In my efforts to nudge solar technology in the general direction of
energy independence in individual and small community contexts, I seem
to be developing some unsought adversarial relationships...
...the latest is a German systems firm, whose behavior I was having real
difficulty understanding - until I finally took a look at their
client/partner list.
Even though most of the names weren't familiar, there was a fairly
obvious pattern, and I thought immediately of you and the comments
you've made here.
The list is too interesting to not share:
http://www.tetralog.de/referenzen.html
I suppose it's always good to know who one's friends aren't. :)
--
Morris Dovey
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On 5/21/2010 7:27 PM, Han wrote:
> Morris Dovey<[email protected]> wrote in
<snip>
>> The list is too interesting to not share:
>>
>> http://www.tetralog.de/referenzen.html
>>
>> I suppose it's always good to know who one's friends aren't. :)
>
> Morris, I don't see any connection, since I don't know what problems
> these Germans are giving you ...
Han, there is a 3 1/2 hour video on the history of world banking and
monetary systems, in two parts, available in many places on the
interweb, "The Money Masters" ... take the time some rainy day to absorb
it in its entirety.
You won't be able to do a damn thing about it, but at least you will
recognize the ongoing, diversionary, political circuses, put on solely
to keep you occupied, for what they are.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 2010-05-21 09:51:28 -0400, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> said:
> I suppose it's always good to know who one's friends aren't. :)
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tetralog.de%2Freferenzen.html&sl=auto&tl=en
Never
good to piss off the bankers, I'm guessing. How did you do it?
On 2010-05-22 00:24:00 -0400, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> said:
> By developing and publicizing simple, inexpensive technologies that
> shrink/eliminate some of the historically profitable markets for their
> services.
Well, good on you! And I mean it.
On 5/21/2010 8:51 AM, Morris Dovey wrote:
>
> In my efforts to nudge solar technology in the general direction of
> energy independence in individual and small community contexts, I seem
> to be developing some unsought adversarial relationships...
>
> ...the latest is a German systems firm, whose behavior I was having real
> difficulty understanding - until I finally took a look at their
> client/partner list.
>
> Even though most of the names weren't familiar, there was a fairly
> obvious pattern, and I thought immediately of you and the comments
> you've made here.
>
> The list is too interesting to not share:
>
> http://www.tetralog.de/referenzen.html
>
> I suppose it's always good to know who one's friends aren't. :)
Sorry to hear that, but nothing in this regard surprises me ...
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> In my efforts to nudge solar technology in the general direction of
> energy independence in individual and small community contexts, I seem
> to be developing some unsought adversarial relationships...
>
> ...the latest is a German systems firm, whose behavior I was having
> real difficulty understanding - until I finally took a look at their
> client/partner list.
>
> Even though most of the names weren't familiar, there was a fairly
> obvious pattern, and I thought immediately of you and the comments
> you've made here.
>
> The list is too interesting to not share:
>
> http://www.tetralog.de/referenzen.html
>
> I suppose it's always good to know who one's friends aren't. :)
Morris, I don't see any connection, since I don't know what problems
these Germans are giving you ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote in news:ht7tna$gas$1
@speranza.aioe.org:
> On 5/21/2010 7:27 PM, Han wrote:
>
>> Morris, I don't see any connection, since I don't know what problems
>> these Germans are giving you ...
>
> I'll answer your question with a question: If you perceived a need to
> destroy a web site offering unique content, how might you accomplish
> that without actually attacking the hosting server(s)?
>
> Please do _not_ post your answer.
I am not answering your question, Morris, but is this really you?
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Han <[email protected]> wrote in news:Xns9D80A11663EB2ikkezelf@
207.246.207.167:
> Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote in news:ht7tna$gas$1
> @speranza.aioe.org:
>
>> On 5/21/2010 7:27 PM, Han wrote:
>>
>>> Morris, I don't see any connection, since I don't know what problems
>>> these Germans are giving you ...
>>
>> I'll answer your question with a question: If you perceived a need to
>> destroy a web site offering unique content, how might you accomplish
>> that without actually attacking the hosting server(s)?
>>
>> Please do _not_ post your answer.
>
> I am not answering your question, Morris, but is this really you?
I am an admirer of your novel technologies, Morris, but also remember an
internet aphorism: Never attribute to malice that which can be explained
by stupidity, and I don't mean you.
What happened? Some links from google are 404'ing.
As far as world control by bankers, apply the aphorism to bankers and
politicians. And greedy Madoffs.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snipped>
Sorry to hear of the highjacking. I always thought your pages wonderful,
and was hoping that retirement would afford me time to study them more.
One page that always intrugued me was your 3-legged saw horse. No time yet
to make one, and now I see the page has gone. So sorry.
If I may, I'll ask for access to your pages for my personal non-commercial
use, but it'll have to wait until the late fall after I retire (economy
willing).
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On May 22, 12:24=A0am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 5/21/2010 9:24 PM, Steve wrote:
>
> > On 2010-05-21 09:51:28 -0400, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> said:
>
> >> I suppose it's always good to know who one's friends aren't. :)
> > Never good to piss off the bankers, I'm guessing. How did you do it?
>
> By developing and publicizing simple, inexpensive technologies that
> shrink/eliminate some of the historically profitable markets for their
> services.
>
> --
> Morris Doveyhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Be careful when talking about The Bankers...Daneliuk gets all frothy
when one talks about 'Bankers'.
What did Microsoft do to you now?
"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 5/21/2010 7:27 PM, Han wrote:
I'll answer your question with a question: If you perceived a need to
destroy a web site offering unique content, how might you accomplish
that without actually attacking the hosting server(s)?
Please do _not_ post your answer.
--
Morris Dovey
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On 5/21/2010 9:24 PM, Steve wrote:
> On 2010-05-21 09:51:28 -0400, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> said:
>
>> I suppose it's always good to know who one's friends aren't. :)
> Never good to piss off the bankers, I'm guessing. How did you do it?
By developing and publicizing simple, inexpensive technologies that
shrink/eliminate some of the historically profitable markets for their
services.
--
Morris Dovey
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On 5/21/2010 7:27 PM, Han wrote:
> Morris, I don't see any connection, since I don't know what problems
> these Germans are giving you ...
I'll answer your question with a question: If you perceived a need to
destroy a web site offering unique content, how might you accomplish
that without actually attacking the hosting server(s)?
Please do _not_ post your answer.
--
Morris Dovey
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On 5/22/2010 3:04 PM, Han wrote:
>> I am not answering your question, Morris, but is this really you?
It is, although sometimes I'm not really myself. :o)
> I am an admirer of your novel technologies, Morris, but also remember an
> internet aphorism: Never attribute to malice that which can be explained
> by stupidity, and I don't mean you.
Yeah, I tried to attribute what I was seeing to stupidity - but that
disease didn't fit the symptoms I observed.
> What happened?
What happened was that more of my (copyrighted) content was being
downloaded from web sites other than mine, so much so that my web site
traffic dropped by 80% over the course of a month, while pirate traffic
soared. Case in point:
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/Tetralog.txt (expires 24 May 2010)
However, I found equally informative what did _not_ show up in the log.
> Some links from google are 404'ing.
Understandably so. I had tried to provide some unique content. When that
content became non-unique, it no longer served my purposes. I did some
minor restructuring of what I wanted to keep and got rid of a lot of the
rest. Most of the woodworking stuff was moved to an archive, some of the
not-so-great fluidyne pages went into another archive, and new fluidyne
developments will go into pages in a private area for access only by
folks who're actually working in the project.
More than 999 out of every 1000 people who looked at the solar heating
panel web pages weren't interested in the dealer or price pages. Since I
now consider solar heating panels a well-solved problem, I'm keeping one
page and archiving the rest.
Google will get their links all sorted out eventually.
--
Morris Dovey
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/