DD

"Dr. Deb"

07/07/2018 4:55 AM

Full Face Shield

A friend is looking for a full face shield, with air filtration. Any recommendations ?


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DD

"Dr. Deb"

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

14/07/2018 4:33 AM

Children, Children, lets play nice. Okay?

Your tantrums really look childish in the light of my original post. To whit:

I have a friend who may well be dying of a small cell carcinoma who would like to hope he might beat this thing and get back in his shop one day. He realizes his lungs are going to be fragile and wants the best protection he can get.

So, are there any quality recommendations that I can pass along to him?

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

10/07/2018 9:33 PM

snot blob wrote:

> I don't know <flush>
>
> https://i.imgflip.com/1emtru.jpg

Fixed yer link fer ya, fat boy.

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

15/07/2018 1:52 PM

Spalted Walt <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > BTW, time for a bit of self disclosure, Deborah is my daughter, I am her 73yr old father. Name is Delbert.
>
> So what exactly are you a doctor of, Delbert?

... {{(crickets)}}

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

10/07/2018 1:49 PM

On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 12:16:15 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
> On 2018-07-07, Spalted Walt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > What was it about Puckdropper's recommendation last month you didn't
> > like, Deborah?
> > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rec.woodworking/qbBHPKiiDhs
>
> I don't know about what Puckdropper posted, but you sir, are
> reprehensible for posting a gobble-gropes link. You SHOULD be ashamed
> of yerself .....but I know yer not! ;)
>
> http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
>
> nb

And you should ashamed of yerself for posting links to sites that haven't
been updated in over a decade and that contain links to sites that no
longer exist.

...but I know yer not.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

14/07/2018 7:20 PM

"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Children, Children, lets play nice. Okay?
>
> Your tantrums really look childish in the light of my original post.
> To whit:
>
> I have a friend who may well be dying of a small cell carcinoma who
> would like to hope he might beat this thing and get back in his shop
> one day. He realizes his lungs are going to be fragile and wants the
> best protection he can get.
>
> So, are there any quality recommendations that I can pass along to
> him?
>

I'm afraid I can only point you in the direction of more research. I
believe 3M has a professional line of PAPR products and may be able to
offer you specific suggestions and even set up a test fit if they have a
product your friend might like.

IIRC, there was the Trend Airshield, Trend Airshield Pro, another Yellow
one that put the battery on your belt, and the 3M model when I was
looking at this 10 years ago.

Hand tools don't throw nearly as much dust as their powered counter
parts.

Puckdropper
--
http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!

JC

J. Clarke

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

08/07/2018 11:40 AM

On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 05:39:01 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Deb"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 9:09:16 AM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
>
>>
>> > A friend is looking for a full face shield, with air filtration. Any recommendations ?
>>
>> What was it about Puckdropper's recommendation last month you didn't
>> like, Deborah?
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rec.woodworking/qbBHPKiiDhs
>>
>> Need more protection?
>> https://cdn3.volusion.com/ghqkt.ccqsw/v/vspfiles/photos/G3000SS-2.jpg
>> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xcysuNiS0dE/maxresdefault.jpg
>
>When I was asking for advice on the filtered face shield, I said it was for a friend. This friend has a second reccurrence of small cell lung cancer. He is looking to beat this one back and also wants to treat his lungs as gently as possible going into the future.

That being the case, the right choice IMO would be to spend the 1500
bucks or so for one of the NIOSH-approved systems and put the intake
in a clean area outside of the workshop. With that he'll be able to
sand, paint, use solvents, etc without having to worry about mixing
and matching filters or whether the filters have expired.

A couple of options:
https://www.pksafety.com/allegro-1-worker-full-mask.html
https://www.amazon.com/Allegro-Industries-9247-01-1-Worker-Standard/dp/B012D8EWL4/ref=pd_ybh_a_23

The difference is that the second one has a full helmet and neck drape
that allows one to wear glasses and doubles as an approved hard hat.
These aren't the only products on the market and a safety supply
company should be able to provide more choices.

But he should talk to his doctor about it--the doctor may know of a
better option.

>BTW, time for a bit of self disclosure, Deborah is my daughter, I am her 73yr old father. Name is Delbert.

DD

"Dr. Deb"

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

08/07/2018 5:39 AM

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 9:09:16 AM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:

>=20
> > A friend is looking for a full face shield, with air filtration. Any r=
ecommendations ?
>=20
> What was it about Puckdropper's recommendation last month you didn't
> like, Deborah?
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rec.woodworking/qbBHPKiiDhs
>=20
> Need more protection?
> https://cdn3.volusion.com/ghqkt.ccqsw/v/vspfiles/photos/G3000SS-2.jpg
> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xcysuNiS0dE/maxresdefault.jpg

When I was asking for advice on the filtered face shield, I said it was for=
a friend. This friend has a second reccurrence of small cell lung cancer.=
He is looking to beat this one back and also wants to treat his lungs as =
gently as possible going into the future.

BTW, time for a bit of self disclosure, Deborah is my daughter, I am her 73=
yr old father. Name is Delbert.

DD

"Dr. Deb"

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

15/07/2018 5:22 AM


>
> > Children, Children, lets play nice. Okay?
> >
> > Your tantrums really look childish in the light of my original post.
> > To whit:
> >
> > I have a friend who may well be dying of a small cell carcinoma who
> > would like to hope he might beat this thing and get back in his shop
> > one day. He realizes his lungs are going to be fragile and wants the
> > best protection he can get.
> >
> > So, are there any quality recommendations that I can pass along to
> > him?
> >
>
> I'm afraid I can only point you in the direction of more research. I
> believe 3M has a professional line of PAPR products and may be able to
> offer you specific suggestions and even set up a test fit if they have a
> product your friend might like.
>
> IIRC, there was the Trend Airshield, Trend Airshield Pro, another Yellow
> one that put the battery on your belt, and the 3M model when I was
> looking at this 10 years ago.
>
> Hand tools don't throw nearly as much dust as their powered counter
> parts.
>
> Puckdropper


Thanks

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

07/07/2018 3:38 PM

J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Instead of snarking you might want to read the post to which you
> responded. Note "WITH AIR FILTRATION".

Lighten up, Francis...

Connects to the exahaust port of hepa-filtered shop vac!
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/713R2IEdHIL._UX617_.jpg

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

14/07/2018 1:14 PM

"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:

> BTW, time for a bit of self disclosure, Deborah is my daughter, I am her 73yr old father. Name is Delbert.

So what exactly are you a doctor of, Delbert?

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

10/07/2018 6:32 PM

On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 8:34:09 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
> On 7/10/2018 2:49 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
> > contain links to sites that no
> > longer exist.
>
> True, Blinky the Shark has been dead for some time. OTOH, the link is
> still relevant. Unlike yerself:
>
> http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
>

That's not the link I was referring to. Reread what I wrote.

The point is this:

You bitched about someone posting a GG link, then you tried to support your
bitch with a 10 year old site that contains links that don't even work.

That doesn't make for a very impressive argument.

Dig deeper and you'll find comments such as "I use Netscape 7.2".

How "relevant" are comments that discuss the use of browser that is over
10 years old?


Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

07/07/2018 4:54 PM

"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> A friend is looking for a full face shield, with air filtration. Any
> recommendations ?

I've got a Trend Airshield Pro. I never use it. It dries out my sinuses
and I get a cough every time I use it. Some people may be more tolerant of
that sort of thing, but I can't recommend it.

Puckdropper
--
http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!

JC

J. Clarke

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

07/07/2018 11:19 AM

On Sat, 07 Jul 2018 14:09:09 +0000, Spalted Walt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A friend is looking for a full face shield, with air filtration. Any recommendations ?
>
>What was it about Puckdropper's recommendation last month you didn't
>like, Deborah?
>https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rec.woodworking/qbBHPKiiDhs
>
>Need more protection?
>https://cdn3.volusion.com/ghqkt.ccqsw/v/vspfiles/photos/G3000SS-2.jpg
>https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xcysuNiS0dE/maxresdefault.jpg

Instead of snarking you might want to read the post to which you
responded. Note "WITH AIR FILTRATION".

Something like this
<https://www.amazon.com/Flagline-PRA001-Triton-Powered-Respirator/dp/B0000DEZO8/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8>
only still in production.

Here's a similar system currently in production:
<https://www.amazon.com/Allegro-Industries-9247-01-1-Worker-Standard/dp/B012D8EWL4>

Note that that system costs about 5 times what the Triton did and
addresses my big complaints about it (filter not very good and short
battery life).

A cheaper alternative would be a full face respirator I don't have any
recommendations--if it's OSHA approved it should work but whether it's
comfortable or not is another story--with a tight seal and no air
movement other than from breathing they're not much fun in hot
weather.


nn

notbob

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

10/07/2018 4:16 PM

On 2018-07-07, Spalted Walt <[email protected]> wrote:

> What was it about Puckdropper's recommendation last month you didn't
> like, Deborah?
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rec.woodworking/qbBHPKiiDhs

I don't know about what Puckdropper posted, but you sir, are
reprehensible for posting a gobble-gropes link. You SHOULD be ashamed
of yerself .....but I know yer not! ;)

http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

nb

nn

notbob

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

10/07/2018 6:34 PM

On 7/10/2018 2:49 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

> contain links to sites that no
> longer exist.

True, Blinky the Shark has been dead for some time. OTOH, the link is
still relevant. Unlike yerself:

http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

> ...but I know yer not.

Geez! ...why didn't I think of that. Oh .....wait. I did. ;)

nb

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

07/07/2018 2:09 PM

"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:

> A friend is looking for a full face shield, with air filtration. Any recommendations ?

What was it about Puckdropper's recommendation last month you didn't
like, Deborah?
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rec.woodworking/qbBHPKiiDhs

Need more protection?
https://cdn3.volusion.com/ghqkt.ccqsw/v/vspfiles/photos/G3000SS-2.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xcysuNiS0dE/maxresdefault.jpg

k

in reply to "Dr. Deb" on 07/07/2018 4:55 AM

07/07/2018 12:02 PM

On Sat, 07 Jul 2018 15:38:48 +0000, Spalted Walt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Instead of snarking you might want to read the post to which you
>> responded. Note "WITH AIR FILTRATION".
>
>Lighten up, Francis...
>
>Connects to the exahaust port of hepa-filtered shop vac!
>https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/713R2IEdHIL._UX617_.jpg

...and doubles as a CPAP?


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