Multi-purpose hand tools worth getting?

On Dec 24, 12:57=A0am, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> FrozenNorth wrote:
> > On 12/24/2012 12:42 AM, Bill wrote:
> >> William F. Adams ([email protected]) wrote:
> >>> Trying to put together a small toolbox for making small to medium-
> >>> sized boxes.
>
> >>> I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>
> >>> ``What multi-purpose wood-working tools are actually worth getting an=
d
> >>> putting in a tool Kit intended for making small=97medium-sized boxes?=
''
>
> >>> w/ a corollary of:
>
> >>> ``What tools are only useful in single-purpose form?
> >> Seems like you have been around the block. Recommend a good catalog li=
ke
> >> Lie-Neilsen or Veritas.
> >> "Actually worth getting" is vague. =A0Worth getting for what? Suggest =
you
> >> get what you need for your next project.
>
> > Sounds more like a quick recommendation for a last minute Christmas
> > gift for someone else.
>
> If so, a set of "scrapers" may satisfy the "small and elegant"
> requirement. =A0But for small boxes, maybe one is enough.

Too useful to have just one. I have dozens of smaller
scrapers, each with various molding profiles filed into
the edges. Best "table top" scraper I've ever seen
was my c.1890 26" George Bishop crosscut saw
after I jointed the teeth back prior to retoothing it for
rip. Just for laughs, I passed a burnisher over it.
Actually took a decent burr. Ever seen a 24" wide
scraper shaving?

William F. Adams wrote:

> Trying to put together a small toolbox for making small to medium-
> sized boxes.
>
> I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>
>``What multi-purpose wood-working tools are actually worth getting
>and
> putting in a tool Kit intended for making small—medium-sized
> boxes?''
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This close to Christmas, some Benjamin(s).


Lew

"William F. Adams ([email protected])" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Trying to put together a small toolbox for making small to medium-
> sized boxes.
>
> I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>

*snip*

>
> I want small, elegant & clever. Thanks!
>
> Wiliam

Those 6-in-1 handheld screwdrivers are very useful and efficient in space
and functionality. During pool setup/winterizing, I carry one in my
pocket as it will turn everything I need. That's not only all the
mounting hardware, but the hose clamps and even drain plug.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On Dec 24, 12:42=A0am, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> William F. Adams ([email protected]) wrote:> Trying to put together a sma=
ll toolbox for making small to medium-
> > sized boxes.
>
> > I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>
> > ``What multi-purpose wood-working tools are actually worth getting and
> > putting in a tool Kit intended for making small=97medium-sized boxes?''
>
> > w/ a corollary of:
>
> > ``What tools are only useful in single-purpose form?
>
> Seems like you have been around the block. Recommend a good catalog like
> Lie-Neilsen or Veritas.
> "Actually worth getting" is vague. =A0Worth getting for what?

Making small--medium-sized boxes.

> Suggest you
> get what you need for your next project.

That's a separate list (if you're curious, it's a small magnetic saw
guide w/ saw --- want a better way to cut boxes apart, and a Veritas
miniature router plane --- want a nicer one for hinge installation).

This is the project after that --- I want a small tool box (or chest)
filled w/ good quality tools which is usable for small--medium
projects and as much else as is possible. It'll be matched up w/ a
portable work bench and some folding saw horses --- my workbench is
one end of a tiny basement laundry room and I like to work on the back
deck, so my goal here is to minimize trips up / down the stairs.

William

On Dec 24, 2:13=A0am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> "William F. Adams ([email protected])" <[email protected]> wrote innews:4=
[email protected]:
>
> > Trying to put together a small toolbox for making small to medium-
> > sized boxes.
>
> > I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>
> *snip*
>
>
>
> > I want small, elegant & clever. Thanks!
>
> > Wiliam
>
> Those 6-in-1 handheld screwdrivers are very useful and efficient in space
> and functionality. =A0During pool setup/winterizing, I carry one in my
> pocket as it will turn everything I need. =A0That's not only all the
> mounting hardware, but the hose clamps and even drain plug.

Thanks! That's the sort of endorsement I was looking for.

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:57:00 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:

>FrozenNorth wrote:
>> On 12/24/2012 12:42 AM, Bill wrote:
>>> William F. Adams ([email protected]) wrote:
>>>> Trying to put together a small toolbox for making small to medium-
>>>> sized boxes.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>>>>
>>>> ``What multi-purpose wood-working tools are actually worth getting and
>>>> putting in a tool Kit intended for making small—medium-sized boxes?''
>>>>
>>>> w/ a corollary of:
>>>>
>>>> ``What tools are only useful in single-purpose form?
>>> Seems like you have been around the block. Recommend a good catalog like
>>> Lie-Neilsen or Veritas.
>>> "Actually worth getting" is vague. Worth getting for what? Suggest you
>>> get what you need for your next project.
>>>
>> Sounds more like a quick recommendation for a last minute Christmas
>> gift for someone else.
>>
>>
>If so, a set of "scrapers" may satisfy the "small and elegant"
>requirement. But for small boxes, maybe one is enough.

Bite your tongue, Bill.

There can -never- be too many clamps or too many scrapers.

--
Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace.
-- Robert J. Sawyer

William F. Adams ([email protected]) wrote:
> Trying to put together a small toolbox for making small to medium-
> sized boxes.
>
> I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>
> ``What multi-purpose wood-working tools are actually worth getting and
> putting in a tool Kit intended for making small—medium-sized boxes?''
>
> w/ a corollary of:
>
> ``What tools are only useful in single-purpose form?
Seems like you have been around the block. Recommend a good catalog like
Lie-Neilsen or Veritas.
"Actually worth getting" is vague. Worth getting for what? Suggest you
get what you need for your next project.

Have fun,
Bill



>
> Things which are in:
>
> multi-purpose:
>
> - gunsmithing hammer
> - 3-in-1 Brass Marking Gauge
> - reproduction #1 Odd-Job (or a combination square—- I’d be
> interested in discussions as to why I’d prefer one over the other)
> - Veritas® Chisel Plane and a 1” chisel
> - Kreg KMA2900 Multi-Mark Multi-Purpose Marking and Measuring Tool
> instead of a sliding bevel?
> - yankee screwdriver for drilling holes / driving, or a set of
> gimlets
> - combination plane
> - jack plane w/ 2 blades (cambered for scrub / rough work and flat
> for fine work)
>
> and I always have a Leatherman P.S.T. w/ me.
>
> single-function:
>
> - a block plane (Lee Valley Skew) was suggested last time I discussed
> this
> - router plane
> - files (flat and half round),
> - a rasp as well (four-in-hand)
> - Marking knife.
> - Dividers / scribe.
> - oil & stones for sharpening
>
> considering:
>
> - Reciprocating Saw Blade & Screwdriver Handle but the screwdriving
> is redundant. Suggestions for a small, portable saw or set of saws?
>
> Ridiculous and won't be included (I'd appreciate warnings of more such
> as well):
>
> - combination rasp / wood chisel
>
> I want small, elegant & clever. Thanks!
>
> Wiliam

On 12/24/2012 12:42 AM, Bill wrote:
> William F. Adams ([email protected]) wrote:
>> Trying to put together a small toolbox for making small to medium-
>> sized boxes.
>>
>> I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>>
>> ``What multi-purpose wood-working tools are actually worth getting and
>> putting in a tool Kit intended for making small—medium-sized boxes?''
>>
>> w/ a corollary of:
>>
>> ``What tools are only useful in single-purpose form?
> Seems like you have been around the block. Recommend a good catalog like
> Lie-Neilsen or Veritas.
> "Actually worth getting" is vague. Worth getting for what? Suggest you
> get what you need for your next project.
>
Sounds more like a quick recommendation for a last minute Christmas gift
for someone else.


--
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The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

FrozenNorth wrote:
> On 12/24/2012 12:42 AM, Bill wrote:
>> William F. Adams ([email protected]) wrote:
>>> Trying to put together a small toolbox for making small to medium-
>>> sized boxes.
>>>
>>> I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>>>
>>> ``What multi-purpose wood-working tools are actually worth getting and
>>> putting in a tool Kit intended for making small—medium-sized boxes?''
>>>
>>> w/ a corollary of:
>>>
>>> ``What tools are only useful in single-purpose form?
>> Seems like you have been around the block. Recommend a good catalog like
>> Lie-Neilsen or Veritas.
>> "Actually worth getting" is vague. Worth getting for what? Suggest you
>> get what you need for your next project.
>>
> Sounds more like a quick recommendation for a last minute Christmas
> gift for someone else.
>
>
If so, a set of "scrapers" may satisfy the "small and elegant"
requirement. But for small boxes, maybe one is enough.

On 12/24/2012 9:23 AM, William F. Adams ([email protected]) wrote:
...

> This is the project after that --- I want a small tool box (or chest)
> filled w/ good quality tools which is usable for small--medium
> projects and as much else as is possible. It'll be matched up w/ a
> portable work bench and some folding saw horses --- my workbench is
> one end of a tiny basement laundry room and I like to work on the back
> deck, so my goal here is to minimize trips up / down the stairs.
...

Well, everybody's view of what is "small--medium" varies as well as what
is on the project list horizon. You've mentioned boxes but again that's
such a generic classification as to be almost meaningless in tool
selection. All depends on what techniques you use and/or consider using...

I'd think you would already know what you use most (both techniques and
tools) and that finding a minimalist set of tools that fulfills the need
would simply be going through that list.

Then, once you have that, then going through it again w/ the idea of
finding multi-use stuff to pare down the number would be possibility I
guess...or, if the toolset is going to override the techniques, then
select that and make the work fit them (a most dissatisfying way to work
I'd think, but then again, all depends on personal tastes and objectives).

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On 12/24/12 1:13 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> "William F. Adams ([email protected])" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Trying to put together a small toolbox for making small to medium-
>> sized boxes.
>>
>> I'd like to be efficient in terms of space / functionality, so ask:
>>
>
> *snip*
>
>>
>> I want small, elegant & clever. Thanks!
>>
>> Wiliam
>
> Those 6-in-1 handheld screwdrivers are very useful and efficient in space
> and functionality. During pool setup/winterizing, I carry one in my
> pocket as it will turn everything I need. That's not only all the
> mounting hardware, but the hose clamps and even drain plug.
>
> Puckdropper
>

I have a 4 in 1 and a 6 in 1 that I use all the time.
Not only are the flat, phillips, and square drive bits right there, but
the slots to hold the bits are 1/4" and 5/16" which are very common nuts.


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William F. Adams ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> That's a separate list (if you're curious, it's a small magnetic saw
> guide w/ saw --- want a better way to cut boxes apart, and a Veritas
> miniature router plane --- want a nicer one for hinge installation).
>
> This is the project after that --- I want a small tool box (or chest)
> filled w/ good quality tools which is usable for small--medium
> projects and as much else as is possible. It'll be matched up w/ a
> portable work bench and some folding saw horses --- my workbench is
> one end of a tiny basement laundry room and I like to work on the back
> deck, so my goal here is to minimize trips up / down the stairs.
I'd make a suitable tool-tote that holds what you regularly carry up and
down the stairs.
I have a separate one for "electrical tools" for instance,and two for
working on machinery (sockets, screwdrivers, etc.)--one
English, and one metric (segregating the socket/wrench sets made me a
happier person!)

Bill in IN



>
> William