Ms

"Mark"

15/08/2004 1:03 PM

FS: Knight Infill Plane

For sale: Lightly-used Knight Infill with steel body (original body style)
and English Walnut infill, $350 + shipping firm. Inquiries should be
sent to smalltractorboy at yahoo.com (replace " at " with "@" when
responding).


This topic has 11 replies

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

17/08/2004 1:59 AM

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:04:44 -0400, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:ImSTc.7451$yh.5796@fed1read05...
>>
>> Mark why not try selling it on eBay? I can tell you how to do it if you
> need...
>
> eBay has become a haven for people bent on committing fraud!

Do you not check seller feedback ratings before you buy?

Ms

"Mark"

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

16/08/2004 2:04 PM


"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ImSTc.7451$yh.5796@fed1read05...
>
> > For sale: Lightly-used Knight Infill with steel body (original body
style)
> > and English Walnut infill, $350 + shipping firm. Inquiries should be
> > sent to smalltractorboy at yahoo.com (replace " at " with "@" when
> > responding).
>
>
> Mark why not try selling it on eBay? I can tell you how to do it if you
need...
>
> Alex
>
>

eBay has become a haven for people bent on committing fraud!

Ms

"Mark"

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

17/08/2004 10:22 PM

"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > eBay has become a haven for people bent on committing fraud!
>
> Do you not check seller feedback ratings before you buy?
>

It has nothing to do with the seller or the buyer on eBay. I have been
selling and purchasing on eBay for five and half years, but I quit using the
service a couple of months ago when I started to receive very official
looking, fraudulent e-mails asking me to cancel my PayPal payment and remit
it to a different address immediately after winning a bid. The scary thing
is that they not only had my name and e-mail address; they also knew that I
purchased items using "Buy it Now" on auctions in which the buyer must use
PayPal to secure the item. eBay and PayPal both have what looks to be
backdoors into their systems (or someone is running a data mining
application on raw packets traversing the net) because names and e-mail
addresses are not public knowledge on auctions. IMHO, there is has been a
serious breach of security in one or both of these organizations.



Ms

"Mark"

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

17/08/2004 10:29 PM


"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Do you not check seller feedback ratings before you buy?
>

I did a little research and found that the source of the breach was PayPal
(see:
http://www.shareholder.com/paypal/releaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=130960&Category=US).
If you did business with any of these merchants, then your eBay and PayPal
Identities have been compromised.

Ss

"Sparky"

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

18/08/2004 9:19 AM

"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:e9GUc.9998$yh.4323@fed1read05...
>
> I have received those fake emails! I forwarded one of them to Paypal. It
was
> easy to figure out. Any email where it asks you to fill an online form
with all
> your personal info, is deception from a thief! As far as fear of getting
ripped,
> just do further investigation with your buyer or seller.
>

I too received one of the e-mails requesting that I forward my PayPal
payment to a different address on a "Buy it Now" auction that required
immediate payment. The e-mail message looked authentic and the routing
headers were spoofed very well. Plus, the speed at which the message
arrived was truly amazing. There are most definitely people out there that
are mining listings that meet the above listed criteria, and comparing the
winner bidder names against data mined through fraudualent PayPal activity.
The people behind these scams have raised the bar. I too quit using eBay
and PayPal because life is too short to live in constant state of paranoia.

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

16/08/2004 5:24 PM


> eBay has become a haven for people bent on committing fraud!
>
>
I've been buying on eBay for years... only been ripped off once, recently,
on the purchase for a printer. But this person was an idiot and because of
me their membership was cancelled. If you're the one selling, how can you
get ripped off if you get the money you want for the plane? eBay is much
safer than you think, I buy all the time.

Alex

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

15/08/2004 4:30 PM


> For sale: Lightly-used Knight Infill with steel body (original body style)
> and English Walnut infill, $350 + shipping firm. Inquiries should be
> sent to smalltractorboy at yahoo.com (replace " at " with "@" when
> responding).


Mark why not try selling it on eBay? I can tell you how to do it if you need...

Alex

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

16/08/2004 12:32 PM

Ah, so you've been banned, right?

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http://www.billpounds.com


"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> >
>
> eBay has become a haven for people bent on committing fraud!
>
>

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

18/08/2004 3:26 AM


> I did a little research and found that the source of the breach was PayPal
> (see:
> http://www.shareholder.com/paypal/releaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=130960&Category=US).
> If you did business with any of these merchants, then your eBay and PayPal
> Identities have been compromised.
>
>
I have received those fake emails! I forwarded one of them to Paypal. It was
easy to figure out. Any email where it asks you to fill an online form with all
your personal info, is deception from a thief! As far as fear of getting ripped,
just do further investigation with your buyer or seller.

Alex

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

18/08/2004 7:22 AM

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 22:29:18 -0400, "Mark" <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>
>"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Do you not check seller feedback ratings before you buy?
>>
>
>I did a little research and found that the source of the breach was PayPal
>(see:
>http://www.shareholder.com/paypal/releaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=130960&Category=US).
>If you did business with any of these merchants, then your eBay and PayPal
>Identities have been compromised.

Any of WHAT merchants? The press release didn't say, Mark.
And the breach was when clueless merchants gave their ID
and Password through the spoofed email link even though
Paypal says (when you sign up) that they will never ask
you for your info via email. They also send email to us
to tell us of the spoofs and how not to fall for them.
What more could you ask?

Paypal is solid. (But I have a separate Paypal bank account,
JIC.)

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L

Layne <>

in reply to "Mark" on 15/08/2004 1:03 PM

16/08/2004 9:55 PM

I also have bought stuff on Ebay and so far so good. Whether buying
*or* selling I always check feedback. If you're worried some buyer
will stiff you on a winning bid you can post this disclaimer:

"I reserve the right to reject bids from bidders with negative
feeback. If you do have negative feedback and wish to bid inquire
first. Payment must be received within 10 days after auction ends or
item will be relisted and negative feedback posted."

One guy who had negative feedback and I allowed to bid was late in
paying for the item and I emailed him. Said he was waiting for his tax
refund check. I gave him an extension and he did pay, but he has
subsequently been banned from Ebay, but not by my doing.

Layne

On 17 Aug 2004 01:59:35 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:04:44 -0400, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> "AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:ImSTc.7451$yh.5796@fed1read05...
>>>
>>> Mark why not try selling it on eBay? I can tell you how to do it if you
>> need...
>>
>> eBay has become a haven for people bent on committing fraud!
>
>Do you not check seller feedback ratings before you buy?


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