JJ

23/02/2008 7:26 PM

Finished My Cane

Bad knees, so carry a cane now. Lost a cane awhile back, and had
to buy another - but decided if I lost another, no more buying. So
lapped and glued some red oak flooring the oler son had given me. Very
solid, ran it thru the planer, to get it down to 1" thick, and roughed
out the handle. Then let it sit.

Well, bigger than bear squat, lost my cane. So took the shopmade
cane as is, the main shaft 1" X 2 38", and the handle still squared on
top. Carried it for a couple of days as is, to see just what I wanted.
Then finished it today. The length is good, same as the storebought
cane, which I find comfortable to use, and a nice height to lean on.
Used the power planer to take down the shaft on both sides, so it's now
1" X 1 1/8", and bandsawed the handle to round it on the outside curve.
I was thinking about rounding it, decided not. Then thought about
knocking the edges down to an octagon, decided not. Decided to leave it
square, so it wouldn't roll off a counter or table top, but did knock
down the edgs just a bit.

It's looking pretty decent, but I plan on making one or two more,
for just in case. The pieces for the next ones will be taken down to
1/2" X 1" before gluing. This will come up with a better looking cane,
and take less time, and effort, to finish. That oak flooring makes for
a very sturdy cane. The only actual expense will be some rubber tips
for the canes.

The next time I crank the planer up I'll run some pieces thru to
glue up three thick, then turn a carver's mallet, and see how that turns
out.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.


This topic has 23 replies

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 23/02/2008 7:26 PM

24/02/2008 8:43 AM

On Feb 24, 3:54 am, "toolman946 via CraftKB.com" <u40139@uwe> wrote:
> DGDevin... just ignore this a**hole. His only contribution to this site is
> criticism and sarcasm. I think he's forgotten any manners his Mama taught him.
>
> And I think I know where his lost cane might be... stuck up his hind end!
>

LOL. I think maybe you need to check whatever back files of
rec.woodworking you have access to. JOAT is certainly sarcastic, but
to say that's his only contribution to this site, maybe leavened by a
touch of criticism, means you have missed the point of probably 85% of
his posts. Which is your failing, not his.

Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 23/02/2008 7:26 PM

23/02/2008 9:42 PM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Bad knees, so carry a cane now. Lost a cane awhile back, and had
> to buy another - but decided if I lost another, no more buying.

Aside from selling very interesting canes designed for more than just being
an aid to walking, this company used to sell blanks with the crook already
formed but otherwise unshaped or stained. I don't see that item on their
website currently but perhaps they still sell them to those who ask.

http://www.canemasters.com/

Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to "DGDevin" on 23/02/2008 9:42 PM

24/02/2008 8:54 AM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> And your point would be?

That someone who wants to make a cane but doesn't want to start from scratch
could get a blank from this company and work with that. Of course someone
who already has a stick wouldn't need to do that, unless perhaps they're
sitting on that stick as you appear to be.

Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to "DGDevin" on 24/02/2008 8:54 AM

25/02/2008 11:23 AM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> That someone who wants to make a cane but doesn't want to start from
> scratch could get a blank from this company and work with that.
>
> Oh, OK. That's why I asked.
>
> Of course someone who already has a stick wouldn't need to do that,
> unless perhaps they're sitting on that stick as you appear to be.
>
> Now you're just copying wassisname. Now, eat more recycled food,
> and have a nice next life.

No, I managed to guess that your nickname is Mr. Crankypants all by myself,
which doesn't seem to be exactly an uncommon view here. See, it's entirely
possible to be interesting and even witty without being pointlessly snotty,
give it a try sometime, maintaining that constant sneer must be hard work.

Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to "DGDevin" on 25/02/2008 11:23 AM

29/02/2008 1:25 PM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> No, I managed to guess that your nickname is Mr. Crankypants <snip>
>
> Ah, didn't realize your age group. I'll try to modify my responses
> in the lfuture accordingly. Or, you could just kilfile me..

Why, you post interesting woodworking material when you're not doing your
impression of an actor in a Preparation H commerical.

JJ

in reply to "DGDevin" on 29/02/2008 1:25 PM

01/03/2008 2:08 AM

Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 1:25pm (EST-3) [email protected] (DGDevin)
doty sayeth:
Why, you post interesting woodworking material when you're not doing
your impression of an actor in a Preparation H commerical.

I don't recognize the reference, I don't use Preparation H, so
don't have to watch their commercials.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

JJ

in reply to "DGDevin" on 25/02/2008 11:23 AM

25/02/2008 5:59 PM

Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 11:23am (EST-3) [email protected] (DGDevin)
doth sayeth:
No, I managed to guess that your nickname is Mr. Crankypants <snip>

Ah, didn't realize your age group. I'll try to modify my responses
in the lfuture accordingly. Or, you could just kilfile me..



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

JJ

in reply to "DGDevin" on 24/02/2008 8:54 AM

24/02/2008 4:05 PM

Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 8:54am (EST-3) [email protected] (DGDevin) doth
sayeth:
Firstly:
That someone who wants to make a cane but doesn't want to start from
scratch could get a blank from this company and work with that.

Oh, OK. That's why I asked.

Secondly:
Of course someone who already has a stick wouldn't need to do that,
unless perhaps they're sitting on that stick as you appear to be.

Now you're just copying wassisname. Now, eat more recycled food,
and have a nice next life.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

JJ

in reply to "DGDevin" on 23/02/2008 9:42 PM

24/02/2008 1:21 AM

Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 9:42pm (EST-3) [email protected] (DGDevin) for
some reason did post:
Aside from selling very interesting canes designed for more than just
being an aid to walking, this company used to sell blanks with the crook
already formed but otherwise unshaped or stained. I don't see that item
on their website currently but perhaps they still sell them to those who
ask.
http://www.canemasters.com/

And your point would be?



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 23/02/2008 7:26 PM

24/02/2008 8:57 AM


"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> LOL. I think maybe you need to check whatever back files of
> rec.woodworking you have access to. JOAT is certainly sarcastic, but
> to say that's his only contribution to this site, maybe leavened by a
> touch of criticism, means you have missed the point of probably 85% of
> his posts. Which is your failing, not his.

Indeed, his woodworking posts are usually interesting, one only has to
ignore the sometimes juvenile tone which is generally not hard to do.

Cc

"Charley"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 23/02/2008 7:26 PM

24/02/2008 1:27 PM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bad knees, so carry a cane now. Lost a cane awhile back, and had
> to buy another - but decided if I lost another, no more buying. So
> lapped and glued some red oak flooring the oler son had given me. Very
> solid, ran it thru the planer, to get it down to 1" thick, and roughed
> out the handle. Then let it sit.
>
> Well, bigger than bear squat, lost my cane. So took the shopmade
> cane as is, the main shaft 1" X 2 38", and the handle still squared on
> top. Carried it for a couple of days as is, to see just what I wanted.
> Then finished it today. The length is good, same as the storebought
> cane, which I find comfortable to use, and a nice height to lean on.
> Used the power planer to take down the shaft on both sides, so it's now
> 1" X 1 1/8", and bandsawed the handle to round it on the outside curve.
> I was thinking about rounding it, decided not. Then thought about
> knocking the edges down to an octagon, decided not. Decided to leave it
> square, so it wouldn't roll off a counter or table top, but did knock
> down the edgs just a bit.
>
> It's looking pretty decent, but I plan on making one or two more,
> for just in case. The pieces for the next ones will be taken down to
> 1/2" X 1" before gluing. This will come up with a better looking cane,
> and take less time, and effort, to finish. That oak flooring makes for
> a very sturdy cane. The only actual expense will be some rubber tips
> for the canes.
>
> The next time I crank the planer up I'll run some pieces thru to
> glue up three thick, then turn a carver's mallet, and see how that turns
> out.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> 10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker
>
> I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.
>


Joat,

Put your phone number on your canes so they can call home.

It works for me.

Charley

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Charley" on 24/02/2008 1:27 PM

24/02/2008 5:12 PM


"Puckdropper" wrote:


> If you want some free "cane-stock" hang around the local hockey rink.
> Most guys break their sticks near the blade, and once broken there's not
> much they can do with them. Stick shafts are usually around 1x2 (as in
> 1x2 lumber, not 1"x2") in size.

SFWIW, the latest and greatest for hockey sticks is epoxy and carbon fiber.

Just one of the reasons cirbon fiber is on allocation.

Lew

Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to "Charley" on 24/02/2008 1:27 PM

25/02/2008 11:31 AM


"Puckdropper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> If you want some free "cane-stock" hang around the local hockey rink.
> Most guys break their sticks near the blade, and once broken there's not
> much they can do with them. Stick shafts are usually around 1x2 (as in
> 1x2 lumber, not 1"x2") in size.

Broken pool cues would be another good material but that would mean hanging
around biker bars so there might be a chance of being the one the pool cues
get broken on.

From talking to the guys at Canemasters their preferred method of finishing
is soaking the sticks in mineral oil for 36 hours and then applying several
coats of tung oil with progressively finer sanding between coats. The thing
about their sticks is they're meant to be more than an aid to walking, they
are designed with martial arts/self-defense in mind, they are not the sort
of cane one finds in a drug store. For those interested in rolling their
own there might be some ideas to be had on the Canemasters web site.

JJ

in reply to "Charley" on 24/02/2008 1:27 PM

24/02/2008 4:12 PM

Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 1:27pm [email protected] (Charley) doth sayeth:
Put your phone number on your canes so they can call home.
It works for me.

That's a thought. On the other hand, it'd probably cost me more in
gas to retreive one than it would cost to just make another.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to "Charley" on 24/02/2008 1:27 PM

25/02/2008 5:19 AM

On Feb 25, 5:55 am, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:12:45 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >"Puckdropper" wrote:
>
> >> If you want some free "cane-stock" hang around the local hockey rink.
> >> Most guys break their sticks near the blade, and once broken there's not
> >> much they can do with them. Stick shafts are usually around 1x2 (as in
> >> 1x2 lumber, not 1"x2") in size.
>
> >SFWIW, the latest and greatest for hockey sticks is epoxy and carbon fiber.
>
> True, but lots of folks still play with wooden shafts. A carbon
> shaft can be $200+, the blade costs extra.

You do NOT want to know what a carbon fiber tripod for your camera
would cost, but the cheapest ones are double that blade cost plus
some. The most expensive ones...

Wonderful for backpackers and us old farts who try to get out of
lifting too much that's heavy.

JJ

in reply to Charlie Self on 25/02/2008 5:19 AM

25/02/2008 2:57 PM

Saw how hockey sticks are made on How It's Made. Neat.

Guess I made my original point a bit vague. A lot vague? Vague.
What point? What're we talking about. Anyway, making a cane isn't
rocket science. Sure, could look better, but needing a cane NOW, it
still looks pretty good. Major point, it was a learning experience. I
didn't expect it to look beautiful, even if I'd taken a week to make it.
It's the first one, a prototype, in fact, even if not in name. When I
make something new, I usually go thru several variations, improving each
time. I recently made two routing jigs, both from scratch, because the
first didn't work as I wanted. Modified another. May have to make a
new version of yet another. That's the way it goes sometimes. So the
cane is the first version. Acually, it doesn't look real bad, and it IS
functionsl. Function was the first requirement, looks second.

I'd been thinking about rounding the shaft of the cane, but won't.
I kind like the flat sides, and that leaves space for carving, or
painting, or both, designs - which a kid would probably like if they
happen to need a cane. I think I may make at least one octagon, later.
But all in all the square shaft makes it kinda distinctive. I was going
to round the handle too, but found e straight sides are quite
comfortable, so don't plan on rounding any of them. The inside of the
handle was cut with a 5" hole saw. Just right.

I suppose the final point is, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to
make a cane. Just make one, see how it turns out, then make another
one, and make it better. Repeat until you get something you like. I
need to double-check, but I think rubber crutch tips are less expensive
then rubber cane tips. And, if I recall right, there are rubber tips
that go on furniture legs that cost even less. Hell, glue some 1/2"
plywood strips together, nothing says you 'have' to use solid wood. Ive
got a woodburner that gets little use, and those flat sides would make a
nice place to burn some designs on.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "Charley" on 24/02/2008 1:27 PM

25/02/2008 12:16 AM

[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:4859-47C1DDB1-812@storefull-
3332.bay.webtv.net:

> Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 1:27pm [email protected] (Charley) doth sayeth:
> Put your phone number on your canes so they can call home.
> It works for me.
>
> That's a thought. On the other hand, it'd probably cost me more in
> gas to retreive one than it would cost to just make another.
>
>
>
> JOAT

If you want some free "cane-stock" hang around the local hockey rink.
Most guys break their sticks near the blade, and once broken there's not
much they can do with them. Stick shafts are usually around 1x2 (as in
1x2 lumber, not 1"x2") in size.

They don't always make good wood for other projects, but I do have a pool
cue stand base built with them. :-)

Puckdropper
--
Marching to the beat of a different drum is great... unless you're in
marching band.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

JJ

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/02/2008 12:16 AM

24/02/2008 7:54 PM

Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 12:16am (EST+5) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
doth sayeth:
If you want some free "cane-stock" hang around the local hockey rink.
<snip>

Their might be a hocky rink around here, but it'd be in the 'big
city' if so. And that'd wind up in a lot of gas money for 'free' wood.
Of course, you could always ship me a bunch of broken sticks, as a
sacrifice for the Woodworking Gods. They'd appreciate it. In the
meantime I'll be using oak flooring, and maybe try some free pallet
wood.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "Charley" on 24/02/2008 1:27 PM

27/02/2008 6:11 PM

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:19:18 -0800 (PST), Charlie Self
<[email protected]> wrote:


>You do NOT want to know what a carbon fiber tripod for your camera
>would cost, but the cheapest ones are double that blade cost plus
>some. The most expensive ones...

Want to hear something interesting?

Carbon fiber bicycle parts have gotten far cheaper! Maybe by a factor
of 1/2 over the last five years. Lots and lots of mid-grade CF stuff
coming from China.

The top of the line, "defense grade" CF is export restricted, so it's
only seen on American made parts, like this frame:
<http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/2008/road/madone/madone69pro/>

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "Charley" on 24/02/2008 1:27 PM

25/02/2008 5:55 AM

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:12:45 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Puckdropper" wrote:
>
>
>> If you want some free "cane-stock" hang around the local hockey rink.
>> Most guys break their sticks near the blade, and once broken there's not
>> much they can do with them. Stick shafts are usually around 1x2 (as in
>> 1x2 lumber, not 1"x2") in size.
>
>SFWIW, the latest and greatest for hockey sticks is epoxy and carbon fiber.
>

True, but lots of folks still play with wooden shafts. A carbon
shaft can be $200+, the blade costs extra.

tv

"toolman946 via CraftKB.com"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 23/02/2008 7:26 PM

24/02/2008 8:54 AM

DGDevin... just ignore this a**hole. His only contribution to this site is
criticism and sarcasm. I think he's forgotten any manners his Mama taught him.


And I think I know where his lost cane might be... stuck up his hind end!

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JJ

in reply to "toolman946 via CraftKB.com" on 24/02/2008 8:54 AM

24/02/2008 11:48 AM

Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 8:54am (EST+5) u40139@uwe doth sayeth:
(toolman946=A0via=A0CraftKB.com)
DGDevin... just ignore this a**hole. His only contribution to this site
is criticism and sarcasm. I think he's forgotten any manners his Mama
taught him.
And I think I know where his lost cane might be... stuck up his hind
end!

Well, golly, gee. Sure didn't mean to offend someone like you.
that's been here on rec.woodworking for so long, like you. Let us know
when you've been here all day. LMAO I didn't see the guy's point,
unless it was to "biy" an unfinished cane and finish it. Which is why I
asked. Missed that, didn't you? But seeing as how this 'is' a
"woodworking" newsgroup, not an arts & craft newsgroup, what would be
the point of buying? Maybe for you, not for me. Or, possibly he just
missed 'my' point, which was it's no biggie to make a cane from scratch;
a bit about how I did it, and things I ran into; in other words, anyone
can make a cane from scratch. I recall posting a link on how to make
canes; I didn't use it myself, except as inspiration.. Anyway, he's a
big boy, and can answer for himself. My first cane is acceptable, the
next will be better, and so on. For sure 'you' missed my point. Now,
eat recycled food, and have a nice next life.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 23/02/2008 7:26 PM

24/02/2008 11:11 AM

"toolman946 via CraftKB.com" wrote

> And I think I know where his lost cane might be... stuck up his hind end!

You really need to stop hiding behind that cherry picking web forum where
they must piggy back on Usenet to generate relevance.

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