hinges too! Who'd have thought they'd be a
> nuisance to find!!
>
> Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
> part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
> new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's. It
> came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
>
> Many Thanks
"TrailRat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9cf1ec4f-7087-495c-8841-fd496c69f304@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
> Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
> smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports. Trying to
> reattach the door I've discovered that the wood will no longer
> accepted new screws, the old ones being lost in the truck. Like I said
> this is because the screws were torn from the chipboard under force!
> I'm trying to figure out ways that I can make possible repairs to the
> chipboard that would allow the screws to be recieved and the weight of
> the door to be accepted again by the supports. The unit in question is
> a bar unit and the door acts as an area to pour drinks. The inside of
> the door had a mirrored sheet of glass (yet to be replaced).
>
> Still looking for the hinges too! Who'd have thought they'd be a
> nuisance to find!!
>
> Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
> part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
> new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's. It
> came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
>
> Many Thanks
A pencil sharpener will put a cone on a small dowel. Cut the cone off and
glue it in the old screw hole. After trimming the cone flush, drill a pilot
hole and insert the new screw. You can also whittle the cones, but a pencil
sharpener is quicker.
On 25 Sep, 10:13, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
> A pic wuld be nice,we can all mae assumptions how to repair it but some
> types of repair are not fiting for the job.
The Hinges - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/TrailRat/P9251022.jpg
The Damage - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/TrailRat/P9251026.jpg
And the unit - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/TrailRat/P9251029.jpg
TrailRat wrote:
> I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
> Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
> smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports. Trying to
> reattach the door I've discovered that the wood will no longer
> accepted new screws, the old ones being lost in the truck. Like I said
> this is because the screws were torn from the chipboard under force!
> I'm trying to figure out ways that I can make possible repairs to the
> chipboard that would allow the screws to be recieved and the weight of
> the door to be accepted again by the supports. The unit in question is
> a bar unit and the door acts as an area to pour drinks. The inside of
> the door had a mirrored sheet of glass (yet to be replaced).
>
> Still looking for the hinges too! Who'd have thought they'd be a
> nuisance to find!!
>
> Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
> part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
> new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's. It
> came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
>
> Many Thanks
You might find a suitable replacement hinge here:
<http://www.blum.com/gb/en/index.php>
Note: Their catalogues are the big PDF documents and have *lots* of
hinges and detail in them - including fixing positions, screw sizes, etc.
If so, you (probably) can get them from:
<http://www.isaaclord.co.uk/>
even if it needs a special order.
--
Rod
Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>
George wrote:
> "TrailRat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
>> part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
>> new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's. It
>> came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
>>
>> Many Thanks
>
> A pic wuld be nice,we can all mae assumptions how to repair it but some
> types of repair are not fiting for the job.
>
>
Car body filler every time.
"The Medway Handyman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> TrailRat wrote:
>> I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
>> Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
>> smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports.
>
> What sort of hinges & where is the damage in relation to them? Picky?
>
>
> --
> Dave - The Medway Handyman
> www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
>
>
Exactly.
"TrailRat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:644ef20c-c40c-463a-bc9e-299669700bf2@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On 25 Sep, 10:13, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A pic wuld be nice,we can all mae assumptions how to repair it but some
>> types of repair are not fiting for the job.
>
> The Hinges - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/TrailRat/P9251022.jpg
>
> The Damage - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/TrailRat/P9251026.jpg
>
> And the unit -
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/TrailRat/P9251029.jpg
I would just have moved the hinges a couple of inches further along. And
tidied up the damage with filler.
--
Bartc
TrailRat wrote:
>I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
Time for "snot" AKA: Epoxy thickened with microballoons.
Aggressively remove all damaged areas with 60 grit right angle sander.
Drill out all screw holes with a 3/4 dia bit.
Think of yourself as a dentist removing tooth decay before filling.
Once all damaged material has been removed, mix up some laminating
epoxy thickened with epoxy to the consistency of stiff snot and putty
all damaged areas proud.
Lay unit on side and tape underside of holes to trap snot in 3/4
holes.
Allow to cure 48 hours, then sand repair flush and drill hinge holes
as required.
When unit has returned to compost, epoxy patch will still be there,
Lew
On 25 Sep, 08:13, "The Medway Handyman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> TrailRat wrote:
> > I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
> > Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
> > smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports.
>
> What sort of hinges & where is the damage in relation to them? =A0Picky?
The hinges are a flush fitting flap hinges. They look like a number 8.
The damage to the wood isn't there though. The hinges themselves
smashed at the pin which makes them unusable now. Part metal, part
plastic these things were!! The damage to the wood is where the fall
flap stays were attached. The actual stays weren't damaged, just the
locations where they were mounted.
On Sep 25, 12:55=A0am, TrailRat <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
> Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
> smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports. Trying to
> reattach the door I've discovered that the wood will no longer
> accepted new screws, the old ones being lost in the truck. Like I said
> this is because the screws were torn from the chipboard under force!
> I'm trying to figure out ways that I can make possible repairs to the
> chipboard that would allow the screws to be recieved and the weight of
> the door to be accepted again by the supports. The unit in question is
> a bar unit and the door acts as an area to pour drinks. The inside of
> the door had a mirrored sheet of glass (yet to be replaced).
>
> Still looking for the hinges too! Who'd have thought they'd be a
> nuisance to find!!
>
> Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
> part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
> new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's. It
> came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
>
> Many Thanks
Ordinary woodfillers are much too weak for this, go with car body
filler.
The recessed hinges should be available at any BM or diy shed. There
are 2 sizes, and a few different opening patterns. Or you might have
sprung surface hinges - who knows.
NT
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:55:22 -0700 (PDT), TrailRat
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
>Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
>smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports. Trying to
>reattach the door I've discovered that the wood will no longer
>accepted new screws, the old ones being lost in the truck. Like I said
>this is because the screws were torn from the chipboard under force!
>I'm trying to figure out ways that I can make possible repairs to the
>chipboard that would allow the screws to be recieved and the weight of
>the door to be accepted again by the supports. The unit in question is
>a bar unit and the door acts as an area to pour drinks. The inside of
>the door had a mirrored sheet of glass (yet to be replaced).
>
>Still looking for the hinges too! Who'd have thought they'd be a
>nuisance to find!!
>
>Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
>part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
>new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's. It
>came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
>
>Many Thanks
Particleboard and chipboard don't hold screws very well, but I've
found that a piano hinge holds just fine. I guess it is the number
of screws that does the trick.
"TrailRat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9cf1ec4f-7087-495c-8841-fd496c69f304@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
> Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
> smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports. Trying to
> reattach the door I've discovered that the wood will no longer
> accepted new screws, the old ones being lost in the truck. Like I
> said
> this is because the screws were torn from the chipboard under force!
> I'm trying to figure out ways that I can make possible repairs to
> the
> chipboard that would allow the screws to be recieved and the weight
> of
> the door to be accepted again by the supports. The unit in question
> is
> a bar unit and the door acts as an area to pour drinks. The inside
> of
> the door had a mirrored sheet of glass (yet to be replaced).
>
> Still looking for the hinges too! Who'd have thought they'd be a
> nuisance to find!!
>
> Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
> part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
> new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's.
> It
> came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
>
> Many Thanks
If you have a largish area of tear out, you can fill with enough
sawdust and glue to
make a thick mixture and fill, let dry day or so, then sand, color the
repair with
a wax stick to match, then redrill
You could also fill with a reddish tinted bondo, (a little more
hardener in the mix) and redrill
If just a small tear out of the hole, then fill with a piece of glued
in dowel and redrill
with a good brad point bit. Better yet, drill with a hinge centering
bit which will prevent
the hole from getting off center in the hinge plate,
CC
"TrailRat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Before anyone suggests replacing the unit or the door, the unit is
> part of a set of units and any replacements would be out of place. A
> new unit is impossible because it was built late 70's/ early 80's. It
> came from my parents and I rather like the thing!
>
> Many Thanks
A pic wuld be nice,we can all mae assumptions how to repair it but some
types of repair are not fiting for the job.
TrailRat wrote:
> I'm trying to repair a wall unit that was damaged during transport.
> Basically a harsh stop forced the door to drop and the sudden drop
> smashed the hinges and tore out some other supports.
What sort of hinges & where is the damage in relation to them? Picky?
--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk