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"stoutman"

18/03/2005 1:43 AM

Ehh? 3 9/16 " enuff ?

Yeah thats right. I'm still talking about my new woodpeck plate.

The max opening is 3 9/16". Is that really enough room to spin a 3 1/2 "
raised panel bit? Sure it will fit through the hole (I'm not dat stoop'ed,
geesh!) but that only leaves 1/16" total. Or 1/32" away from scraping
carbide on aluminum.

Am I asking for trouble ?


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"sandi"

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

18/03/2005 5:23 AM

It's called zero clearance!!! Yes, you want the hole to be as close to
the cutter as possible. This reduces chances of the wood going down in
the cracks, helps with tear out etc... The router bit is chucked up
into the collet and this is all centered in the hole. There is no
reason that the bit should move out of this position. Think of blades
on a table saw. When you cut dados you need to make a zero clearance
that just perfectly fits the blades. Same principle.

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

17/03/2005 9:13 PM


"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah thats right. I'm still talking about my new woodpeck plate.
>
> The max opening is 3 9/16". Is that really enough room to spin a 3 1/2 "
> raised panel bit? Sure it will fit through the hole (I'm not dat
> stoop'ed, geesh!) but that only leaves 1/16" total. Or 1/32" away from
> scraping carbide on aluminum.
>
> Am I asking for trouble ?
>

I made a plate so I could use a 3-1/2" raised panel bit. The only hole saw I
had at the time made a hole slightly SMALLER than the bit. I put the bit in
the router, raised the bit until it almost touched the plate, turned the
router on low speed, and slowly raised the bit through the plate. So in my
case the bit is the same size as the hole. It works fine.
Greg

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loutent

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

17/03/2005 9:14 PM

Hi Stoutman,

Well, I'm not familiar with woodpeck (tho SWMBO is an avid
bird watcher/rescuer/bird-audiophile(?)). Got two pair
of cardinals at our feeder...but I digress.

It seems to me that carbide will win out every time
vs. Aluminum.

As you progress in woodworking, it is surprising how
large the small dimensions start to become. When I began
cobbling about 15+ years ago, I was pleased if things were
remotely square and flush (most often, not.) 1/16 seemed almost
insignificant. Now I'm upset at the 1/32th's and whatever
comes after that (geesh-give me a minute now!)

Now I am at this damn spot where my incompetence is in
conflict with my awareness. It's a real tug-o-war.

I've got a huge raised panel bit in my shaper. It gives me
a chill whenever I fire it up. But I keep pushin' stuff
past it.

At least I recently got it sharpened.

Bottom line: 3 9/16 will *ABSOLUTELY* fit through
a 3 1/2 inch hole. I stake reputation on this!

Lou

In article <[email protected]>, stoutman
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah thats right. I'm still talking about my new woodpeck plate.
>
> The max opening is 3 9/16". Is that really enough room to spin a 3 1/2 "
> raised panel bit? Sure it will fit through the hole (I'm not dat stoop'ed,
> geesh!) but that only leaves 1/16" total. Or 1/32" away from scraping
> carbide on aluminum.
>
> Am I asking for trouble ?
>
>

LL

LRod

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

18/03/2005 2:52 AM

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:14:16 -0500, loutent <[email protected]> wrote:

>Bottom line: 3 9/16 will *ABSOLUTELY* fit through
>a 3 1/2 inch hole. I stake reputation on this!

Uh, you meant to say that, right?

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Ww

WillR

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

17/03/2005 10:01 PM

stoutman wrote:
> After reading that, I had to count the number of empty beer bottles nex=
t to=20
> me and then read it again.
>=20
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>=20
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> "LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message=20
> news:[email protected]...
>=20
>>On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:14:16 -0500, loutent <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bottom line: 3 9/16 will *ABSOLUTELY* fit through
>>>a 3 1/2 inch hole. I stake reputation on this!
>>
>>Uh, you meant to say that, right?
>>
>>--=20
>>LRod
>>
>>Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>>
>>Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>>
>>http://www.woodbutcher.net=20
>=20
>=20
>=20

Did you get the same number twice? If so you probably did read it=20
correctly -- and you haven't had that many bottles yet.


--=20
Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw

Ww

WillR

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

17/03/2005 9:57 PM

LRod wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:14:16 -0500, loutent <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>>Bottom line: 3 9/16 will *ABSOLUTELY* fit through
>>a 3 1/2 inch hole. I stake reputation on this!
>=20
>=20
> Uh, you meant to say that, right?
>=20

He probably did and I suspect he's right. Suspect I have the same drill=20
set he does. Wanna buy it? Cheap?

I need to drill some holes for compound M&T and I could use some=20
accurate drills...

:-)


--=20
Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw

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"stoutman"

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

18/03/2005 2:59 AM

After reading that, I had to count the number of empty beer bottles next to
me and then read it again.





"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:14:16 -0500, loutent <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Bottom line: 3 9/16 will *ABSOLUTELY* fit through
>>a 3 1/2 inch hole. I stake reputation on this!
>
> Uh, you meant to say that, right?
>
> --
> LRod
>
> Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>
> Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>
> http://www.woodbutcher.net

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

18/03/2005 11:35 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yeah thats right. I'm still talking about my new woodpeck plate.
>
>The max opening is 3 9/16". Is that really enough room to spin a 3 1/2 "
>raised panel bit? Sure it will fit through the hole (I'm not dat stoop'ed,
>geesh!) but that only leaves 1/16" total. Or 1/32" away from scraping
>carbide on aluminum.
>
>Am I asking for trouble ?

Not if your shaft is true....

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

DV

Dan Valleskey

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

17/03/2005 10:11 PM

If you have 1/32 of "wiggle", you have other problems.

And, as has been mentioned, the aluminum will be cut away just fine.


-Dan V.

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:43:15 GMT, "stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Yeah thats right. I'm still talking about my new woodpeck plate.
>
>The max opening is 3 9/16". Is that really enough room to spin a 3 1/2 "
>raised panel bit? Sure it will fit through the hole (I'm not dat stoop'ed,
>geesh!) but that only leaves 1/16" total. Or 1/32" away from scraping
>carbide on aluminum.
>
>Am I asking for trouble ?
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "stoutman" on 18/03/2005 1:43 AM

18/03/2005 3:00 AM


"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah thats right. I'm still talking about my new woodpeck plate.
>
> The max opening is 3 9/16". Is that really enough room to spin a 3 1/2 "
> raised panel bit? Sure it will fit through the hole (I'm not dat
> stoop'ed, geesh!) but that only leaves 1/16" total. Or 1/32" away from
> scraping carbide on aluminum.
>
> Am I asking for trouble ?
>

Only a problem if you router is not centered in the hole. Or if your bit
tends to stretch when it spins. ;~)


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