DM

Dan Musicant

30/08/2003 7:01 PM

Why punch holes in sandpaper for Makita finishing sander?

I've had this sander for years, model BO4550. It's OPM14000, 1.6 amp. I
just noticed the plate that was supplied to punch two rows of holes, 3
holes/row in the sandpaper. What's the point of doing that. I've never
used it. Thanks for the clarification.

Dan

Followup. I guess it maybe is to aid sucking saw dust into the supplied
dust bag. I don't generally use that. Is it really effective? It's
pretty tiny.


This topic has 6 replies

Rl

Ramsey

in reply to Dan Musicant on 30/08/2003 7:01 PM

02/09/2003 2:36 PM

You'll eat up a hole punch in a hurry. Use a disk with the pre-cut
holes in it and mark where you want the new holes to be in your new
piece of sandpaper. Take a punch (flat point) and place it over the
hole and on a piece of pine or other soft wood. Use a hammer to hit
the punch and it will leave the hole right where you want it. Vary the
diameter of the hole by the size of the punch. This also works with
sheet metal and leather. By the way, not to sure how long regular
sandpaper will last.

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:08:00 GMT, Dan Musicant
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 08:37:51 GMT, "Ron Magen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>:Depending on the design, there may be an adapter to hook-up a 'shop vac'.
>:
>:The DeWalt has one, however my Ryobi doesn't; it uses a similar 'hole punch
>:plated' . Although the 'coupling' design is similar, the dimensions don't
>:match.
>:
>:Although it is a 'finishing' sander, not meant for heavy work, I did use it
>:to sand the bottom of a 19 foot sailboat {while it was on it's trailer}. The
>:anti-fouling paint dust had to be 'captured'.
>:
>:Regards & Good Luck,
>:Ron Magen
>:Backyard Boatshop
>
>Thanks, Ron. I have a shopvac, a ShopVac QSP Pro 8.0 gallon, 3.0
>horsepower. Don't know how I might connect it to the Makita finishing
>sander, but if possible it is a great idea and would save me the trouble
>of having to take my work outside all the time, which I do often. Maybe
>if an adaptor isn't available I can fashion one myself somehow.
>
>I have a simple single hole hole punch, that I suppose I could use to
>punch the sandpaper pieces, although I'd think there would be an effect
>of dulling the punch.
>
>I used to work on boats professionally (although I was mostly a grunt)
>around 20 years ago. I guess I sanded a few hulls and painted some with
>anti-fouling paint. Some of the nastier work I had to do on boats. Of
>course, that paint is toxic. I don't believe we used any kind of device
>to suck up the dust, but probably wore dust masks.
>
>Dan
>:
>:"Dan Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>:news:[email protected]...
>:> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:55:53 GMT, "Jack Kerouac" <[email protected]>
>:> wrote:
>:>
>:> :That's exactly why it there. Did you read the manual?
>:>
>:> I guess I did read the manual but I don't know if I have it anymore. I
>:> got it over 20 years ago. Do most people use those dust bags? My
>:> impression was that they were not extremely effective in controlling
>:> dust and the bag is very small.
>:>
>:

DM

Dan Musicant

in reply to Dan Musicant on 30/08/2003 7:01 PM

02/09/2003 7:08 PM

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 08:37:51 GMT, "Ron Magen" <[email protected]> wrote:

:Depending on the design, there may be an adapter to hook-up a 'shop vac'.
:
:The DeWalt has one, however my Ryobi doesn't; it uses a similar 'hole punch
:plated' . Although the 'coupling' design is similar, the dimensions don't
:match.
:
:Although it is a 'finishing' sander, not meant for heavy work, I did use it
:to sand the bottom of a 19 foot sailboat {while it was on it's trailer}. The
:anti-fouling paint dust had to be 'captured'.
:
:Regards & Good Luck,
:Ron Magen
:Backyard Boatshop

Thanks, Ron. I have a shopvac, a ShopVac QSP Pro 8.0 gallon, 3.0
horsepower. Don't know how I might connect it to the Makita finishing
sander, but if possible it is a great idea and would save me the trouble
of having to take my work outside all the time, which I do often. Maybe
if an adaptor isn't available I can fashion one myself somehow.

I have a simple single hole hole punch, that I suppose I could use to
punch the sandpaper pieces, although I'd think there would be an effect
of dulling the punch.

I used to work on boats professionally (although I was mostly a grunt)
around 20 years ago. I guess I sanded a few hulls and painted some with
anti-fouling paint. Some of the nastier work I had to do on boats. Of
course, that paint is toxic. I don't believe we used any kind of device
to suck up the dust, but probably wore dust masks.

Dan
:
:"Dan Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
:news:[email protected]...
:> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:55:53 GMT, "Jack Kerouac" <[email protected]>
:> wrote:
:>
:> :That's exactly why it there. Did you read the manual?
:>
:> I guess I did read the manual but I don't know if I have it anymore. I
:> got it over 20 years ago. Do most people use those dust bags? My
:> impression was that they were not extremely effective in controlling
:> dust and the bag is very small.
:>
:

RM

"Ron Magen"

in reply to Dan Musicant on 30/08/2003 7:01 PM

03/09/2003 1:33 PM

'Ramsey',

Not only will a 'single hole paper punch' wear out quickly, but it probably
won't work - not enough 'throat', hole too small, and only strong enough for
one or two pieces at a time.

What I meant was a HOLE punch, the one's you can get from Harbor Freight for
about $4 a set of 5. They look like short pieces of steel tubes {different
diameters} with one end 'sharpened'. Of course you can pay a lot more for a
'fancier' set, or individually. Or 'make-your-own' from a piece of
appropriate ID steel {or iron}pipe.

I also believe I said 'pre-punched' ones could be gotten from different
sources. The 'trick' is to get at least one 'factory-made' one to use as a
template. Then it's a simple matter to set up a jig to hold a short stack of
'un-punched' paper, then take your Ball Peen hammer and punch out the holes.

For ME, the grit usually wears off before the paper rips off, so I stick
with the 'lightweight' stuff. Note, this 'trick' is a simple expedient -
used if I need a specific grit size, or I am out of the 'pre-punched' paper.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You'll eat up a hole punch in a hurry. Use a disk with the pre-cut
> holes in it and mark where you want the new holes to be in your new
> piece of sandpaper. Take a punch (flat point) and place it over the
> hole and on a piece of pine or other soft wood. Use a hammer to hit
> the punch and it will leave the hole right where you want it. Vary the
> diameter of the hole by the size of the punch. This also works with
> sheet metal and leather. By the way, not to sure how long regular
> sandpaper will last.
>
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:08:00 GMT, Dan Musicant
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 08:37:51 GMT, "Ron Magen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >:Depending on the design, there may be an adapter to hook-up a 'shop
vac'.
> >:
> >:The DeWalt has one, however my Ryobi doesn't; it uses a similar 'hole
punch
> >:plated' .
SNIP

JK

"Jack Kerouac"

in reply to Dan Musicant on 30/08/2003 7:01 PM

31/08/2003 6:55 PM

That's exactly why it there. Did you read the manual?

--
We herd sheep, we drive cattle, we lead people. Lead me, follow me, or get
out of my way.
General Geo. S. Patton


"Dan Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've had this sander for years, model BO4550. It's OPM14000, 1.6 amp. I
> just noticed the plate that was supplied to punch two rows of holes, 3
> holes/row in the sandpaper. What's the point of doing that. I've never
> used it. Thanks for the clarification.
>
> Dan
>
> Followup. I guess it maybe is to aid sucking saw dust into the supplied
> dust bag. I don't generally use that. Is it really effective? It's
> pretty tiny.

DM

Dan Musicant

in reply to Dan Musicant on 30/08/2003 7:01 PM

01/09/2003 4:24 AM

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:55:53 GMT, "Jack Kerouac" <[email protected]>
wrote:

:That's exactly why it there. Did you read the manual?

I guess I did read the manual but I don't know if I have it anymore. I
got it over 20 years ago. Do most people use those dust bags? My
impression was that they were not extremely effective in controlling
dust and the bag is very small.

RM

"Ron Magen"

in reply to Dan Musicant on 30/08/2003 7:01 PM

01/09/2003 8:37 AM

Depending on the design, there may be an adapter to hook-up a 'shop vac'.

The DeWalt has one, however my Ryobi doesn't; it uses a similar 'hole punch
plated' . Although the 'coupling' design is similar, the dimensions don't
match.

Although it is a 'finishing' sander, not meant for heavy work, I did use it
to sand the bottom of a 19 foot sailboat {while it was on it's trailer}. The
anti-fouling paint dust had to be 'captured'.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Dan Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:55:53 GMT, "Jack Kerouac" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> :That's exactly why it there. Did you read the manual?
>
> I guess I did read the manual but I don't know if I have it anymore. I
> got it over 20 years ago. Do most people use those dust bags? My
> impression was that they were not extremely effective in controlling
> dust and the bag is very small.
>


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