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"jack"

01/11/2004 10:45 AM

Compressor question : Beginner

Hello,
There are so many choices for compressors. I understand that getting
oil-lubed is the way to go. It seems that PC, and Dewalt get alot of
attention. The Husky brand is campbell hausfield. blah blah....
I have a senco finish nailer, and a PC framing nailer
Here is my project list...Finish basement (frame/trim),12x16 barn,finish
work upstairs

Beginner question : I have read the reviews of PC pancake compressors, and
from what I have read, they are not great. What would you buy that would
not break the bank ?

Thanks again (and again) for your patience.
-Jack



This topic has 10 replies

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"mp"

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

01/11/2004 8:12 AM

> Beginner question : I have read the reviews of PC pancake compressors, and
> from what I have read, they are not great. What would you buy that would
> not break the bank ?

I just picked up a Makita MAC700. It's oil-lubed, small and portable, like
many others in it's price range, but what sold me is how quiet it is. You
can have it in the same room you're working in and carry on a normal
conversation. No earplugs or yelling required.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

01/11/2004 7:24 PM

jack wrote:

> Hello,
> There are so many choices for compressors. I understand that getting
> oil-lubed is the way to go. It seems that PC, and Dewalt get alot of
> attention. The Husky brand is campbell hausfield. blah blah....
> I have a senco finish nailer, and a PC framing nailer
> Here is my project list...Finish basement (frame/trim),12x16 barn,finish
> work upstairs
>
> Beginner question : I have read the reviews of PC pancake compressors, and
> from what I have read, they are not great. What would you buy that would
> not break the bank ?
>
> Thanks again (and again) for your patience.
> -Jack
>
>
>
If you will have to be working near it, go for a belt driven instead of
direct drive. They are much quieter.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

It is fatal to live too long.






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Rr

"RonB"

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

02/11/2004 8:31 AM

>>
> If you will have to be working near it, go for a belt driven instead of
> direct drive. They are much quieter.
>
I really don't know if the oiled machines are that much quieter (db level)
than the oil-less. But the type of sound that comes from the oil-less makes
my hair hurt. I'll take an oiled pumper any day. They seem to last longer
too.

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

01/11/2004 10:50 AM

If this is your only compressor, I suggest you look at something that will
support more than nailing. The pancakes and other portables support nailers
but not much else. If you get compressed air in your shop you, will find a
lot of other uses (air tools, sanding, painting, blowing debris out of tools
and garage, tires, cleaning lawnmower base, etc.)

My machine is a Campbell Hausfield 30 gallon, 5HP, oiled upright on wheels.
It resembles the 60-80 gallon uprights but the whole thing only sits about
4' high and uses a little less floorspace than some of the smaller
horizontal tank compressors. I have had it about three years and it
replaced another 20+ year old CH machine.

By the way, if your garage happens to adjoin your basement, especially the
equipment room, it is pretty easy and cheap to plumb air into the basement.
I ran a 3' piece of gas pipe through the 2x10 base plate, from garage into
the basement. I put a male quick-connector on the garage end and an elbow
and female quick connect in the basement. When I was working on the
basement finish I just kept the compressor, in the garage, hooked to one end
and had a basement air source on the other. Whole thing probably cost about
$10-15.

Even after the basement finish it is pretty neat having compressed air to
blow debris out of the bottom of the furnace, etc.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

02/11/2004 2:39 PM


"RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>
>> If you will have to be working near it, go for a belt driven instead of
>> direct drive. They are much quieter.
>>
> I really don't know if the oiled machines are that much quieter (db level)
> than the oil-less. But the type of sound that comes from the oil-less
> makes my hair hurt. I'll take an oiled pumper any day. They seem to last
> longer too.

Yeah, the oiled ones tend to be quieter. I can have a conversation standing
next to both my direct and belt driven oil lubed compressors.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

02/11/2004 1:33 AM


"Gerald Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> jack wrote:
> If you will have to be working near it, go for a belt driven instead of
> direct drive. They are much quieter.


Actually I have a direct drive oil lubed compressor and it is pretty quiet.
I can hardly tell the difference between it and my belt driven unit that is
pretty quiet also. I think it is the oil lube that makes the biggest
difference in noise.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

01/11/2004 10:44 AM

"jack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Beginner question : I have read the reviews of PC pancake compressors, and
> from what I have read, they are not great. What would you buy that would
> not break the bank ?

Nail guns work fine with the smaller compressors. If that's all you'd think
that you might use a compressor for, then almost anyone might do. However,
if later on, you think you might buy a ratchet air tool, nut driver, air
driven sander or something that requires a continuous flow of air, the
bigger ones are needed for that type of equipment.

I've got a 3 gallon hot dog compressor. All I've used it for is a nail gun,
blasts of air to push around sawdust and filling tires. I've had it for five
years and it does everything I've asked of it.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

01/11/2004 3:42 PM


"jack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:dEshd.30888$G15.23268@fed1read03...
> Hello,
> There are so many choices for compressors. I understand that getting
> oil-lubed is the way to go. It seems that PC, and Dewalt get alot of
> attention. The Husky brand is campbell hausfield. blah blah....
> I have a senco finish nailer, and a PC framing nailer
> Here is my project list...Finish basement (frame/trim),12x16 barn,finish
> work upstairs
>
> Beginner question : I have read the reviews of PC pancake compressors, and
> from what I have read, they are not great. What would you buy that would
> not break the bank ?

If you need a compressor to power nail guns, pick one. Pancakes were
basically designed for nail gun use. Of course if you think you will use a
tool that will require more air "volume" get a larger compressor. For your
ears sake, typically oil lubed will be quieter and will last longer.

CS

"Charles Spitzer"

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

02/11/2004 8:46 AM


"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:45:45 -0500, "jack" <[email protected]> calmly
> ranted:
>
>>Hello,
>>There are so many choices for compressors. I understand that getting
>>oil-lubed is the way to go. It seems that PC, and Dewalt get alot of
>>attention. The Husky brand is campbell hausfield. blah blah....
>>I have a senco finish nailer, and a PC framing nailer
>>Here is my project list...Finish basement (frame/trim),12x16 barn,finish
>>work upstairs
>>
>>Beginner question : I have read the reviews of PC pancake compressors, and
>>from what I have read, they are not great. What would you buy that would
>>not break the bank ?
>
> I'm a real tighta^H^H^H^H^H^Hfrugal person. I settled on the
> 4hp (right) 20-gal. Harbor Freight vertical when it was on
> sale for $159.95 and am happy with it. ($169.99 right now.)
> www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47065
> It's not as quiet as a US made compressor, but it's an oil sump
> box at half to a third the price, too. That beats the 3/4hp Rand
> pump I had been using with a couple 5-gal. tanks.
>

i have the same one. wait until you try to get parts for it. no one locally
will stock them. they have to come from italy, will take 12 weeks, and they
will send you the wrong part 3 times before stating they don't know what to
send to you and try elsewhere. damhikt.

> --
> "Given the low level of competence among politicians,
> every American should become a Libertarian."
> -- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "jack" on 01/11/2004 10:45 AM

01/11/2004 4:02 PM

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:45:45 -0500, "jack" <[email protected]> calmly
ranted:

>Hello,
>There are so many choices for compressors. I understand that getting
>oil-lubed is the way to go. It seems that PC, and Dewalt get alot of
>attention. The Husky brand is campbell hausfield. blah blah....
>I have a senco finish nailer, and a PC framing nailer
>Here is my project list...Finish basement (frame/trim),12x16 barn,finish
>work upstairs
>
>Beginner question : I have read the reviews of PC pancake compressors, and
>from what I have read, they are not great. What would you buy that would
>not break the bank ?

I'm a real tighta^H^H^H^H^H^Hfrugal person. I settled on the
4hp (right) 20-gal. Harbor Freight vertical when it was on
sale for $159.95 and am happy with it. ($169.99 right now.)
www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47065
It's not as quiet as a US made compressor, but it's an oil sump
box at half to a third the price, too. That beats the 3/4hp Rand
pump I had been using with a couple 5-gal. tanks.


--
"Given the low level of competence among politicians,
every American should become a Libertarian."
-- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003


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