On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:35:25 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I am never sure of why tools like this are made, especially at that price point.
It was in an article about what to buy dad for fathers day, like many
other tools that are sold as the bee's knees and must haves that dad
definitely needs.
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-4, Markem wrote:
>> Saw this in a fathers day article
>>
>> https://goo.gl/yxKmtJ
>>
>> For about $300.
>
>Is 1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI enough for decent usage?
>
>
You need to check the tools you use to see what they are rated as
needing.
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 8:49:19 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> >My only gripe with the Lowe's unit is that it is loud, as are all the oi=
less compressors. Not as loud as a couple of others I have owned, but stil=
l loud to me.
> >
=20
> That's what long hoses are for - - - - - -
Hah! No kidding. If I can, the compressor always winds up as far away as po=
ssible from me. Around that piercing, loud drone all day long is not only =
headache inducing, but annoying as hell.
I have had a few compressors that are haunted. My phone will ring, I answer=
it, and I am in the middle of my "thank you for calling my company" spiel =
or trying to find out where material is and the compressor's sensor recogni=
zes that, and starts the motor. =20
Or, I can be talking to one of the guys, get to a detailed part of the disc=
ussion, and once again the machine kicks in.
Uncanny...
Robert
On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:46:19 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:51:01 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:44:51 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-4, Markem wrote:
> >>>> Saw this in a fathers day article
> >>>>
> >>>> https://goo.gl/yxKmtJ
> >>>>
> >>>> For about $300.
> >>>
> >>>Is 1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI enough for decent usage?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>You need to check the tools you use to see what they are rated as
> >>needing.
> >
> >For nailers probably, any other air tool probably not.
>
> polisher 15 cfm @ 90psi
> orbital sander 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
> angle grinder 3 CFM @ 90 PSI small
> air saw for 16 gauge 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
> 18 gage nailer 0.5 CFM @ 90 PSI
> framing nailer 3 CFM @ 90 PSI
> 1/2" impact gun 6 CFM @ 90 PSI
>
> Just to give you some of the items.
>
> In order for specific air flow to be measured in SCFM, most experts
> agree that the air flow must meet the following set of rigid
> environmental circumstances;
>
> The air temperature must be 68 degrees Fahrenheit
> The relative humidity of the air must be 36%
> The air itself must be measured at sea level
>
> As far as I know basic cfm is what it says at the PSI it was rated as.
So that sort of takes us back to my original question. The DeWalt battery
compressor is rated in SCFM (1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI) as is my PC compressor
(2.6 SCFM @ 90 PSI)
Since the DW is rated at less than half my PC, where do you think the $300
1.2 SCFM unit would "fail" (i.e. not be up to the task at hand) but the
$99 PC would handle with ease?
Based on your list of items, are you saying that the only tool that *either*
compressor will operate is the 18 gauge nailer?
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:35:25 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I am never sure of why tools like this are made, especially at that price point. If you were working in an area that didn't have electricity, say framing a house in a new or remote location, that wouldn't be your tool. If you are doing a trim out job, a rapid succession of nails down a side of door trim with your 16 or 15ga. gun would deplete it. Worse on long runs of base, chair rail, crown, etc.
>
>And that compressor has pretty low specs as far as recovery would go. I have bought lowered powered compressors (lured by my aching back that is tired of hoisting them over the tailgate) in the past and have literally given them away. If I shoot a line of brads or trim mails quickly into trim those tiny tanks deplete so fast that I always seem to have the last few flush, then protruding from the trim. Countersinking trim gun nails (made to bend when they strike something hard)always makes a mess.
>
>So it seems useless to most professionals I know, and too expensive for the average homeowner to get any real use out of it. You can buy a nice hot dog for $100 that stow nicely, and has a lot of nailing power.
>
>I just bought this one about a month ago when it was on sale, and it has proven to be a nice little unit.
>
>https://goo.gl/YpMkQf
>
>The high pressure of the unit keeps the tank full, and it recovers nicely. I use it for siding installs, trim work, repairs, light framing, etc. With the battery in it, the DeWalt only weighs a few pounds less than this unit, and has nowhere near the utility value.
>
>My only gripe with the Lowe's unit is that it is loud, as are all the oiless compressors. Not as loud as a couple of others I have owned, but still loud to me.
>
>Robert
That's what long hoses are for - - - - - -
I am never sure of why tools like this are made, especially at that price p=
oint. If you were working in an area that didn't have electricity, say fra=
ming a house in a new or remote location, that wouldn't be your tool. If y=
ou are doing a trim out job, a rapid succession of nails down a side of doo=
r trim with your 16 or 15ga. gun would deplete it. Worse on long runs of b=
ase, chair rail, crown, etc.
And that compressor has pretty low specs as far as recovery would go. I ha=
ve bought lowered powered compressors (lured by my aching back that is tire=
d of hoisting them over the tailgate) in the past and have literally given =
them away. If I shoot a line of brads or trim mails quickly into trim thos=
e tiny tanks deplete so fast that I always seem to have the last few flush,=
then protruding from the trim. Countersinking trim gun nails (made to ben=
d when they strike something hard)always makes a mess.
So it seems useless to most professionals I know, and too expensive for the=
average homeowner to get any real use out of it. You can buy a nice hot d=
og for $100 that stow nicely, and has a lot of nailing power.
I just bought this one about a month ago when it was on sale, and it has pr=
oven to be a nice little unit.
https://goo.gl/YpMkQf
The high pressure of the unit keeps the tank full, and it recovers nicely. =
I use it for siding installs, trim work, repairs, light framing, etc. Wit=
h the battery in it, the DeWalt only weighs a few pounds less than this uni=
t, and has nowhere near the utility value.
My only gripe with the Lowe's unit is that it is loud, as are all the oiles=
s compressors. Not as loud as a couple of others I have owned, but still l=
oud to me.
Robert =20
On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:44:51 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-4, Markem wrote:
>>> Saw this in a fathers day article
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/yxKmtJ
>>>
>>> For about $300.
>>
>>Is 1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI enough for decent usage?
>>
>>
>You need to check the tools you use to see what they are rated as
>needing.
For nailers probably, any other air tool probably not.
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 22:39:49 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 6/12/18 5:35 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> I am never sure of why tools like this are made, especially at that
>> price point. If you were working in an area that didn't have
>> electricity, say framing a house in a new or remote location, that
>> wouldn't be your tool. If you are doing a trim out job, a rapid
>> succession of nails down a side of door trim with your 16 or 15ga.
>> gun would deplete it. Worse on long runs of base, chair rail, crown,
>> etc.
>>
>> And that compressor has pretty low specs as far as recovery would go.
>> I have bought lowered powered compressors (lured by my aching back
>> that is tired of hoisting them over the tailgate) in the past and
>> have literally given them away. If I shoot a line of brads or trim
>> mails quickly into trim those tiny tanks deplete so fast that I
>> always seem to have the last few flush, then protruding from the
>> trim. Countersinking trim gun nails (made to bend when they strike
>> something hard)always makes a mess.
>>
>> So it seems useless to most professionals I know, and too expensive
>> for the average homeowner to get any real use out of it. You can buy
>> a nice hot dog for $100 that stow nicely, and has a lot of nailing
>> power.
>>
>> I just bought this one about a month ago when it was on sale, and it
>> has proven to be a nice little unit.
>>
>> https://goo.gl/YpMkQf
>>
>> The high pressure of the unit keeps the tank full, and it recovers
>> nicely. I use it for siding installs, trim work, repairs, light
>> framing, etc. With the battery in it, the DeWalt only weighs a few
>> pounds less than this unit, and has nowhere near the utility value.
>>
>> My only gripe with the Lowe's unit is that it is loud, as are all the
>> oiless compressors. Not as loud as a couple of others I have owned,
>> but still loud to me.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>
>The battery operated framing nailers are coming along rather nicely.
>I have a Ridgid battery operated trim nailer and it's pretty cool. Not
>fast, but hella convenient.
>
>My buddy has the DeWalt battery framer and it sure beats lugging the
>hose around.
>Again, not quite as fast, but for anyone who'd be satisfied with the
>inefficiency of the battery compressor, the battery framer would rock
>their world.
>
>We framed up a set of stairs with platforms on a deck with it and it
>didn't really slow us down at all.
A heck of a lot faster (and easier) than the Armstrong - - - - -
Clare Snyder <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> That's what long hoses are for - - - - - -
>
Those things can get to weigh almost as much as the compressor!
Puckdropper
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On 6/13/2018 12:11 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 8:49:19 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
>
>>> My only gripe with the Lowe's unit is that it is loud, as are all the oiless compressors. Not as loud as a couple of others I have owned, but still loud to me.
>>>
>
>> That's what long hoses are for - - - - - -
>
> Hah! No kidding. If I can, the compressor always winds up as far away as possible from me. Around that piercing, loud drone all day long is not only headache inducing, but annoying as hell.
>
> I have had a few compressors that are haunted. My phone will ring, I answer it, and I am in the middle of my "thank you for calling my company" spiel or trying to find out where material is and the compressor's sensor recognizes that, and starts the motor.
>
> Or, I can be talking to one of the guys, get to a detailed part of the discussion, and once again the machine kicks in.
>
> Uncanny...
>
> Robert
>
Apparently the compressor is also sensing a depression/loss of pressure
in your lungs when you are talking. ;~)
OFWW <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> At home the pancake on similar to your will do about 7 framing nails
> and will not drive any more all the way home until it fills back up.
>
> Finishing nails and staples seem to go enough longer that I have to
> change positions anyhow and the compressor can catch up.
>
> If these pressure switches would have and adjustable differential I
> could tweak it so that I could drive a few more nail, but the
> differential is fixed and to buy a good one costs over half of a cheap
> compressor.
>
> It is a source of irritation to be but if you spend a grand on a good
> system you can't drag the sucker around. :)
>
> You might want to consider battery operated nailers, staplers, etc.
> they won't require the waiting cycles. Use the compressor to blow off
> the work bench and fill tires etc.
>
> If you go battery operated tool just be sure to get one compatible
> with the tools you already have.
If you need just a little more time between cycles, an air tank is pretty
cheap and with a regulator on it you can charge it to 120+ PSI and
regulate it down to what your gun needs.
They're also pretty useful for when you've got a tire away from the
compressor and need something portable. I use my tank for that kind of
thing more than I ever did for a reserve.
If you're just doing tires, there's battery powered inflators that use
standardish power tool batteries. They're probably like those little 12V
car pumps--good enough to turn the parenthesis squiggly line parenthesis
light off but not really good for filling a flat tire.
Puckdropper
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:11:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:46:19 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:51:01 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:44:51 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-4, Markem wrote:
>> >>>> Saw this in a fathers day article
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://goo.gl/yxKmtJ
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For about $300.
>> >>>
>> >>>Is 1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI enough for decent usage?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>You need to check the tools you use to see what they are rated as
>> >>needing.
>> >
>> >For nailers probably, any other air tool probably not.
>>
>> polisher 15 cfm @ 90psi
>> orbital sander 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> angle grinder 3 CFM @ 90 PSI small
>> air saw for 16 gauge 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> 18 gage nailer 0.5 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> framing nailer 3 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> 1/2" impact gun 6 CFM @ 90 PSI
>>
>> Just to give you some of the items.
>>
>> In order for specific air flow to be measured in SCFM, most experts
>> agree that the air flow must meet the following set of rigid
>> environmental circumstances;
>>
>> The air temperature must be 68 degrees Fahrenheit
>> The relative humidity of the air must be 36%
>> The air itself must be measured at sea level
>>
>> As far as I know basic cfm is what it says at the PSI it was rated as.
>
>So that sort of takes us back to my original question. The DeWalt battery
>compressor is rated in SCFM (1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI) as is my PC compressor
>(2.6 SCFM @ 90 PSI)
>
>Since the DW is rated at less than half my PC, where do you think the $300
>1.2 SCFM unit would "fail" (i.e. not be up to the task at hand) but the
>$99 PC would handle with ease?
>
>Based on your list of items, are you saying that the only tool that *either*
>compressor will operate is the 18 gauge nailer?
At home the pancake on similar to your will do about 7 framing nails
and will not drive any more all the way home until it fills back up.
Finishing nails and staples seem to go enough longer that I have to
change positions anyhow and the compressor can catch up.
If these pressure switches would have and adjustable differential I
could tweak it so that I could drive a few more nail, but the
differential is fixed and to buy a good one costs over half of a cheap
compressor.
It is a source of irritation to be but if you spend a grand on a good
system you can't drag the sucker around. :)
You might want to consider battery operated nailers, staplers, etc.
they won't require the waiting cycles. Use the compressor to blow off
the work bench and fill tires etc.
If you go battery operated tool just be sure to get one compatible
with the tools you already have.
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:11:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:46:19 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:51:01 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:44:51 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-4, Markem wrote:
>> >>>> Saw this in a fathers day article
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://goo.gl/yxKmtJ
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For about $300.
>> >>>
>> >>>Is 1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI enough for decent usage?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>You need to check the tools you use to see what they are rated as
>> >>needing.
>> >
>> >For nailers probably, any other air tool probably not.
>>
>> polisher 15 cfm @ 90psi
>> orbital sander 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> angle grinder 3 CFM @ 90 PSI small
>> air saw for 16 gauge 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> 18 gage nailer 0.5 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> framing nailer 3 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> 1/2" impact gun 6 CFM @ 90 PSI
>>
>> Just to give you some of the items.
>>
>> In order for specific air flow to be measured in SCFM, most experts
>> agree that the air flow must meet the following set of rigid
>> environmental circumstances;
>>
>> The air temperature must be 68 degrees Fahrenheit
>> The relative humidity of the air must be 36%
>> The air itself must be measured at sea level
>>
>> As far as I know basic cfm is what it says at the PSI it was rated as.
>
>So that sort of takes us back to my original question. The DeWalt battery
>compressor is rated in SCFM (1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI) as is my PC compressor
>(2.6 SCFM @ 90 PSI)
>
>Since the DW is rated at less than half my PC, where do you think the $300
>1.2 SCFM unit would "fail" (i.e. not be up to the task at hand) but the
>$99 PC would handle with ease?
>
>Based on your list of items, are you saying that the only tool that *either*
>compressor will operate is the 18 gauge nailer?
It REALLY depends on the size of the tank and how much you use it
(duty cycle). Either one will likely remove one wheel nut, the $99 one
might remove or install one wheel - and be ready for the second one by
the time you check torque, let down the jack, and jack up the next
wheel with a CP type impact - not likely with an IR style (more of an
air hog). The $99 one may handle a small tough-up paint gun - the
battery one almost definitely will not.
The air saw might cut a one foot cut on the $99 - and about 5 inches
or so at a go with the battery powered one.
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:35:25 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I am never sure of why tools like this are made, especially at that price point. If you were working in an area that didn't have electricity, say framing a house in a new or remote location, that wouldn't be your tool. If you are doing a trim out job, a rapid succession of nails down a side of door trim with your 16 or 15ga. gun would deplete it. Worse on long runs of base, chair rail, crown, etc.
>
>And that compressor has pretty low specs as far as recovery would go. I have bought lowered powered compressors (lured by my aching back that is tired of hoisting them over the tailgate) in the past and have literally given them away. If I shoot a line of brads or trim mails quickly into trim those tiny tanks deplete so fast that I always seem to have the last few flush, then protruding from the trim. Countersinking trim gun nails (made to bend when they strike something hard)always makes a mess.
>
>So it seems useless to most professionals I know, and too expensive for the average homeowner to get any real use out of it. You can buy a nice hot dog for $100 that stow nicely, and has a lot of nailing power.
>
>I just bought this one about a month ago when it was on sale, and it has proven to be a nice little unit.
>
>https://goo.gl/YpMkQf
>
>The high pressure of the unit keeps the tank full, and it recovers nicely. I use it for siding installs, trim work, repairs, light framing, etc. With the battery in it, the DeWalt only weighs a few pounds less than this unit, and has nowhere near the utility value.
>
>My only gripe with the Lowe's unit is that it is loud, as are all the oiless compressors. Not as loud as a couple of others I have owned, but still loud to me.
>
>Robert
That one is rated 2.8 dCFM which great for that size of compressor. It
should run off a bunch of finishing nails plus some of the other stuff
like you suggested.
I am literally ROTFLOL!
I jumped to HF they have an 8 gal rated at 4scfm @ 90 PSI. About the
same price but you lose so much in portability.
I saw a 3 Cu Ft one there for 57 or so bucks, checked the chart sheet
for capability. .5SCFM @90 1 SCFM at 40 psi. Now here is the part that
had me laughing.
The had a picture sheet of capabilities. The row on the bottom 2/3rds
showed framing nailers, impact guns, cutting tools, etc in big
pictures, and a small section said clearly not for use with these
items.
Pity the impulse buyer whose eyes are larger than his brain.
On 6/12/18 5:35 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I am never sure of why tools like this are made, especially at that
> price point. If you were working in an area that didn't have
> electricity, say framing a house in a new or remote location, that
> wouldn't be your tool. If you are doing a trim out job, a rapid
> succession of nails down a side of door trim with your 16 or 15ga.
> gun would deplete it. Worse on long runs of base, chair rail, crown,
> etc.
>
> And that compressor has pretty low specs as far as recovery would go.
> I have bought lowered powered compressors (lured by my aching back
> that is tired of hoisting them over the tailgate) in the past and
> have literally given them away. If I shoot a line of brads or trim
> mails quickly into trim those tiny tanks deplete so fast that I
> always seem to have the last few flush, then protruding from the
> trim. Countersinking trim gun nails (made to bend when they strike
> something hard)always makes a mess.
>
> So it seems useless to most professionals I know, and too expensive
> for the average homeowner to get any real use out of it. You can buy
> a nice hot dog for $100 that stow nicely, and has a lot of nailing
> power.
>
> I just bought this one about a month ago when it was on sale, and it
> has proven to be a nice little unit.
>
> https://goo.gl/YpMkQf
>
> The high pressure of the unit keeps the tank full, and it recovers
> nicely. I use it for siding installs, trim work, repairs, light
> framing, etc. With the battery in it, the DeWalt only weighs a few
> pounds less than this unit, and has nowhere near the utility value.
>
> My only gripe with the Lowe's unit is that it is loud, as are all the
> oiless compressors. Not as loud as a couple of others I have owned,
> but still loud to me.
>
> Robert
>
The battery operated framing nailers are coming along rather nicely.
I have a Ridgid battery operated trim nailer and it's pretty cool. Not
fast, but hella convenient.
My buddy has the DeWalt battery framer and it sure beats lugging the
hose around.
Again, not quite as fast, but for anyone who'd be satisfied with the
inefficiency of the battery compressor, the battery framer would rock
their world.
We framed up a set of stairs with platforms on a deck with it and it
didn't really slow us down at all.
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On 6/13/18 12:11 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 8:49:19 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
>
>>> My only gripe with the Lowe's unit is that it is loud, as are all
>>> the oiless compressors. Not as loud as a couple of others I have
>>> owned, but still loud to me.
>>>
>
>> That's what long hoses are for - - - - - -
>
> Hah! No kidding. If I can, the compressor always winds up as far away
> as possible from me. Around that piercing, loud drone all day long
> is not only headache inducing, but annoying as hell.
>
> I have had a few compressors that are haunted. My phone will ring, I
> answer it, and I am in the middle of my "thank you for calling my
> company" spiel or trying to find out where material is and the
> compressor's sensor recognizes that, and starts the motor.
>
> Or, I can be talking to one of the guys, get to a detailed part of
> the discussion, and once again the machine kicks in.
>
> Uncanny...
>
> Robert
>
I did a deck rehab job with a friend who's air hoses all had leaks.
Pretty simple fixes but he never fixed them. The guns would shoot about
3 trim nails before the compressor kicked back on. In fact, it would
still kick on about every minute even if you weren't using any guns on
it. It was about as annoying as it gets.
Add to that the fact that the client was one of these guys who had to
ask questions about what we were doing, every little step of the way.
"Why are you doing it that way?" "Why wouldn't you just do it like...?"
"Are you sure that's going to be strong enough?"
Every time he'd come out to ask questions, that stupid compressor would
kick on right as I was starting the answer.
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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
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On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:51:01 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:44:51 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-4, Markem wrote:
>>>> Saw this in a fathers day article
>>>>
>>>> https://goo.gl/yxKmtJ
>>>>
>>>> For about $300.
>>>
>>>Is 1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI enough for decent usage?
>>>
>>>
>>You need to check the tools you use to see what they are rated as
>>needing.
>
>For nailers probably, any other air tool probably not.
polisher 15 cfm @ 90psi
orbital sander 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
angle grinder 3 CFM @ 90 PSI small
air saw for 16 gauge 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
18 gage nailer 0.5 CFM @ 90 PSI
framing nailer 3 CFM @ 90 PSI
1/2" impact gun 6 CFM @ 90 PSI
Just to give you some of the items.
In order for specific air flow to be measured in SCFM, most experts
agree that the air flow must meet the following set of rigid
environmental circumstances;
The air temperature must be 68 degrees Fahrenheit
The relative humidity of the air must be 36%
The air itself must be measured at sea level
As far as I know basic cfm is what it says at the PSI it was rated as.
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 22:22:09 GMT, Puckdropper <[email protected]>
wrote:
>OFWW <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> At home the pancake on similar to your will do about 7 framing nails
>> and will not drive any more all the way home until it fills back up.
>>
>> Finishing nails and staples seem to go enough longer that I have to
>> change positions anyhow and the compressor can catch up.
>>
>> If these pressure switches would have and adjustable differential I
>> could tweak it so that I could drive a few more nail, but the
>> differential is fixed and to buy a good one costs over half of a cheap
>> compressor.
>>
>> It is a source of irritation to be but if you spend a grand on a good
>> system you can't drag the sucker around. :)
>>
>> You might want to consider battery operated nailers, staplers, etc.
>> they won't require the waiting cycles. Use the compressor to blow off
>> the work bench and fill tires etc.
>>
>> If you go battery operated tool just be sure to get one compatible
>> with the tools you already have.
>
>If you need just a little more time between cycles, an air tank is pretty
>cheap and with a regulator on it you can charge it to 120+ PSI and
>regulate it down to what your gun needs.
>
>They're also pretty useful for when you've got a tire away from the
>compressor and need something portable. I use my tank for that kind of
>thing more than I ever did for a reserve.
>
>If you're just doing tires, there's battery powered inflators that use
>standardish power tool batteries. They're probably like those little 12V
>car pumps--good enough to turn the parenthesis squiggly line parenthesis
>light off but not really good for filling a flat tire.
>
>Puckdropper
I generally try what you suggest, but when set too high the high
pressure switch is borderline tripping. It also does not increase the
air volume much because of the sizing of the pressure regulator (rated
in cfm volume) if you leave it in line.
I prefer a differential of 20to 25 psi and these switches seem to be
close to 40 making it difficult for the compressor to keep a more
consistent flow.
Yeah as to filling a totally flat tire, takes forever. Not too bad on
bikes.
On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:51:01 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:44:51 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-4, Markem wrote:
>>>> Saw this in a fathers day article
>>>>
>>>> https://goo.gl/yxKmtJ
>>>>
>>>> For about $300.
>>>
>>>Is 1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI enough for decent usage?
>>>
>>>
>>You need to check the tools you use to see what they are rated as
>>needing.
>
>For nailers probably, any other air tool probably not.
It'll handle an airbrush - mabee a touch-up gun. Won't keep up with a
big paint gun.
The tank is big enough it might get afew wheels off with the impact.
On 6/10/2018 6:11 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:46:19 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:51:01 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:44:51 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-4, Markem wrote:
>>>>>> Saw this in a fathers day article
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://goo.gl/yxKmtJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For about $300.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is 1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI enough for decent usage?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You need to check the tools you use to see what they are rated as
>>>> needing.
>>>
>>> For nailers probably, any other air tool probably not.
>>
>> polisher 15 cfm @ 90psi
>> orbital sander 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> angle grinder 3 CFM @ 90 PSI small
>> air saw for 16 gauge 4 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> 18 gage nailer 0.5 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> framing nailer 3 CFM @ 90 PSI
>> 1/2" impact gun 6 CFM @ 90 PSI
>>
>> Just to give you some of the items.
>>
>> In order for specific air flow to be measured in SCFM, most experts
>> agree that the air flow must meet the following set of rigid
>> environmental circumstances;
>>
>> The air temperature must be 68 degrees Fahrenheit
>> The relative humidity of the air must be 36%
>> The air itself must be measured at sea level
>>
>> As far as I know basic cfm is what it says at the PSI it was rated as.
>
> So that sort of takes us back to my original question. The DeWalt battery
> compressor is rated in SCFM (1.2 SCFM @ 90 PSI) as is my PC compressor
> (2.6 SCFM @ 90 PSI)
>
> Since the DW is rated at less than half my PC, where do you think the $300
> 1.2 SCFM unit would "fail" (i.e. not be up to the task at hand) but the
> $99 PC would handle with ease?
I should not fail, it will just have to cycle on twice as much.
>
> Based on your list of items, are you saying that the only tool that *either*
> compressor will operate is the 18 gauge nailer?
>
It depend on how much you need to use it. A nailer uses very little air
is very short blasts. Air tools that use continuous air will drain it
much more quickly, more than likely faster than it can recharge.