I know this is OT, but there is sufficient genius here that I'd take a stab
at this.
So the latest project is for a home where some rocket scientist
remodeled it (pretty well, actually), but failed to put a wall
switch in the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp
(a standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with
a pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
I've tried the eSenLite - in fact two of them - and they have the same
defect - the delay timer to shutoff simply does not work. It either
shuts down after a few seconds or stays on for many minutes - the middle
adjustments don't work.
So - ideally - what I need is something that will fit into the existing
fixture as a bulb that will turn on- and off, strictly based on motion,
not ambient light. Failing that, a quality fixture replacement is not
out of the question.
Ideas?
On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 10:02:16 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
> On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> ...
>
> >
> > https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>
> I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
> is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
> fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
> just self-directed to the same page.
>
> You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
> a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
> from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
>
> --
Try this:
https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
On 2/22/2017 10:13 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 02/22/2017 10:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 10:02:16 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
> ...
>
>>> You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
>>> a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
>>> from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
>>>
>>> --
>> Try this:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
>>
>
> Thanks...Illumra site says 50-150 ft (typical). Probably won't make it,
> either as I'm guessing it's near 2X that max between locations.
>
> --
IIRC, the X-10 system utilizes the power line itself to carry the signal
to the remote (light). Thus, the only impediment to using it in your
particular application should be whether or not there is a transformer
between where you wire the transmitter (wall switch or whatever) and the
load/light.
On 2/22/2017 4:07 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 02/22/2017 10:49 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> ...
>
>> IIRC, the X-10 system utilizes the power line itself to carry the signal
>> to the remote (light). Thus, the only impediment to using it in your
>> particular application should be whether or not there is a transformer
>> between where you wire the transmitter (wall switch or whatever) and the
>> load/light.
>
> Yeah, the house (where would be nice for the remote switch) and barn
> (light) are fed from the same transformer. Started to say they weren't
> actually tied, but the feed does come down the pole to the meter and
> then back up and across the driveway to the barn while on underground to
> the house. I can't envision just now whether there's a double terminal
> block in that box or the two feeds have a common point or not--though
> guess they must, indirectly.
>
> So, that might work; hadn't really thought about that for this
> purpose...when nights get short what was a trivial walk in the dark when
> younger seems easier to trip or stumble or whatever any more...I've got
> to wearing one of the headband LEDs if I remember it but then it ends up
> at the wrong location all too often... :(
>
Happened to think of one other thing that MAY guide you on this.
I had a "wireless" intercom (over the household AC lines) between two
locations in the house and the shop which was in the detached
shop/garage 40' or so away. Same deal: signal traverses the power line
and no problem so long as there is no intervening transformer.
200AMP panel in the house and 100AMP panel in the shop/garage. NOT a
branch circuit as the UF for the garage is fed on my side of the power
meter where its tied to the same lugs as those that feed the house panel.
This worked fine for me so in your case, it should also.
On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 10:26:10 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:55:11 -0500, ads wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:02:14 -0600, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> >>...
> >>
> >>>
> >>> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
> >>
> >>I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
> >>is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
> >>fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
> >>just self-directed to the same page.
> >>
> >>You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
> >>a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
> >>from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
> >
> >The wired and wireless X-10 light switches and outlets will work if
> >the barn and the house outlet the wired X-10 wireless receiverr is
> >plugged into are on the same side of the split 220. The x-10 signals
> >over the house wiring and doesn't always make it to the "other side".
> >Yes, it's ancient technology - but it works. I have a houseful,
> >including a programmable timer (programmed from a PC) that can have
> >different lighting patterns every day for a year..
>
> X10 either works well or doesn't work at all. It's not just
> transformers that stop it (the two 120V legs can be tied together with
> a capacitor - X10 makes approved widgets for this purpose). Noise
> will also kill the X10 signal. If it works in your house, it's great
> stuff (for a 40 YO technology) but it often just doesn't.
Or does...then doesn't.
BTDT
On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:10:05 PM UTC-5, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> I know this is OT, but there is sufficient genius here that I'd take a stab
> at this.
>
> So the latest project is for a home where some rocket scientist
> remodeled it (pretty well, actually), but failed to put a wall
> switch in the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp
> (a standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with
> a pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
>
> I've tried the eSenLite - in fact two of them - and they have the same
> defect - the delay timer to shutoff simply does not work. It either
> shuts down after a few seconds or stays on for many minutes - the middle
> adjustments don't work.
>
> So - ideally - what I need is something that will fit into the existing
> fixture as a bulb that will turn on- and off, strictly based on motion,
> not ambient light. Failing that, a quality fixture replacement is not
> out of the question.
>
> Ideas?
If it were me, I'd replace it with a standard fixture and run a switch leg down to a wall switch.
I got tired of the pull chains in my closets and installed switches in them all.
It you don't want to fish wires, you could use surface mount wiring.
This should get you started...
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Legrand-Wiremold-15-Amp-Non-Metallic-Outlet-Box-with-Switch-White-NMW2-S/202264859
On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 7:43:17 AM UTC-6, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> "Tim Daneliuk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I know this is OT, but there is sufficient genius here that I'd take a
> > stab
> > at this.
> >
> > So the latest project is for a home where some rocket scientist
> > remodeled it (pretty well, actually), but failed to put a wall
> > switch in the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp
> > (a standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with
> > a pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
> >
> > I've tried the eSenLite - in fact two of them - and they have the same
> > defect - the delay timer to shutoff simply does not work. It either
> > shuts down after a few seconds or stays on for many minutes - the middle
> > adjustments don't work.
> >
> > So - ideally - what I need is something that will fit into the existing
> > fixture as a bulb that will turn on- and off, strictly based on motion,
> > not ambient light. Failing that, a quality fixture replacement is not
> > out of the question.
> >
> > Ideas?
>
> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>
> Dave in SoTex
That wireless switch is pretty danged awesome.
On 2/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
>
> "Tim Daneliuk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I know this is OT, but there is sufficient genius here that I'd take a
>> stab
>> at this.
>>
>> So the latest project is for a home where some rocket scientist
>> remodeled it (pretty well, actually), but failed to put a wall
>> switch in the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp
>> (a standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with
>> a pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
>>
>> I've tried the eSenLite - in fact two of them - and they have the same
>> defect - the delay timer to shutoff simply does not work. It either
>> shuts down after a few seconds or stays on for many minutes - the middle
>> adjustments don't work.
>>
>> So - ideally - what I need is something that will fit into the existing
>> fixture as a bulb that will turn on- and off, strictly based on motion,
>> not ambient light. Failing that, a quality fixture replacement is not
>> out of the question.
>>
>> Ideas?
>
> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>
> Dave in SoTex
http://www.rockler.com/cordless-rf-controlled-led-ceiling-light-set?sid=V20265&utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+Save+over+35%25+on+cordless+RF-controlled+led+ceiling+light+set&utm_content=Our+Winter+Flash+Sale+Is+Shining+Bright!&utm_campaign=022217_b_r_Winter+Flash+Sale_V20265
Jack <[email protected]> writes:
>On 2/22/2017 11:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 10:02:16 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
>>> On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>>>
>>> I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
>>> is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
>>> fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
>>> just self-directed to the same page.
>>>
>>> You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
>>> a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
>>> from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
>>>
>>> --
>> Try this:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
>
>Is it just me or are Amazons prices on this way out of line? HD
>apparently sells the same thing for around $15. $200+ for a $15 switch
>and no green on it anywhere? For 14 times more money, I would expect
>some green paint somewhere....
Perhaps you're comparing apples to oranges? The 15.10 GE wireless remote
wall switch is in no way comparable to the amazon offering that
you're comparing it to; amongst other things, they're designed
for different applications.
"Tim Daneliuk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I know this is OT, but there is sufficient genius here that I'd take a
> stab
> at this.
>
> So the latest project is for a home where some rocket scientist
> remodeled it (pretty well, actually), but failed to put a wall
> switch in the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp
> (a standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with
> a pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
>
> I've tried the eSenLite - in fact two of them - and they have the same
> defect - the delay timer to shutoff simply does not work. It either
> shuts down after a few seconds or stays on for many minutes - the middle
> adjustments don't work.
>
> So - ideally - what I need is something that will fit into the existing
> fixture as a bulb that will turn on- and off, strictly based on motion,
> not ambient light. Failing that, a quality fixture replacement is not
> out of the question.
>
> Ideas?
https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
Dave in SoTex
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:02:14 -0600, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
>...
>
>>
>> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>
>I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
>is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
>fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
>just self-directed to the same page.
>
>You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
>a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
>from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
The wired and wireless X-10 light switches and outlets will work if
the barn and the house outlet the wired X-10 wireless receiverr is
plugged into are on the same side of the split 220. The x-10 signals
over the house wiring and doesn't always make it to the "other side".
Yes, it's ancient technology - but it works. I have a houseful,
including a programmable timer (programmed from a PC) that can have
different lighting patterns every day for a year..
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:13:57 -0600, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 02/22/2017 10:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 10:02:16 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
>...
>
>>> You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
>>> a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
>>> from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
>>>
>>> --
>> Try this:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
>
>Thanks...Illumra site says 50-150 ft (typical). Probably won't make it,
>either as I'm guessing it's near 2X that max between locations.
Some of these things are in a "mesh network", so to double the range
just drop another switch or outlett in the middle.
dpb <[email protected]> writes:
>On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
>...
>
>>
>> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>
>I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
>is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
>fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
>just self-directed to the same page.
>
>You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
>a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
>from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
I wonder if X-10 would work in that application.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(industry_standard)
On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 5:10:05 PM UTC-8, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> So the latest project is for a home [without] a wall
> switch in the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp
> (a standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with
> a pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
So, get a low power LED bulb and leave a 5W light burning nearby, just
to illuminate the path to the main light switch. The basement here
got much safer when I did that.
In rec.woodworking, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> So the latest project is for a home where some rocket scientist
> remodeled it (pretty well, actually), but failed to put a wall
> switch in the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp
> (a standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with
> a pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
...
> Ideas?
Attach a longer string (or ball chain) to fixture, use eyelets to route
to doorway, have convience of pull string by door.
Elijah
------
optionally add weight to end of string (chain) to make it hang better
On 2/24/2017 10:16 AM, Jack wrote:
>>> --
>> Try this:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
>>
>
> Is it just me or are Amazons prices on this way out of line? HD
> apparently sells the same thing for around $15. $200+ for a $15 switch
> and no green on it anywhere? For 14 times more money, I would expect
> some green paint somewhere....
>
Comes up as $98.99 for me. Not sure it is the same thing as the HD switch.
On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
...
>
> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
just self-directed to the same page.
You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
--
On 02/22/2017 10:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 10:02:16 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
...
>> You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
>> a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
>> from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
>>
>> --
> Try this:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
Thanks...Illumra site says 50-150 ft (typical). Probably won't make it,
either as I'm guessing it's near 2X that max between locations.
--
On 02/22/2017 10:49 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
...
> IIRC, the X-10 system utilizes the power line itself to carry the signal
> to the remote (light). Thus, the only impediment to using it in your
> particular application should be whether or not there is a transformer
> between where you wire the transmitter (wall switch or whatever) and the
> load/light.
Yeah, the house (where would be nice for the remote switch) and barn
(light) are fed from the same transformer. Started to say they weren't
actually tied, but the feed does come down the pole to the meter and
then back up and across the driveway to the barn while on underground to
the house. I can't envision just now whether there's a double terminal
block in that box or the two feeds have a common point or not--though
guess they must, indirectly.
So, that might work; hadn't really thought about that for this
purpose...when nights get short what was a trivial walk in the dark when
younger seems easier to trip or stumble or whatever any more...I've got
to wearing one of the headband LEDs if I remember it but then it ends up
at the wrong location all too often... :(
--
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:03:38 -0600, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> So the latest project is for a home where some rocket scientist
> remodeled it (pretty well, actually), but failed to put a wall switch in
> the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp (a
> standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with a
> pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
There's always "The Clapper" :-).
--
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
On 02/22/2017 4:36 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
...
> I had a "wireless" intercom (over the household AC lines) between two
> locations in the house and the shop which was in the detached
> shop/garage 40' or so away. Same deal: signal traverses the power line
> and no problem so long as there is no intervening transformer.
I ran that here for quite a long time to get from upstairs to the
basement as access otherwise is difficult to come by...worked well until
one of the units died..
...
On 2/21/2017 8:03 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> I know this is OT, but there is sufficient genius here that I'd take a stab
> at this.
>
> So the latest project is for a home where some rocket scientist
> remodeled it (pretty well, actually), but failed to put a wall
> switch in the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp
> (a standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with
> a pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
>
> I've tried the eSenLite - in fact two of them - and they have the same
> defect - the delay timer to shutoff simply does not work. It either
> shuts down after a few seconds or stays on for many minutes - the middle
> adjustments don't work.
>
> So - ideally - what I need is something that will fit into the existing
> fixture as a bulb that will turn on- and off, strictly based on motion,
> not ambient light. Failing that, a quality fixture replacement is not
> out of the question.
>
> Ideas?
Home Depot sells wireless light switches starting around $15. I have 2
ceiling fans with lights that have this wireless switch:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-3-Speed-Ceiling-Fan-Control-99110/203689999
It controls the lights with 3 settings and the fan with 3 speeds. They
have been working perfect for about 3 years now. I would expect the
light switch only would work just as well. Both fans have no other
switch, so if they fail and were used because it was a whole lot easier
than fishing wire.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 2/22/2017 10:02 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> ...
>
>>
>> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>
> I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
> is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
> fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
> just self-directed to the same page.
>
> You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
> a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
> from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
I'm sure you thought of this but if you're talking about an outside
light, how about just a motion sensor light fixture? Wouldn't work with
trees blowing in the wind or large animals walking around, but otherwise
they work well.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 2/22/2017 11:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 10:02:16 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
>> On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>>
>> I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
>> is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
>> fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
>> just self-directed to the same page.
>>
>> You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
>> a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
>> from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
>>
>> --
> Try this:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
Is it just me or are Amazons prices on this way out of line? HD
apparently sells the same thing for around $15. $200+ for a $15 switch
and no green on it anywhere? For 14 times more money, I would expect
some green paint somewhere....
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 2/24/2017 1:39 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 2/24/2017 10:16 AM, Jack wrote:
>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Try this:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is it just me or are Amazons prices on this way out of line? HD
>>> apparently sells the same thing for around $15. $200+ for a $15 switch
>>> and no green on it anywhere? For 14 times more money, I would expect
>>> some green paint somewhere....
>>>
>>
>> Comes up as $98.99 for me. Not sure it is the same thing as the HD switch.
Just looked on Amazon again, still shows 1 new for just $209.94
> Not even close to the HD switch, which has a module that plugs into
> a wall plug, into which you plug the lamp. The Amazon version gets
> hardwired into the light fixture.
Big deal. My HD fan switch is hard wired into the fan/light fixture and
it costs just $31 and it controls the 3 speed ceiling fan and it's
lights on 3 settings.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-3-Speed-Ceiling-Fan-Control-99110/203689999
The referenced Amazon switch is just a basic light switch. If unable to
find a simple wireless light switch, you could buy the Fan switch and
use it just for lights. Surely one could find a wireless switch for a
heck of a lot less than the listed Amazon switch which is listed new as
$209.94.
If anything, I would think a module that is hard wired would be cheaper,
and one that only controls one light vs a fan and a light would be
cheaper as well. If anyone wishes to spend $209 for a basic wireless
light switch, by all means, go for it, myself, I'd look around a bit...
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 08:02:55 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:
>On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 10:02:16 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
>> On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> >
>> > https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>>
>> I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
>> is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
>> fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
>> just self-directed to the same page.
>>
>> You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
>> a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
>> from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
>>
>> --
>Try this:
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
Looks the same to me. Be nice if TOH had named the manugacturer - but
probably only if the manufacturer paid for the advertising.
Considering the price increases in the magazine and the decreases in
the number of issues, I'd say they're either not managing their income
or they're just plain greedy.
Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> writes:
>On 2/24/2017 10:16 AM, Jack wrote:
>
>>>> --
>>> Try this:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Wireless-Light-Switch-Kit/dp/B005B0AY0K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1487779345&sr=8-6&keywords=wireless+light+switch
>>>
>>
>> Is it just me or are Amazons prices on this way out of line? HD
>> apparently sells the same thing for around $15. $200+ for a $15 switch
>> and no green on it anywhere? For 14 times more money, I would expect
>> some green paint somewhere....
>>
>
>Comes up as $98.99 for me. Not sure it is the same thing as the HD switch.
Not even close to the HD switch, which has a module that plugs into
a wall plug, into which you plug the lamp. The Amazon version gets
hardwired into the light fixture.
On 02/21/2017 07:03 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> I know this is OT, but there is sufficient genius here that I'd take a stab
> at this.
>
> So the latest project is for a home where some rocket scientist
> remodeled it (pretty well, actually), but failed to put a wall
> switch in the laundry room. This is roughly a 10x10 area with the lamp
> (a standard hallway style glass dome) more or less centered on it with
> a pull string. This is untenable for the homeowner when it is dark.
>
> I've tried the eSenLite - in fact two of them - and they have the same
> defect - the delay timer to shutoff simply does not work. It either
> shuts down after a few seconds or stays on for many minutes - the middle
> adjustments don't work.
>
> So - ideally - what I need is something that will fit into the existing
> fixture as a bulb that will turn on- and off, strictly based on motion,
> not ambient light. Failing that, a quality fixture replacement is not
> out of the question.
>
> Ideas?
>
Thanks all for your thoughts. I am going to give this a whirl next:
https://www.amazon.com/Acegoo-Wireless-Lights-Switch-Kit/dp/B015E7DTW4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1487809638&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=wireless+light+switch&psc=1
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:55:11 -0500, ads wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:02:14 -0600, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 02/22/2017 7:43 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
>>...
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-wireless-light-switch
>>
>>I couldn't find any way to actually find out what the device itself
>>is/who's the manufacturer...the page had so much ad copy never loaded
>>fully and the link to "purchase list" or whatever it was actually called
>>just self-directed to the same page.
>>
>>You got the product info; what kind of range does the switch have; only
>>a few feet? I've kept eyes out for long-range switch for barn light
>>from house w/o having to wire it but it's 100 yds or thereabouts away...
>
>The wired and wireless X-10 light switches and outlets will work if
>the barn and the house outlet the wired X-10 wireless receiverr is
>plugged into are on the same side of the split 220. The x-10 signals
>over the house wiring and doesn't always make it to the "other side".
>Yes, it's ancient technology - but it works. I have a houseful,
>including a programmable timer (programmed from a PC) that can have
>different lighting patterns every day for a year..
X10 either works well or doesn't work at all. It's not just
transformers that stop it (the two 120V legs can be tied together with
a capacitor - X10 makes approved widgets for this purpose). Noise
will also kill the X10 signal. If it works in your house, it's great
stuff (for a 40 YO technology) but it often just doesn't.
On 02/22/2017 04:45 PM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 2/21/2017 8:03 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> I've tried the eSenLite - in fact two of them
>
> With the sky-high claims they make for their product and at the price they charge they certainly should be able to provide at least a reply to an email or phone call. Have you tried contacting them?
No, I just gave up. Life is too short to chase half engineered products around.
I did, however, find this partly due to this thread giving me some ideas:
https://www.amazon.com/Acegoo-Wireless-Lights-Switch-Kit/dp/B015E7DTW4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1487809638&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=wireless+light+switch&psc=1