http://www.cornerhardware.com/articles/art101.html
I had thought I had posted this earlier, but when I went to look
for it, to make some additional comments, it wasn't there. On the other
hand, the other post may still show up in a day or two.
Normally I don't care for lids on toy boxes for little kids, for
several reasons. But, the idea of two lids is neat. For little kids,
you can just leave them open all the time, and they can get toys out, or
dunk them back in easily.
I would not use metal corner braces as shown in the plan. You
could use glue blocks, which would be better, or glue a strip the length
of the join, which I prefer. I did one like that, with strips, maybe 6
years ago, and it's still holding up great - Titebond II, and just a few
brads to hold everything aligned, until the glue set. The only thing I
wish I handn't done, was paint the sides dark blue. I feel I probably
had more colors than just that on hand, so I have no idea why dark blue.
I'd repaint it, but the grand-dau won't give it up.
JOAT
We've got a lot of experience of not having any experience.
- Nanny Ogg
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://www.cornerhardware.com/articles/art101.html
>
> I had thought I had posted this earlier, but when I went to look
> for it, to make some additional comments, it wasn't there. On the other
> hand, the other post may still show up in a day or two.
>
> Normally I don't care for lids on toy boxes for little kids, for
> several reasons. But, the idea of two lids is neat. For little kids,
> you can just leave them open all the time, and they can get toys out, or
> dunk them back in easily.
>
> I would not use metal corner braces as shown in the plan. You
> could use glue blocks, which would be better, or glue a strip the length
> of the join, which I prefer. I did one like that, with strips, maybe 6
> years ago, and it's still holding up great - Titebond II, and just a few
> brads to hold everything aligned, until the glue set. The only thing I
> wish I handn't done, was paint the sides dark blue. I feel I probably
> had more colors than just that on hand, so I have no idea why dark blue.
> I'd repaint it, but the grand-dau won't give it up.
>
> JOAT
>
> We've got a lot of experience of not having any experience.
> - Nanny Ogg
>
I just built a knotty pine toybox with box-jointed, 3/8" rounded corners,
child's name hand carved in front surrounded by rectangular ogee rout with
1" radiused corners . Lid is Birch ply edged with pine trim, piano hinged
with spring-loaded lid support that holds the lid in any position. It turned
out quite nice. If I had a way to host pics, I'd post a link.
I built one of these 13 years ago with the same lid support, still works
like new.
Jerry
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 11:16am (EDT-1) [email protected] (Jerry Shaw)
says:
<snip> Lid is Birch ply edged with pine trim, piano hinged with
spring-loaded lid support that holds the lid in any position. <snip>
Among the various reasons I don't like lids on toy boxes for small
kids, you get two kids, if possible, one is going to slam the lid on the
other's fingers.
True, but that could happen with kitchen cabs, closet doors, etc.,. But
point taken, there is likely to be more horsing around with a toy box.
Another reason, two kids, one is gonna get in the toy
box, and the other is goina sit on the lid, and not let the other out.
JOAT
We've got a lot of experience of not having any experience.
- Nanny Ogg
My design has large oval holes in the sides for handles (rounded over, of
course). When my buddy saw it, he said, "Ah, air holes!" He told me of the
time when his daughter hid in a toy box waiting for her parents to come home
so she could surprise them. She fell asleep in the box before they got home,
and they were about ready to call the police when they finally found her,
still asleep, hyperventilating, sweating profusely.
But again, point taken. You can't be too careful when designing for children
Jerry
Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 11:16am (EDT-1) [email protected] (Jerry=A0Shaw)
says:
<snip> Lid is Birch ply edged with pine trim, piano hinged with
spring-loaded lid support that holds the lid in any position. <snip>
Among the various reasons I don't like lids on toy boxes for small
kids, you get two kids, if possible, one is going to slam the lid on the
other's fingers. Another reason, two kids, one is gonna get in the toy
box, and the other is goina sit on the lid, and not let the other out.
JOAT
We've got a lot of experience of not having any experience.
- Nanny Ogg
[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:7435-410035FA-232@storefull-
3152.bay.webtv.net:
> Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 11:16am (EDT-1) [email protected] (Jerry Shaw)
> says:
> <snip> Lid is Birch ply edged with pine trim, piano hinged with
> spring-loaded lid support that holds the lid in any position. <snip>
>
> Among the various reasons I don't like lids on toy boxes for small
> kids, you get two kids, if possible, one is going to slam the lid on the
> other's fingers. Another reason, two kids, one is gonna get in the toy
> box, and the other is goina sit on the lid, and not let the other out.
>
> JOAT
>
That sounds like the voice of experience speaking...
Patriarch
Jerry Shaw wrote:
>
> "J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 11:16am (EDT-1) [email protected] (Jerry Shaw)
> says:
> <snip> Lid is Birch ply edged with pine trim, piano hinged with
> spring-loaded lid support that holds the lid in any position. <snip>
>
> Among the various reasons I don't like lids on toy boxes for small
> kids, you get two kids, if possible, one is going to slam the lid on the
> other's fingers.
>
> True, but that could happen with kitchen cabs, closet doors, etc.,. But
> point taken, there is likely to be more horsing around with a toy box.
>
> Another reason, two kids, one is gonna get in the toy
> box, and the other is goina sit on the lid, and not let the other out.
>
> JOAT
>
> We've got a lot of experience of not having any experience.
> - Nanny Ogg
>
>
>
> My design has large oval holes in the sides for handles (rounded over, of
> course). When my buddy saw it, he said, "Ah, air holes!" He told me of the
> time when his daughter hid in a toy box waiting for her parents to come
> home so she could surprise them. She fell asleep in the box before they
> got home, and they were about ready to call the police when they finally
> found her, still asleep, hyperventilating, sweating profusely.
>
> But again, point taken. You can't be too careful when designing for
> children
There's also the fear factor. When I was a kid I had two toyboxes, one with
a simple, light, flat lid and the other with a larger, much heavier framed
lid. That heavy lid scared the crap out of me--it probably weighed half
what I did, and, because when open it protruded several inches past the
back of the box, it tended to close unexpectedly if the box got pushed
against the wall, and when it closed it did so with a certain finality.
My parents never could figure out why I wouldn't put my toys in the new box
and being a kid it never occurred to me to do anything so silly as admit
that it scared me.
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--John
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