I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler :-) ) that lumberyards frequently use
to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. It's 18" to 2' long, and has a
metal hook at one end. The hook serves a dual purpose of hooking over the
edge of the boards to slide them around (secondary purpose), but it also
serves as a small hammer which leaves a small dimple in the board which is
used as a reference point for the next swing of the rule/hammer. The way I
understand that it's used is you measure the width of the board, find that
marking on the body of the rule and use that point as a pivot to walk/mark
your way to the end of the board, and the number of swings is the number of
bdft.
Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
Thanks!
Joe
"joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Tim W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> What is a Board Foot?
>>
>>
> 144 cubic inches or 0.002359 cubic meters
>
Alright. A twelfth of a cubic foot. excellent. And you see what a stupid way
of measuring timber a cubic meter is. Order it over the phone and you may
get ten times or a tenth of what you wanted.
Luckily a square meter is quite close to ten square feet so an old bloke
like me can think in cubic feet then easily approximate to cubic meters by
multiplying by ten, er I mean a hundred, no ten thousand if you started with
board feet but only one thousand from cubic feet which is three decimal
places to the left, no right I think, always remmember a four figure number
that's three decimal places except we want four. Anyway you can use a
calculator.
Tim w
[email protected] (Ross Hebeisen) wrote in news:9034-47D7E175-802
@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com:
> you ever sit in one place to long and have your leg and foot fall to
> sleep? now thatsa one board foot.
> ross
>
No, I think a board foot is a wooden replacement foot for amputees.
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"joe" <[email protected]> wrote in news:7hsCj.43623$G23.23841
@newsreading01.news.tds.net:
>
>> You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape.
>>
>
> Blasphemer! <g>
>
> Obviously no McGyver fan. You can do *anything* with enough caulk,
> cardboard and duct tape
>
> jc
>
>
Nope, you need some metals in there somewhere. Without them, there's a
whole world unavailable to you.
(Obligitory wood content.) You could probably make boards out of caulk,
and work them just like you'd work wood. Depends on the caulk...
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joe wrote:
>> You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape.
>>
>
> Blasphemer! <g>
>
> Obviously no McGyver fan. You can do *anything* with enough caulk,
> cardboard and duct tape
But only if you also have chewing gum and a Swiss Army Knife.
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On Mar 11, 1:24=A0pm, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler =A0:-) =A0) that lumberyards frequentl=
y use
> to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. =A0It's 18" to 2' long, and h=
as a
> metal hook at one end. =A0The hook serves a dual purpose of hooking over t=
he
> edge of the boards to slide them around (secondary purpose), but it also
> serves as a small hammer which leaves a small dimple in the board which is=
> used as a reference point for the next swing of the rule/hammer. =A0The wa=
y I
> understand that it's used is you measure the width of the board, find that=
> marking on the body of the rule and use that point as a pivot to walk/mark=
> your way to the end of the board, and the number of swings is the number o=
f
> bdft.
>
> Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe
Sure Joe, here's one.
http://www.forestry-suppliers.com/product_pages/View_Catalog_Page.asp?mi=3D1=
448
DonkeyHody
"Even an old blind hog finds an acorn every now and then."
I use something like that method when I golf. When on the green, I place my
ball marker directly behind my ball. When replacing the ball, I put it 33%
closer to the hole than where the ball marker is.
Seems slightly more ethical when golfing.
In all seriousness, one of the lumberyards I go to has a guy who applies
the inverse of your rule (is that a drive-by gloat? I forget the rules). I
get the best deals there everytime. AAMOF, if I go and he's not working,
I'll just peruse the piles, then go back home and try again the next day.
jc
One
"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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To learn how to properly utilize this instrument, follow the
directions precisely to get an accurate accounting of the actual bf of
a piece of lumber, then as the customer looks away add approximately
33% just to help the companies bottom line.
On Mar 11, 11:24 am, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler :-) ) that lumberyards frequently use
> to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. It's 18" to 2' long, and has
> a
> metal hook at one end. The hook serves a dual purpose of hooking over the
> edge of the boards to slide them around (secondary purpose), but it also
> serves as a small hammer which leaves a small dimple in the board which is
> used as a reference point for the next swing of the rule/hammer. The way I
> understand that it's used is you measure the width of the board, find that
> marking on the body of the rule and use that point as a pivot to walk/mark
> your way to the end of the board, and the number of swings is the number
> of
> bdft.
>
> Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe
"Tim W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler :-) ) that lumberyards frequently
>> use to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. [...]
>>
>> Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
>>
> I don't have any idea what you are talking about. We used to measure
> timber in cubic feet and now we use cubic meters. What is a Board Foot?
>
> Tim w
>
144 cubic inches or 0.002359 cubic meters
Jc
"joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler :-) ) that lumberyards frequently
> use to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. [...]
>
> Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
>
I don't have any idea what you are talking about. We used to measure timber
in cubic feet and now we use cubic meters. What is a Board Foot?
Tim w
>
> Luckily a square meter is quite close to ten square feet so an old bloke
> like me can think in cubic feet then easily approximate to cubic meters by
> multiplying by ten, er I mean a hundred, no ten thousand if you started
> with board feet but only one thousand from cubic feet which is three
> decimal places to the left, no right I think, always remmember a four
> figure number that's three decimal places except we want four. Anyway you
> can use a calculator.
>
> Tim w
>
You're making my brain hurt. <g>
Joe
joe wrote:
> I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler :-) ) that lumberyards frequently use
> to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. It's 18" to 2' long, and has a
> metal hook at one end. The hook serves a dual purpose of hooking over the
> edge of the boards to slide them around (secondary purpose), but it also
> serves as a small hammer which leaves a small dimple in the board which is
> used as a reference point for the next swing of the rule/hammer. The way I
> understand that it's used is you measure the width of the board, find that
> marking on the body of the rule and use that point as a pivot to walk/mark
> your way to the end of the board, and the number of swings is the number of
> bdft.
>
> Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe
>
>
They're "lumber rules". See:
http://www.conwaycleveland.com/lumber_rules.html
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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
"joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler :-) ) that lumberyards frequently
> use to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. It's 18" to 2' long, and
> has a metal hook at one end. The hook serves a dual purpose of hooking
> over the edge of the boards to slide them around (secondary purpose), but
> it also serves as a small hammer which leaves a small dimple in the board
> which is used as a reference point for the next swing of the rule/hammer.
> The way I understand that it's used is you measure the width of the board,
> find that marking on the body of the rule and use that point as a pivot to
> walk/mark your way to the end of the board, and the number of swings is
> the number of bdft.
>
> Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe
>
Thanks guys.
Joe
>
To learn how to properly utilize this instrument, follow the
directions precisely to get an accurate accounting of the actual bf of
a piece of lumber, then as the customer looks away add approximately
33% just to help the companies bottom line.
On Mar 11, 11:24=A0am, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler =A0:-) =A0) that lumberyards frequentl=
y use
> to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. =A0It's 18" to 2' long, and h=
as a
> metal hook at one end. =A0The hook serves a dual purpose of hooking over t=
he
> edge of the boards to slide them around (secondary purpose), but it also
> serves as a small hammer which leaves a small dimple in the board which is=
> used as a reference point for the next swing of the rule/hammer. =A0The wa=
y I
> understand that it's used is you measure the width of the board, find that=
> marking on the body of the rule and use that point as a pivot to walk/mark=
> your way to the end of the board, and the number of swings is the number o=
f
> bdft.
>
> Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joe
Yeah, one place that I frequent is pretty open about adding in some
specific percentage to account for the skip planing and straight
edging, etc. I always tell them that is a scam in my opinin and they
should just add it into the bf price. But no, they just add in some
non-existant bf. They alway claim FAS grade too but they won't let me
charge back the knots, cracks and white wood that make 20%+ drop very
common.
I feel it is like advertising a piece of furniture at $500 and then
when someone wants to buy it I tell them I am adding another $20 for
lacquer and wax.
On Mar 11, 12:38=A0pm, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I use something like that method when I golf. =A0When on the green, I plac=
e my
> ball marker directly behind my ball. =A0When replacing the ball, I put it =
33%
> closer to the hole than where the ball marker is.
>
> Seems slightly more ethical when golfing.
>
> In all seriousness, one of the lumberyards I =A0go to has a guy who applie=
s
> the inverse of your rule (is that a drive-by gloat? =A0I forget the rules)=
. =A0I
> get the best deals there everytime. =A0AAMOF, if I go and he's not working=
,
> I'll just peruse the piles, then go back home and try again the next day.
>
> jc
>
> One"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:db2339dd-0e75-4e2f-a515-d040ae4bf614@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> To learn how to properly utilize this instrument, follow the
> directions precisely to get an accurate accounting of the actual bf of
> a piece of lumber, then as the customer looks away add approximately
> 33% just to help the companies bottom line.
>
> On Mar 11, 11:24 am, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler :-) ) that lumberyards frequently us=
e
> > to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. It's 18" to 2' long, and ha=
s
> > a
> > metal hook at one end. The hook serves a dual purpose of hooking over th=
e
> > edge of the boards to slide them around (secondary purpose), but it also=
> > serves as a small hammer which leaves a small dimple in the board which =
is
> > used as a reference point for the next swing of the rule/hammer. The way=
I
> > understand that it's used is you measure the width of the board, find th=
at
> > marking on the body of the rule and use that point as a pivot to walk/ma=
rk
> > your way to the end of the board, and the number of swings is the number=
> > of
> > bdft.
>
> > Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it=
?
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Joe- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Tim W wrote:
> "joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Tim W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> What is a Board Foot?
>>>
>>>
>> 144 cubic inches or 0.002359 cubic meters
>>
> Alright. A twelfth of a cubic foot. excellent. And you see what a
> stupid way of measuring timber a cubic meter is. Order it over the
> phone and you may get ten times or a tenth of what you wanted.
How about two and a half liters? Works as well for dry measure as for
liquid.
> Luckily a square meter is quite close to ten square feet so an old
> bloke like me can think in cubic feet then easily approximate to
> cubic meters by multiplying by ten, er I mean a hundred, no ten
> thousand if you started with board feet but only one thousand from
> cubic feet which is three decimal places to the left, no right I
> think, always remmember a four figure number that's three decimal
> places except we want four. Anyway you can use a calculator.
>
> Tim w
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joe wrote:
>
>
> Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
One of the magazines, maybe Popular "Woodworking" or "Woodworking"
recently had an article on how to make one. Essentially, it was a
hooked ruler with columns for the length of the board. The user reads
the width directly to the length for the board feet.
They're not a precision device, so it looked easy. I think he marked
4-5-6-7-8 foot columns, which were doubled for 8-10-12-14-16 foot
boards. He may also have made versions for different thicknesses of
stock.
If you can't find the article, you could easily make one with basic math
and the photos from the other links. My local dealer uses rulers that
appear to be shop made.
Tim W wrote:
> "joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I'm looking for a rule (not a ruler :-) ) that lumberyards frequently
>>use to calculate the number of bd ft in a board. [...]
>>
>>Anyone know what I'm talking about, what it's called and where to get it?
>>
>
> I don't have any idea what you are talking about. We used to measure timber
> in cubic feet and now we use cubic meters. What is a Board Foot?
>
> Tim w
12" x 12" x 1" = 1 board foot
Standard measurement for rough lumber for non construction
hardwoods. IOW, when you go down to buy some cherry or maple in
4/4 or 8/4, you are going to buy it by the board foot.
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Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX