Rv

"Russ"

09/09/2004 4:00 PM

Craftsman 113.19771 radial arm saw question

Rebuilding an old saw that was given to me. Can someone provide me with
sizes (LxWxH) for these pieces:

Rear table (PN: 63675)
Spacer board (PN: 63429)
Rip fence (PN: 63432)
Front table (PN: 63674)

Thanks!


This topic has 14 replies

me

"mnterpfan"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 8:54 PM

Russ,
I have the exact same saw. I ordered my recall kit online. The website
worked great for me and the kit arrived pretty quickly. It was nice to get
a whole new table, which I wasn't expecting. I had planned on buying my own
lumber and building a new one anyway. I probably still will build a
sacrificial surface.

The ripscale is affected. The reason for the new table top is that the new
guard takes more space when returned to the home position. I plan to create
my own offset indicator so that the scale will work properly.

As this type of saw is new to you, (me too), you might be interested in
reading books about them. I highly recommend the "Radial Arm Saw Techniques"
by Roger W. Cliffe. I also purchased "Magic of Your Radial Arm Saw" by De
Christo, but don't really think it is worthwhile. Both of these books are
out of print but can be obtained through Amazon Marketplace.

As John points out below, the Mr Sawdust book is highly recommended too. I
plan to purchase that one soon. The Dewalt users group Radial Arm Saw Forum
use it as their bible, it seems.

Good luck with the saw.

Eric

PS. One week after getting my Craftsman, I found a Delta/Rockwell 14" for
$50 at a garage sale. I couldn't pass on it. It has a 3phase motor, but
thats not that big of a deal.

"Russ" <[email protected]> wrote >
> This is a new type of saw for me as I'm relatively new to woodworking.
> Will
> the re-sized table from the recall affect the measurements on the rip
> scale?
> Also, do you ever actually use the scales on the saw, or do you still
> prefer
> to measure & mark by hand and then visually line up the saw? I'm leaning
> towards the manual method, myself.
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> If you don't have the Jon Eakes book on tuning radial saws
>>
> <http://www.wired-2-shop.com/joneakes/ProductDetail.asp?ProdID=3&nPrdImageID
> =&CatID=3>,
>> it's worth the price, and if you don't have the Mr. Sawdust book
>> <http://www.mrsawdust.com/index.php> you should get that as well.
>>
>> The original table was 1" particle board, the new one is 1" MDF. The MDF
> is
>> much more satisfactory. Mr. Sawdust tells how to make an improved
>> table--you might want to read that before you start.

Rv

"Russ"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 6:28 PM

Thanks for the reply!

"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Russ wrote:
>
> > Rebuilding an old saw that was given to me. Can someone provide me with
> > sizes (LxWxH) for these pieces:
>
> All tables are 40 in long and 3/4 in thick.
> >
> > Rear table (PN: 63675) 5 in
> > Spacer board (PN: 63429) 2 in
> > Rip fence (PN: 63432) 3/4 thick and 1.5 to 2 in high
> > Front table (PN: 63674) 13.5 in
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> My RAS is a mid 60s vintage 113.29410. Happy sawing.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

LG

"Lee Gordon"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 5:45 PM

My mileage varied from yours. Rather than order on the web, I called the
toll-free number on the website, spoke to a nice woman who told me the stuff
would arrive in two separate boxes in about a week's time. It arrived in
just 3 days. No problems whatsoever.

Lee

--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"

jj

jo4hn

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 5:28 PM

Russ wrote:

> Rebuilding an old saw that was given to me. Can someone provide me with
> sizes (LxWxH) for these pieces:

All tables are 40 in long and 3/4 in thick.
>
> Rear table (PN: 63675) 5 in
> Spacer board (PN: 63429) 2 in
> Rip fence (PN: 63432) 3/4 thick and 1.5 to 2 in high
> Front table (PN: 63674) 13.5 in
>
> Thanks!
>
My RAS is a mid 60s vintage 113.29410. Happy sawing.
mahalo,
jo4hn

JB

"Jim Bailey"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 7:17 PM

YMMV on this but - I had to call them, 3 times, 2 weeks between, each, to
actually get this. Thay kept telling me they didn't have the order. And of
couorse, trusting soul I am, I never wrote down any confirmation or person's
name. Anyway - can't hurt to follow up on it - only cost is a phone call.

jim bailey

"Jack Casuso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks, hadn't heard about the recall. Checked my model number, and
called
> them. Absolutely no hassle, sending everything right out.
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Russ wrote:
> >
> > > Rebuilding an old saw that was given to me. Can someone provide me
with
> > > sizes (LxWxH) for these pieces:
> > >
> > > Rear table (PN: 63675)
> > > Spacer board (PN: 63429)
> > > Rip fence (PN: 63432)
> > > Front table (PN: 63674)
> >
> > You might want to go over to
> <http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/index2.htm>
> > and plug in your model and serial numbers. The number you gave is one
for
> > which there is an upgrade kit available--that includes a new guard that
is
> > a significant improvement over the old one and a new table. No rip
fence
> > though. The recall is free, so you can't beat the price.
> >
> > Unless you're trying to rebuild it to museum quality just take any
sturdy
> > board for the fence--the fence on a radial saw is disposable. I usually
> > use a 1x2 or 1x3 or scrap of MDF, but sometimes use a heavier one if I
> need
> > to attach hold-downs or some other kind of fixturing to it.
> >
> > The dimensions of the new table are different from the original. I put
a
> > new table copied from the original on mine (I have the same model)
before
> I
> > became aware of the recall. The dimensions are 40 inches wide, with the
> > rear table, spacer board, and front table 2, 8-3/4, and 19 inches deep
> give
> > or take a fraction. If you need it to the nearest 16th I think I still
> > have the original on the scrap pile somewhere, but it will likely take
> some
> > digging to find all three pieces.
> >
> > If you don't have the Jon Eakes book on tuning radial saws
> >
>
<http://www.wired-2-shop.com/joneakes/ProductDetail.asp?ProdID=3&nPrdImageID
> =&CatID=3>,
> > it's worth the price, and if you don't have the Mr. Sawdust book
> > <http://www.mrsawdust.com/index.php> you should get that as well.
> >
> > The original table was 1" particle board, the new one is 1" MDF. The
MDF
> is
> > much more satisfactory. Mr. Sawdust tells how to make an improved
> > table--you might want to read that before you start.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > --John
> > Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
> > (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
>

LG

"Lee Gordon"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

10/09/2004 2:39 AM

LRod ...

<<Did you have to give them a serial number?>>

I can't recall for certain but I believe I did. I assume they maintain a
database so that people don't keep sending in for free tabletops after
chewing up the first set.

Lee

--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 1:03 PM

Russ wrote:

> Rebuilding an old saw that was given to me. Can someone provide me with
> sizes (LxWxH) for these pieces:
>
> Rear table (PN: 63675)
> Spacer board (PN: 63429)
> Rip fence (PN: 63432)
> Front table (PN: 63674)

You might want to go over to <http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/index2.htm>
and plug in your model and serial numbers. The number you gave is one for
which there is an upgrade kit available--that includes a new guard that is
a significant improvement over the old one and a new table. No rip fence
though. The recall is free, so you can't beat the price.

Unless you're trying to rebuild it to museum quality just take any sturdy
board for the fence--the fence on a radial saw is disposable. I usually
use a 1x2 or 1x3 or scrap of MDF, but sometimes use a heavier one if I need
to attach hold-downs or some other kind of fixturing to it.

The dimensions of the new table are different from the original. I put a
new table copied from the original on mine (I have the same model) before I
became aware of the recall. The dimensions are 40 inches wide, with the
rear table, spacer board, and front table 2, 8-3/4, and 19 inches deep give
or take a fraction. If you need it to the nearest 16th I think I still
have the original on the scrap pile somewhere, but it will likely take some
digging to find all three pieces.

If you don't have the Jon Eakes book on tuning radial saws
<http://www.wired-2-shop.com/joneakes/ProductDetail.asp?ProdID=3&nPrdImageID=&CatID=3>,
it's worth the price, and if you don't have the Mr. Sawdust book
<http://www.mrsawdust.com/index.php> you should get that as well.

The original table was 1" particle board, the new one is 1" MDF. The MDF is
much more satisfactory. Mr. Sawdust tells how to make an improved
table--you might want to read that before you start.



> Thanks!

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 4:07 PM

Jim Bailey wrote:

> YMMV on this but - I had to call them, 3 times, 2 weeks between, each, to
> actually get this. Thay kept telling me they didn't have the order. And
> of couorse, trusting soul I am, I never wrote down any confirmation or
> person's name. Anyway - can't hurt to follow up on it - only cost is a
> phone call.

FWIW, I placed the order online using a nonstandard browser, the page
crashed in the middle of the order, I said "to Hell with it" and was quite
surprised a while later to find a big unexpected box on the doorstep.

> jim bailey
>
> "Jack Casuso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Thanks, hadn't heard about the recall. Checked my model number, and
> called
>> them. Absolutely no hassle, sending everything right out.
>>
>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Russ wrote:
>> >
>> > > Rebuilding an old saw that was given to me. Can someone provide me
> with
>> > > sizes (LxWxH) for these pieces:
>> > >
>> > > Rear table (PN: 63675)
>> > > Spacer board (PN: 63429)
>> > > Rip fence (PN: 63432)
>> > > Front table (PN: 63674)
>> >
>> > You might want to go over to
>> <http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/index2.htm>
>> > and plug in your model and serial numbers. The number you gave is one
> for
>> > which there is an upgrade kit available--that includes a new guard that
> is
>> > a significant improvement over the old one and a new table. No rip
> fence
>> > though. The recall is free, so you can't beat the price.
>> >
>> > Unless you're trying to rebuild it to museum quality just take any
> sturdy
>> > board for the fence--the fence on a radial saw is disposable. I
>> > usually use a 1x2 or 1x3 or scrap of MDF, but sometimes use a heavier
>> > one if I
>> need
>> > to attach hold-downs or some other kind of fixturing to it.
>> >
>> > The dimensions of the new table are different from the original. I put
> a
>> > new table copied from the original on mine (I have the same model)
> before
>> I
>> > became aware of the recall. The dimensions are 40 inches wide, with
>> > the rear table, spacer board, and front table 2, 8-3/4, and 19 inches
>> > deep
>> give
>> > or take a fraction. If you need it to the nearest 16th I think I still
>> > have the original on the scrap pile somewhere, but it will likely take
>> some
>> > digging to find all three pieces.
>> >
>> > If you don't have the Jon Eakes book on tuning radial saws
>> >
>>
>
<http://www.wired-2-shop.com/joneakes/ProductDetail.asp?ProdID=3&nPrdImageID
>> =&CatID=3>,
>> > it's worth the price, and if you don't have the Mr. Sawdust book
>> > <http://www.mrsawdust.com/index.php> you should get that as well.
>> >
>> > The original table was 1" particle board, the new one is 1" MDF. The
> MDF
>> is
>> > much more satisfactory. Mr. Sawdust tells how to make an improved
>> > table--you might want to read that before you start.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Thanks!
>> >
>> > --
>> > --John
>> > Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>> > (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>>
>>

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 4:08 PM

Russ wrote:

> Thanks for the detailed info, John. The part about the recall rocks!
> I'll
> definitely be calling them later today. Free saw + free upgrade kit.
> Can't beat that.
>
> This is a new type of saw for me as I'm relatively new to woodworking.
> Will the re-sized table from the recall affect the measurements on the rip
> scale?

Yes.

> Also, do you ever actually use the scales on the saw, or do you
> still prefer
> to measure & mark by hand and then visually line up the saw? I'm leaning
> towards the manual method, myself.

I don't think I've ever used the scales.

> Thanks again.
>
> Russ
>
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Russ wrote:
>>
>> > Rebuilding an old saw that was given to me. Can someone provide me
>> > with sizes (LxWxH) for these pieces:
>> >
>> > Rear table (PN: 63675)
>> > Spacer board (PN: 63429)
>> > Rip fence (PN: 63432)
>> > Front table (PN: 63674)
>>
>> You might want to go over to
> <http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/index2.htm>
>> and plug in your model and serial numbers. The number you gave is one
>> for which there is an upgrade kit available--that includes a new guard
>> that is
>> a significant improvement over the old one and a new table. No rip fence
>> though. The recall is free, so you can't beat the price.
>>
>> Unless you're trying to rebuild it to museum quality just take any sturdy
>> board for the fence--the fence on a radial saw is disposable. I usually
>> use a 1x2 or 1x3 or scrap of MDF, but sometimes use a heavier one if I
> need
>> to attach hold-downs or some other kind of fixturing to it.
>>
>> The dimensions of the new table are different from the original. I put a
>> new table copied from the original on mine (I have the same model) before
> I
>> became aware of the recall. The dimensions are 40 inches wide, with the
>> rear table, spacer board, and front table 2, 8-3/4, and 19 inches deep
> give
>> or take a fraction. If you need it to the nearest 16th I think I still
>> have the original on the scrap pile somewhere, but it will likely take
> some
>> digging to find all three pieces.
>>
>> If you don't have the Jon Eakes book on tuning radial saws
>>
>
<http://www.wired-2-shop.com/joneakes/ProductDetail.asp?ProdID=3&nPrdImageID
> =&CatID=3>,
>> it's worth the price, and if you don't have the Mr. Sawdust book
>> <http://www.mrsawdust.com/index.php> you should get that as well.
>>
>> The original table was 1" particle board, the new one is 1" MDF. The MDF
> is
>> much more satisfactory. Mr. Sawdust tells how to make an improved
>> table--you might want to read that before you start.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> --John
>> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JC

"Jack Casuso"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 6:29 PM

Thanks, hadn't heard about the recall. Checked my model number, and called
them. Absolutely no hassle, sending everything right out.

"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Russ wrote:
>
> > Rebuilding an old saw that was given to me. Can someone provide me with
> > sizes (LxWxH) for these pieces:
> >
> > Rear table (PN: 63675)
> > Spacer board (PN: 63429)
> > Rip fence (PN: 63432)
> > Front table (PN: 63674)
>
> You might want to go over to
<http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/index2.htm>
> and plug in your model and serial numbers. The number you gave is one for
> which there is an upgrade kit available--that includes a new guard that is
> a significant improvement over the old one and a new table. No rip fence
> though. The recall is free, so you can't beat the price.
>
> Unless you're trying to rebuild it to museum quality just take any sturdy
> board for the fence--the fence on a radial saw is disposable. I usually
> use a 1x2 or 1x3 or scrap of MDF, but sometimes use a heavier one if I
need
> to attach hold-downs or some other kind of fixturing to it.
>
> The dimensions of the new table are different from the original. I put a
> new table copied from the original on mine (I have the same model) before
I
> became aware of the recall. The dimensions are 40 inches wide, with the
> rear table, spacer board, and front table 2, 8-3/4, and 19 inches deep
give
> or take a fraction. If you need it to the nearest 16th I think I still
> have the original on the scrap pile somewhere, but it will likely take
some
> digging to find all three pieces.
>
> If you don't have the Jon Eakes book on tuning radial saws
>
<http://www.wired-2-shop.com/joneakes/ProductDetail.asp?ProdID=3&nPrdImageID
=&CatID=3>,
> it's worth the price, and if you don't have the Mr. Sawdust book
> <http://www.mrsawdust.com/index.php> you should get that as well.
>
> The original table was 1" particle board, the new one is 1" MDF. The MDF
is
> much more satisfactory. Mr. Sawdust tells how to make an improved
> table--you might want to read that before you start.
>
>
>
> > Thanks!
>
> --
> --John
> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Rv

"Russ"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 6:35 PM

Thanks for the detailed info, John. The part about the recall rocks! I'll
definitely be calling them later today. Free saw + free upgrade kit. Can't
beat that.

This is a new type of saw for me as I'm relatively new to woodworking. Will
the re-sized table from the recall affect the measurements on the rip scale?
Also, do you ever actually use the scales on the saw, or do you still prefer
to measure & mark by hand and then visually line up the saw? I'm leaning
towards the manual method, myself.

Thanks again.

Russ


"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Russ wrote:
>
> > Rebuilding an old saw that was given to me. Can someone provide me with
> > sizes (LxWxH) for these pieces:
> >
> > Rear table (PN: 63675)
> > Spacer board (PN: 63429)
> > Rip fence (PN: 63432)
> > Front table (PN: 63674)
>
> You might want to go over to
<http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/index2.htm>
> and plug in your model and serial numbers. The number you gave is one for
> which there is an upgrade kit available--that includes a new guard that is
> a significant improvement over the old one and a new table. No rip fence
> though. The recall is free, so you can't beat the price.
>
> Unless you're trying to rebuild it to museum quality just take any sturdy
> board for the fence--the fence on a radial saw is disposable. I usually
> use a 1x2 or 1x3 or scrap of MDF, but sometimes use a heavier one if I
need
> to attach hold-downs or some other kind of fixturing to it.
>
> The dimensions of the new table are different from the original. I put a
> new table copied from the original on mine (I have the same model) before
I
> became aware of the recall. The dimensions are 40 inches wide, with the
> rear table, spacer board, and front table 2, 8-3/4, and 19 inches deep
give
> or take a fraction. If you need it to the nearest 16th I think I still
> have the original on the scrap pile somewhere, but it will likely take
some
> digging to find all three pieces.
>
> If you don't have the Jon Eakes book on tuning radial saws
>
<http://www.wired-2-shop.com/joneakes/ProductDetail.asp?ProdID=3&nPrdImageID
=&CatID=3>,
> it's worth the price, and if you don't have the Mr. Sawdust book
> <http://www.mrsawdust.com/index.php> you should get that as well.
>
> The original table was 1" particle board, the new one is 1" MDF. The MDF
is
> much more satisfactory. Mr. Sawdust tells how to make an improved
> table--you might want to read that before you start.
>
>
>
> > Thanks!
>
> --
> --John
> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

sf

skeezics

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 11:53 PM

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 18:35:57 GMT, "Russ"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Thanks for the detailed info, John. The part about the recall rocks! I'll
>definitely be calling them later today. Free saw + free upgrade kit. Can't
>beat that.
>
>This is a new type of saw for me as I'm relatively new to woodworking. Will
>the re-sized table from the recall affect the measurements on the rip scale?
>Also, do you ever actually use the scales on the saw, or do you still prefer
>to measure & mark by hand and then visually line up the saw? I'm leaning
>towards the manual method, myself.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Russ
>
>
not all will qualify! mine didnt. sob... oh well. the saw works fine
as it is.

skeez

Rv

"Russ"

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

10/09/2004 2:16 PM

I just called the 800# (800-511-2628). Pretty painless. The lady asked for
model & serial number. Then she got my name and address. That was it.
I'll post a followup when the package arrives.

Thanks for all the responses.

Russ

LL

LRod

in reply to "Russ" on 09/09/2004 4:00 PM

09/09/2004 11:27 PM

On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:45:00 -0400, "Lee Gordon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>My mileage varied from yours. Rather than order on the web, I called the
>toll-free number on the website, spoke to a nice woman who told me the stuff
>would arrive in two separate boxes in about a week's time. It arrived in
>just 3 days. No problems whatsoever.

Did you have to give them a serial number?

- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net


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