RH

"Rob H."

14/05/2009 6:13 AM

What is it? Set 284

More photos have been posted on the web site:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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whit3rd

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 3:45 PM

1615: clamping handle to pick up something hot (baking pans?)

1616: change sorter/counter - seen in banks, mainly

1617: shackle (missing the pulley part); widening is for the passage
of rope.

1618: a spout for distributing some dry pellets from a big bottle?
Doggie kibble? Gumballs?

1619: planishing hammer, for silversmithing or similar work.

1620: it's a resistance meter, all right, probably for assaying wood
for
dryness (the second scale would be percent moisture content: zero
moisture and infinite resistance go together). I've seen these before
with a bed-of-nails probe, to stab a rough board. Soil
moisture would be a similar application.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 6:39 PM


"Dan Coby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rob H. wrote:
>> More photos have been posted on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 1618: Is used for dumping Mentos candies into a cola bottle.
> The cola and the Mentos react and then shoot out of the bottle
> forming a fountain. (This is best done outdoors.) The tube and
> pin and string allows this to be done while from a safe (clean)
> distance.
>
> My younger sister gave one for Christmas. Mine includes a rocket
> that can be placed onto the tube.
>
> Here are a couple of links to a place that sells the tube:
>
> Tube only:
>
> http://www.stevespanglerscience.com/product/2072
>
> Tube with rocket:
>
> http://www.stevespanglerscience.com/product/great-geysers
>
>
> Dan

Thank you Dan.

That is a cute, interesting project for kids. I know just a kid who will get
this for a present. I know he will enjoy it and make a mess at the same
time. It doesn't get better than that for a kid!


SP

Stealth Pilot

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 11:37 AM

On Thu, 14 May 2009 06:13:34 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:

>More photos have been posted on the web site:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob

1615. a device for pulling stuck toast out of a toaster.

1616. a coin counting machine. wonderfully versatile in that it doesnt
matter wich way around the coin is.

1617. a pulley sheaf missing the pulley wheel. lightweight duty,
probably something like a sash window counterweight.

1618. looks like a 'vacutainer' of some sort. used for drawing blood
out of people for analysis.

1619. it is a hammer. lovely in the proportioning but it's exact
purpose has no mystery. it is for hitting something.
obviously very effective since it seems to have broken the bits beside
it.

1620. an inference meter for the calibration of babbage calculating
machines.

1621. it looks awfully like the box that inference meter came in but
it could be a magicians stock in trade secret drawer trick ....which
explains why it is invisible.

Stealth :-) Pilot






DC

Dan Coby

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 3:06 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> More photos have been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1618: Is used for dumping Mentos candies into a cola bottle.
The cola and the Mentos react and then shoot out of the bottle
forming a fountain. (This is best done outdoors.) The tube and
pin and string allows this to be done while from a safe (clean)
distance.

My younger sister gave one for Christmas. Mine includes a rocket
that can be placed onto the tube.

Here are a couple of links to a place that sells the tube:

Tube only:

http://www.stevespanglerscience.com/product/2072

Tube with rocket:

http://www.stevespanglerscience.com/product/great-geysers


Dan

EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 7:09 PM

Andrew Erickson wrote:

>
> 1620 - An electric meter, which appears to directly measure amperage and
> indirectly measure resistance (presumably by being put in series with
> the resistance and a known voltage source). I'm guessing the voltage
> used is around 120 volts or so, and the bottom scale is amps, and the
> top scale is ohms. Probably, this would have been used primarily for
> tasks along the lines of electric motor servicing and other fairly
> heavy-duty uses. I'd us my Fluke over this most any day, I think.
>

It it reads ohms, the source impedance is probably 125 ohms. In that
case, if it reads circuit amps simultaneously, the power supply would
have to be above 3,125 V and the meter would have to dissipate more than
78kW.

I think it reads milliamps, with a source voltage adjusted to 3.125 V.
The supply could be 3 flashlight cells or a transformer.

uu

usablevirus

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 10:35 AM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> scribbled:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1616 - coin sorter/counter

1617 - appears to be missing the pulley wheel. the one side being
wider could be from usage.

1620 - an ohm meter for measuring resistance.

pr

pmv

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 4:07 PM

On May 14, 6:13=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> More photos have been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

1618 Mentos dropper. Screws on the top of a diet coke bottle.

EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

15/05/2009 10:08 AM

Andrew Erickson wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> E Z Peaces <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Andrew Erickson wrote:
>>
>>> 1620 - An electric meter, which appears to directly measure amperage and
>>> indirectly measure resistance (presumably by being put in series with
>>> the resistance and a known voltage source). I'm guessing the voltage
>>> used is around 120 volts or so, and the bottom scale is amps, and the
>>> top scale is ohms. Probably, this would have been used primarily for
>>> tasks along the lines of electric motor servicing and other fairly
>>> heavy-duty uses. I'd us my Fluke over this most any day, I think.
>>>
>> It it reads ohms, the source impedance is probably 125 ohms. In that
>> case, if it reads circuit amps simultaneously, the power supply would
>> have to be above 3,125 V and the meter would have to dissipate more than
>> 78kW.
>>
>> I think it reads milliamps, with a source voltage adjusted to 3.125 V.
>> The supply could be 3 flashlight cells or a transformer.
>
> Hmmm...I guess I wasn't thinking through my math very thoroughly in
> coming up with the range. Seeing as how Rob mentioned in another post
> that it was used for blasting, milliamps is far more likely, as you
> suggest.
>
If I can't contribute any brilliant guesses, I can always pick over the
math! :)

SR

"Steve R."

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

15/05/2009 1:39 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> More photos have been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1616 Automatic coin sorter????

1620 Some sort of Ohm meter???

Steve R.

Wc

"WW"

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

15/05/2009 8:02 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> More photos have been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1616 is a coin sorter WW

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 6:25 AM

1615. A crimping tool of some sort - possibly for crimping the bands
onto metal strapping tape or wire.
1616. Coin sorter.
1617. It doesn't make sense to have two different thicknesses on the
legs for any typical pulley and sheave setup. The thinner leg is
flattened so there probably is something affixed on both sides so it
can rotate. The setup appears to allow freedom of movement in three
dimensions. I'll fall back on the addage - "if you don't recognize
it, it's old and made of cast iron, it has something to do with a
carriage or wagon."
1618. At first I thought it was a hummingbird feeder, but on closer
examination I noticed I don't know what it is. ;) I've read about
those miracle magnets that magnetize your car's fuel line, and I think
this device screws on to a gas can, the little red plastic key has a
magnet and fits into that hole. When you pour gas it magnetizes the
fuel so squeamish people don't have to lift the hood and mess with the
motor thingy.
1619. A planishing hammer with face covers to protect the hopefully
mirror-smooth faces.
1620. An infinity meter from the 1940's. Infinity has gotten a lot
smaller with time due to entropy, so you don't see these so often
anymore.

R

Nn

Northe

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 1:33 PM

1620: combination ohmmeter and milliamp meter (the lower the current the
higher the resistance).

Northe

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 10:22 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
E Z Peaces <[email protected]> wrote:

> Andrew Erickson wrote:
>
> >
> > 1620 - An electric meter, which appears to directly measure amperage and
> > indirectly measure resistance (presumably by being put in series with
> > the resistance and a known voltage source). I'm guessing the voltage
> > used is around 120 volts or so, and the bottom scale is amps, and the
> > top scale is ohms. Probably, this would have been used primarily for
> > tasks along the lines of electric motor servicing and other fairly
> > heavy-duty uses. I'd us my Fluke over this most any day, I think.
> >
>
> It it reads ohms, the source impedance is probably 125 ohms. In that
> case, if it reads circuit amps simultaneously, the power supply would
> have to be above 3,125 V and the meter would have to dissipate more than
> 78kW.
>
> I think it reads milliamps, with a source voltage adjusted to 3.125 V.
> The supply could be 3 flashlight cells or a transformer.

Hmmm...I guess I wasn't thinking through my math very thoroughly in
coming up with the range. Seeing as how Rob mentioned in another post
that it was used for blasting, milliamps is far more likely, as you
suggest.

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 2:03 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> More photos have been posted on the web site:

My guesses this week:

1615 - This seems to be some sort of a specialized crimper or other
forming tool, presumably for fairly thick sheet metal. The two hooks
latch into or against some corresponding ears formed in whatever is
being crimped, and the two handles are then brought up to the middle and
the center plunger section does the deed. I can't say what it may be
used to bend, though; possibly some sort of metal strapping? Seamless
gutters?

1616 - Seems to be a sorter/tester for round disks, possibly coins or
washers, to sort them by diameter or thickness or weight or some such.
It looks very vaguely like some forms of electronic chip test module
handlers, although not intended for square or rectangular packages and
lacking a way of attaching the electronic test equipment itself.

1617 - Appears to be a pulley lacking the wheel. The uneven size may be
due to wear, but more likely due to specialized application--such as a
sliding door hanger, perhaps?

1618 - Birdfeeder (maybe specifically a hummingbird feeder)?

1619 - Beyond the obvious (a hammer with interchangeable faces), I don't
know what this might be used for. If I had to guess, I'd say either
leatherworking or (less likely) block printing.

1620 - An electric meter, which appears to directly measure amperage and
indirectly measure resistance (presumably by being put in series with
the resistance and a known voltage source). I'm guessing the voltage
used is around 120 volts or so, and the bottom scale is amps, and the
top scale is ohms. Probably, this would have been used primarily for
tasks along the lines of electric motor servicing and other fairly
heavy-duty uses. I'd us my Fluke over this most any day, I think.

Now to read other guesses.

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 7:58 PM


"Leo Lichtman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "RicodJour" wrote: 1620. An infinity meter from the 1940's. Infinity has
> gotten a lot
>> smaller with time due to entropy, so you don't see these so often
>> anymore.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> It's an ohm meter/DC voltmeter. Isn't it clever that ohm meters actually
> measure mhos, but are labeled in reciprocals (ohms)? Otherwise, you would
> have to keep a shunt on the meter to keep from pinning the needle. From
> the rugged looking and simple construction, I am guessing it is intended
> for use in something like blasting.


Excellent guess, it's a blasting galvanometer.

Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 8:09 PM

> Although they are probably the exact same hammers, #1619 is a
> coppersmith's planishing hammer called a spring faced hammer.
> The two bits are part of a spring face. It snaps over the head and softens
> the blows.
>
> In days of old, the copperwork was formed by hand with a hammer. This was
> used in one of a series of hammering steps to remove the hammer marks.
>
> Paul K. Dickman


I think this is probably correct, though I haven't been able to find one
like it on the web.

I did some searching and didn't see anything to verify any of the other
guesses for this hammer, but will be happy to take a look if someone can
find a good link.

Rob

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

15/05/2009 6:34 AM

>> 1618: Is used for dumping Mentos candies into a cola bottle.


Be Happy! Be very Happy!!

In all seriousness, we live in wonderful times. Our society is so rich,
secure and comfortable (as a whole and on the average) that we can afford
things like this.

This product is designed and well-manufactured, from amazingly cheap
material for the purpose of expending luxury food (candy and soda) for the
amusement of our younger generation.

I'm constantly awed and amazed by the technical progress of the recent
generations.

We live in the best of all times. This is not evil. It is good. Enjoy it!


PK

"Paul K. Dickman"

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

15/05/2009 10:13 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> Although they are probably the exact same hammers, #1619 is a
>> coppersmith's planishing hammer called a spring faced hammer.
>> The two bits are part of a spring face. It snaps over the head and
>> softens the blows.
>>
>> In days of old, the copperwork was formed by hand with a hammer. This was
>> used in one of a series of hammering steps to remove the hammer marks.
>>
>> Paul K. Dickman
>
>
> I think this is probably correct, though I haven't been able to find one
> like it on the web.
>
> I did some searching and didn't see anything to verify any of the other
> guesses for this hammer, but will be happy to take a look if someone can
> find a good link.
>
> Rob
>
I couldn't find a straight forward link, but below is a clip from "Art of
Coppersmithing " by John Fuller, 1911 courtesy of Google books.



When tinned and scoured it is ready for planishing, which is done on a
bright side stake, with a small spring-faced hammer, Fig. 127 - that is, a
hammer with an extra face of thin sheet steel, made and fitted as follows :
A piece of sheet steel, of a suitable thickness, in this case about 20
gauge, is cut, as shown in Fig. 128, the two ends turned up as in Fig. 129,
to fit the hammer-face, the lugs being placed in a line with the handle.
When fitted suitably lay between the hammer-face and the spring-face two or
three layers of French shal- loon, which answers as a cushion; now bind the
lugs with a stout piece of binding wire, and turn the points of the lugs
down on the wire in such a way that they will tend to draw the spring-face
close up and tight to the hammer. After polishing, it is ready for use. The
job must now be cleaned inside and out with a piece of nice soft rag, then
commencing close up to the wiring edge with the hammer, begin to planish and
follow each course around the body until the bottom is reached; then again
clean it inside and out, and planish it over again to smooth and finish it.

I also emailed a jpeg of the figures to you directly



Paul K. Dickman

CL

Cydrome Leader

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

15/05/2009 9:14 PM

In rec.crafts.metalworking Leo Lichtman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "RicodJour" wrote: 1620. An infinity meter from the 1940's. Infinity has
> gotten a lot
>> smaller with time due to entropy, so you don't see these so often
>> anymore.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> It's an ohm meter/DC voltmeter. Isn't it clever that ohm meters actually
> measure mhos, but are labeled in reciprocals (ohms)? Otherwise, you would
> have to keep a shunt on the meter to keep from pinning the needle. From the

Haha. good point.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

15/05/2009 5:22 PM


"
> I couldn't find a straight forward link, but below is a clip from "Art of
> Coppersmithing " by John Fuller, 1911 courtesy of Google books.
>
>
>
> When tinned and scoured it is ready for planishing, which is done on a
> bright side stake, with a small spring-faced hammer, Fig. 127 - that is, a
> hammer with an extra face of thin sheet steel, made and fitted as follows
> : A piece of sheet steel, of a suitable thickness, in this case about 20
> gauge, is cut, as shown in Fig. 128, the two ends turned up as in Fig.
> 129, to fit the hammer-face, the lugs being placed in a line with the
> handle. When fitted suitably lay between the hammer-face and the
> spring-face two or three layers of French shal- loon, which answers as a
> cushion; now bind the lugs with a stout piece of binding wire, and turn
> the points of the lugs down on the wire in such a way that they will tend
> to draw the spring-face close up and tight to the hammer. After polishing,
> it is ready for use. The job must now be cleaned inside and out with a
> piece of nice soft rag, then commencing close up to the wiring edge with
> the hammer, begin to planish and follow each course around the body until
> the bottom is reached; then again clean it inside and out, and planish it
> over again to smooth and finish it.
>
> I also emailed a jpeg of the figures to you directly
>
>
>
> Paul K. Dickman


Thanks! That answers all of the questions that I had about the hammer, I
passed this information on to the owner of it, he was happy to find out how
it was used.

The rest of the answers have been posted here:

http://answers284-s.blogspot.com/


Rob




BB

BQ340

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

21/05/2009 6:24 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> More photos have been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1622 is a flywheel holder (so it won't rotate as you remove the
bolt/nut/starter clutch from the crankshaft) for a small air-cooled engine.

MikeB

LL

"Leo Lichtman"

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

14/05/2009 9:20 AM


"RicodJour" wrote: 1620. An infinity meter from the 1940's. Infinity has
gotten a lot
> smaller with time due to entropy, so you don't see these so often
> anymore.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's an ohm meter/DC voltmeter. Isn't it clever that ohm meters actually
measure mhos, but are labeled in reciprocals (ohms)? Otherwise, you would
have to keep a shunt on the meter to keep from pinning the needle. From the
rugged looking and simple construction, I am guessing it is intended for use
in something like blasting.

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 14/05/2009 6:13 AM

15/05/2009 2:59 AM

On 2009-05-14, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> More photos have been posted on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

1615) Strange beastie. My guess is that it is intended to bend a
metal strap around something which the two ears hook under.

Perhaps for construction of a wagon?

1616) Coin sorting machine. You toss them into the hopper, and
it sorts the different coins into different bins, while counting
and totaling the amount (probably by coin size) on the display.

Not sure whether it retains them in the separate categories, or
dumps them into a single bag once done. Probably you can select
which behavior.

1617) This is the frame for supporting a pulley. A bolt through the
holes in the sides becomes the axle for the pulley.

Now -- I'm not quite sure what you mean by this sentence:

"Also, explain why the right end is wider than the left:"

If you mean the bulge before it reaches the support eye in the
second photo, I would say that is to clear flanges on the pulley
which are a bit wider than the hub length -- and to clear larger
rope or line sizes.

1618) Looks like something for sampling the contents of a tank or bin
from a threaded hole below a valve. (Such would be found on the
fuel tanks of smaller aircraft, which you are expected to check
for water in the fuel before you trust your life to it in the
air. :-)

However the cross-drilled holes and the tethered pin suggest
something more in the nature of bulk, with the pin preventing
the sample from falling into the container until the pin is
withdrawn.

1619) I note no size listed for this.

At a thought -- this may be some form of "planishing" hammer
(for producing a smooth level surface in sheet metal) with the
caps perhaps for providing alternate metal surfaces so you don't
contaminate the workpiece with other metals. (E.g. -- you don't
want stainless steel to be contaminated with mild steel, which
will provide a place for rust to start.

Check <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planishing> for a quick
overview.

1620) A lab bench meter for measuring low resistance values (hence
the reversed scale with infinity at the normal zero point). No
range switch and no multipliers so it is just for measuring low
values of resistance.

The second linear scale reading from left to right is probably
the base sensitivity of the meter movement. I would guess that
the "25" full scale is mA (milli Amps) not uA (micro Amps) which
seem a bit too sensitive for the construction.

Now to see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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