I just bought a numbah 8 Stanley Bailey for $50, I got lucky with the seller because
he wanted $95. This was seriously cool of him considering the ... you all know the
rest.
Anyway I click on http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/dating/
to find out the type from their "link flow" (as I call it), which is pretty nifty. It's got
two patent dates, so it is a type 9 or 10, yeah? Types 9-10: "Is the frog rib the enlarged
and arched type?" YES. Result is that it is a type 10. So then I click: "Go to the 'Plane
Type Study' (link) for information on features introduced in this plane type", made in
1907 - 1909:
"The rib (the one the frog rides over) is enlarged and arched."
Never saw any other kind in the older planes myself, it certainly "looks" enlarged and
arched... it is a center rib. It is about 3/16" or 1/4" wide, slopes downward to the
mouth.
"A frog adjustment screw, first offered on the Bed Rock planes, is now added."
Not on this one. There is no frog adjustment screw on the back and no tap for one.
"This is located below the frog, and engages a fork that is screwed to the frog. A turn
of this screw will move the frog forward or backward, depending on the direction it
is turned."
Not applicable.
Looking closely at blood and gore page # 1, I have a frog reciever that is not mentioned
or shown in the one picture of the four types, though it is closest to the third type. Mine
does not have the routed cut-out where the frog adjustment screw is usually screwed
into, no tap there, and that back outside wall of the reciever is flat. On the frog itself
there is no tap for the screw that holds the U-shaped thing that works with the frog
adjustment screw. It is the third type, only without frog adjustment.
This could not possibly be a frankenplane, it is too perfect, I know my intuition serves
me well on technical things. I do have a digital camera and do know Photoshop. Any
thoughts? Anyone got a type?
Alex
"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I just bought a numbah 8 Stanley Bailey for $50, I got lucky with the
> seller because
> he wanted $95. This was seriously cool of him considering the ... you all
> know the
> rest.
>
> Anyway I click on
> http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/dating/
> to find out the type from their "link flow" (as I call it), which is
> pretty nifty. It's got
> two patent dates, so it is a type 9 or 10, yeah? Types 9-10: "Is the frog
> rib the enlarged
> and arched type?" YES. Result is that it is a type 10. So then I click:
> "Go to the 'Plane
> Type Study' (link) for information on features introduced in this plane
> type", made in
> 1907 - 1909:
>
> "The rib (the one the frog rides over) is enlarged and arched."
>
> Never saw any other kind in the older planes myself, it certainly "looks"
> enlarged and
> arched... it is a center rib. It is about 3/16" or 1/4" wide, slopes
> downward to the
> mouth.
>
> "A frog adjustment screw, first offered on the Bed Rock planes, is now
> added."
>
> Not on this one. There is no frog adjustment screw on the back and no tap
> for one.
>
> "This is located below the frog, and engages a fork that is screwed to the
> frog. A turn
> of this screw will move the frog forward or backward, depending on the
> direction it
> is turned."
>
> Not applicable.
>
> Looking closely at blood and gore page # 1, I have a frog reciever that is
> not mentioned
> or shown in the one picture of the four types, though it is closest to the
> third type. Mine
> does not have the routed cut-out where the frog adjustment screw is
> usually screwed
> into, no tap there, and that back outside wall of the reciever is flat. On
> the frog itself
> there is no tap for the screw that holds the U-shaped thing that works
> with the frog
> adjustment screw. It is the third type, only without frog adjustment.
>
> This could not possibly be a frankenplane, it is too perfect, I know my
> intuition serves
> me well on technical things. I do have a digital camera and do know
> Photoshop. Any
> thoughts? Anyone got a type?
Yes. It's either a 9 or a 10. More likely than not a 9 as the 9 was
somewhat of a transition plane (between the 8 and 10). What happened was
you would get planes that were somewhat frankensteined from the factory.
Probably meant to confuse future collectors <g>. The same thing happened on
the Type 11 as it was also somewhat of a transition plane. Significant
frankensteining of the type 11 included the occasional tall front knob and
the infamous v-logo blade replaced with the type 9/10 blade (stanley rule
and level tm). Getting back to your plane though was the fact of the
missing frog adjustment screw. That was pretty much the giveaway that it is
more likely than not a number 9 that has some 10 characteristics. Don't
fight it. It will only drive you nuts.
SH
AAvK wrote:
> I don't want to fight it, I think it's unique that I got one that was made for such a short
> period of time, it doesn't bother me. The plane type link flow says because it has that fat
> arched rib, it is a type 10, so it is a very early one or a late type 9.
You can post pix if it worries you too much, but it's prolly a
9-10 just like you figured. Stnaley used parts 'till they ran
outta them so don't sweat it. Sharpen the sucker up and use it.
Count your planes and tell me when they shart invading the living
spaces. %-)
Dave in Fairfax
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AAvK wrote:
> I don't want to fight it, I think it's unique that I got one that was made for such a short
> period of time, it doesn't bother me. The plane type link flow says because it has that fat
> arched rib, it is a type 10, so it is a very early one or a late type 9.
You can post pix if it worries you too much, but it's prolly a
9-10 just like you figured. Stanley used parts 'till they ran
outta them, so don't sweat it. Sharpen the sucker up and use it.
Count your planes and tell me when they shart invading the living
spaces. %-)
Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/
> Yes. It's either a 9 or a 10. More likely than not a 9 as the 9 was
> somewhat of a transition plane (between the 8 and 10). What happened was
> you would get planes that were somewhat frankensteined from the factory.
> Probably meant to confuse future collectors <g>. The same thing happened on
> the Type 11 as it was also somewhat of a transition plane. Significant
> frankensteining of the type 11 included the occasional tall front knob and
> the infamous v-logo blade replaced with the type 9/10 blade (stanley rule
> and level tm). Getting back to your plane though was the fact of the
> missing frog adjustment screw. That was pretty much the giveaway that it is
> more likely than not a number 9 that has some 10 characteristics. Don't
> fight it. It will only drive you nuts.
> SH
>
>
I don't want to fight it, I think it's unique that I got one that was made for such a short
period of time, it doesn't bother me. The plane type link flow says because it has that fat
arched rib, it is a type 10, so it is a very early one or a late type 9. Awesome. The Frog
is still very adjustable because of slots for the screws that hold it down. It's also unique
because it's almost exactly like a pre-lateral frog but with lateral adjustment, and more
arched top. Thanks for the reply.
Alex
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:21:42 -0800, "AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>This could not possibly be a frankenplane, it is too perfect,
Big flat bit at the bottom ? Sharp thing sticking out ?
Congratulations, it's a plane. If you're lucky you even get handles.
> You can post pix if it worries you too much, but it's prolly a
> 9-10 just like you figured. Stnaley used parts 'till they ran
> outta them so don't sweat it. Sharpen the sucker up and use it.
> Count your planes and tell me when they shart invading the living
> spaces. %-)
>
>
The 8 is on a pile of clean folded laundry. No place to put it! Thanks for the encouragement.
Alex