The tale of TWO Lee Valley Parcels.

[email protected] wrote:

>
> Lee Valley being used as an example.
> My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail
> delivery via a Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
> His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
> Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same
> price for shipping.
> My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
> Valley order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee
> Valley package delivered right to his door.
>
> It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>
>

Suggest you take to the barricades.

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:15:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
>>>> than
>>>> through Canada Post.
>>>
>>>Not true. My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.
>>>
>> You may be confused.
>> Or you are in some area that Priority Post doesn't have their own
>> delivery.
>> I suspect you are confused.:)
>
>You suspect WRONG Read what you wrote. Read what I wrote. Very plain and
>simple facts.
>FACT: You made a dumb generalization. I called you on it.

Prediction: When [if] this sinks in, he will not be amused. He seems
to take himself and his "cause" way too seriously to laugh at himself.
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In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Lee Valley being used as an example.
> My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery via a
> Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
> His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
> Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price for
> shipping.
> My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee Valley
> order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
> delivered right to his door.
>
> It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>

You poor person. We all feel sorry for you.

This may help...

<http://www.balderstone.ca/stfu.jpg>

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other than
> through Canada Post.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've heard you.

Now. What do you want us to do about it? You've already established
that you don't want sympathy, or empathy, or a phone campaign to Robin
Lee, or anything in particular, you just want to bitch.

So now, you've bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

And bitched.

Now what? I still suggest: <http://www.balderstone.ca/stfu.jpg>

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Actually I was responding with explanation

Snort. That's *funny!*

No, you just bitched. And called people names.

And bitched. Over and over and over.

You're still doing it.

What, exactly, do you hope to accomplish with your whining, bitching
tale of how hard done by you are by Lee Valley and Canada Post? Why
don't you bitch and whine and complain to Lee Valley and Canada Post?

Why should any of us care about you or you concerns?

In article <[email protected]>, alexy
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Prediction: When [if] this sinks in, he will not be amused. He seems
> to take himself and his "cause" way too seriously to laugh at himself.

That's a pretty safe prediction, methinks.

In article <[email protected]>, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:

> No, this was a cost-saving measure on the part of the Post Office (at
> least in the US, can't say for Canada Post). Cluster boxes were being
> installed long before identity theft became a cause de' jour.

Same in Canada. As new subdiivisions spring up, home delivery goes
away. I believe parcel delivery still happens to the door if you
provide a street address.

Of course, if all you give the shipper is a PO Box, how are they
supposed to know where you live?

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Phone Priority Post and ask them.

<http://www.balderstone.ca/stfu.jpg>

In article <[email protected]>, Michael Daly
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On 9-Apr-2006, "william" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I mean i live 60 miles from Toronto ..and was delived by Canada Post.
>
> I live 40km from Toronto but was delivered by a doctor in a hospital.

Snort!

I live in Saskatoon but was delivered in Winnipeg. My daughte was
delivered in Langley, but both my sone and my wife were delivered here.

go figger.

In article <[email protected]>, Enoch
Root <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm talking about the policy of not delivering to PO boxes.

Canada Post will deliver to PO boxes... anything that will actually fit
in the PO box.

If you order something that won't fit in the PO box, where should they
put it?

On 4/9/2006 8:09 AM George mumbled something about the following:
> "George" <George@least> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Of course, whenever you set a limit, there's the guy whose box is two
>> steps beyond.
>>
>> I have one of those oversize mailboxes so I don't have to take the stupid
>> card 40 miles round trip to get most packages, only to find I've arrived
>> at the post office when the postmistress takes her break .
>
> Oh yes, on the subject of arbitrary, there is a post office two and one half
> miles from my house, but their delivery is north of a line a half mile south
> of their location. My mail is from one twenty miles or so further south....
>
>


Damn, you sure you don't live by me? The closest PO to me is about 3.5
miles, but my mail is delivered from the next county over from a PO that
is about 16 miles away. Not that I use the post office, as they will
deliver to my door (even going down my crazy driveway) any packages that
won't fit in the LARGE mailbox I have on the road.

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In article <[email protected]>, mac davis
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Must be the Canada Posts fault, Dave..

Must be.

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 05:06:24 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:15:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
>>>> than
>>>> through Canada Post.
>>>
>>>Not true. My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.
>>>
>> You may be confused.
>> Or you are in some area that Priority Post doesn't have their own
>> delivery.
>> I suspect you are confused.:)
>
>You suspect WRONG

No, I don't. You are confused.

I've received packages, from LV and also from an individual shipping
via Xpresspost; Canada Post leaves the boxes at my front door!

(I'm in a "super mailbox" area.)

- Daniel

> That is a call Canada Post can make IF they choose because there is no nearby
> Postal Station and home delivery is cost effective. You are one of the lucky
> ones, but in the minority at least here in BC.
> You could lose that service at any time.
> In fact if you phone Canada Post and ask they will tell you it's against
> policy.:)

I should have said that it's scary that Canada Post just leaves boxes
lying out in the open, on my porch, unattended. I would expect Canada
Post to be more careful esp with Xpresspost packages because they are
insured and CP would be liable for any losses. I for one would prefer
that my package be held at a local post office for pickup. Thankfully,
nothing has been stolen yet, as far as I know....

(Have you contacted LV and asked them to offer different shipping
methods for online orders? In your situation I can understand why
Canada Post is a poor shipping choice; mention your situation to LV
because they do listen to customer comments. Have you tried to
telephone an order in and request alternate shipping methods?)

- Daniel

You've obviously never had a REAL problem.

> My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.

Hmmm... Mine either, now that I think about it. In fact, I just had a
Veritas Medium Shoulder Plane delivered a few days ago (only a few days
after the order) and I've been more than pleased.

[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:15:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
> >> than
> >> through Canada Post.
> >
> >Not true. My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.
> >
> You may be confused.
> Or you are in some area that Priority Post doesn't have their own delivery.
> I suspect you are confused.:)

Extrapolating your experiences for an entire country...? It must be
interesting to have an obsession like postal delivery and be blessed
with omniscience. Weird, but interesting.

R

[email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:56:10 -0400, Doug Payne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On 07/04/2006 4:52 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
> >
> >Hey kid, give it a rest, we got it the first 24 times. You don't like
> >Canada Post.
>
> You sir are a moron.
> Learn to READ.

I ordered from Busy Bee in Toronto over the internet at 10:00Am
on a Monday and it was in my mail Box at the end of My driveway By 3;30
pm the next Day .. Canada Post
60 miles away ..

I mean i live 60 miles from Toronto ..and was delived by Canada Post.

George wrote:
>
> Moreover, it was meant to emphasize that government can (and does) make, and
> force its subjects to abide by the silliest of rules - because, just
> because.

Kind of like parents in that respect. "Because I'm the mom, that's
why!"

> Of course, whenever you set a limit, there's the guy whose box is two steps
> beyond.
>
> I have one of those oversize mailboxes so I don't have to take the stupid
> card 40 miles round trip to get most packages, only to find I've arrived at
> the post office when the postmistress takes her break .

If you want open spaces and clear skies, you'll usually give up some of
the conveniences of living in a more densely populated area. If you
want sushi at three in the morning, delivered, and a doorman to accept
packages for you at any time, there's always NYC.

R

[email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:10:39 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>
> >> Only Futureshop and Lee Valley use Canada Post.
> >> All my other 9 suppliers deliver right to my door.
> >> Until last year it was ONLY Lee Valley using Canadian Post.
> >
> >You're still full of crap. LV will deliver by UPS. So, why haven't you
> >called them yet to confirm UPS availability
>
> I ceased being a Lee Valley customer last year. If they have new methods of
> delivery I suggest they email that information to me. I checked the website, I
> see no method for avoiding Canada Post. It seems identical to last year.

So let's see what we have so far...
You've posted something like 100 posts on your tale of unspeakable woe
(shipping) so you're certainly obsessive/compulsive.
You don't like going outside/driving/shopping which points to
agoraphobia.
And you have a new one, you're scared to pick up the phone -
telephonophobia.

I'm sorry for calling you a troll. You're not. You're just a troubled
soul with a full complement of neuroses. Do you try to work on them or
do you just say, "That's me."?

R

<[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Only Futureshop and Lee Valley use Canada Post.
> All my other 9 suppliers deliver right to my door.
> Until last year it was ONLY Lee Valley using Canadian Post.

You're still full of crap. LV will deliver by UPS. So, why haven't you
called them yet to confirm UPS availability as I did three days ago? The
real answer is that you're simply trolling here for attention. Time to grow
up.

[email protected] wrote:

> My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee Valley
> order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
> delivered right to his door.

So why doesn't your friend get his parcels delivered to his neighbor's
house?

Chris

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 7 Apr 2006 14:26:36 -0700, "Daniel H" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>>>
> > But it's been many months since I quit as a Lee Valley customer.

And I doubt they have missed you!
If you don't like how a company does business, don't buy from them! Plain
and simple.
Tons of others have had excellent service from LV. Your rant is with the
postal service, not LV.
Greg

I have the same situation with UPS. The place where I drop parcels off is
only about 2 miles away in a good neighborhood. The place where I pick them
up is much further away in a 'less hospitable' locale.

I've taken to telling retailers that if their shipment is gonna require a
signature from UPS, then cancel my order. Seems to be working so far.
They've been shipping UPS but without the need for a signature.

Mark & Juanita wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:03:29 -0700, Enoch Root <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>George wrote:
>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lee Valley being used as an example.
>>>>My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
>>>>via a
>>>>Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
>>>>His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
>>>>Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
>>>>for
>>>>shipping.
>>>>My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
>>>>Valley
>>>>order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
>>>>delivered right to his door.
>>>>
>>>>It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn as
>>>you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just the
>>>rules.
>>>
>>>Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.
>>
>>Maybe not, if it's the credit card companies influencing policy.
>>
>>This is obviously to combat fraud.
>>
>
>
> No, this was a cost-saving measure on the part of the Post Office (at
> least in the US, can't say for Canada Post). Cluster boxes were being
> installed long before identity theft became a cause de' jour.

I'm talking about the policy of not delivering to PO boxes.

er
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:15:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
>> than
>> through Canada Post.
>
>Not true. My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.
>
You may be confused.
Or you are in some area that Priority Post doesn't have their own delivery.
I suspect you are confused.:)

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:22:34 -0400, Doug Payne <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 07/04/2006 5:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> You sir are a moron.
>> Learn to READ.
>
>
>That's, "Learn to READ, please.". Your mom's not gonna be pleased with you.

LOL!
Probably not. But this second class citizenship that comes with having a PO Box
as a mailing address is very frustrating.

Lee Valley....First class products - third rate delivery.

<>>> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
>>> than
>>> through Canada Post.
>>
>>Not true. My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.
>>
> You may be confused.
> Or you are in some area that Priority Post doesn't have their own
> delivery.
> I suspect you are confused.:)

Jimmy, you've got some set of balls to tell a man that he can't figure out
how something gets shipped to him and then to tell him he's wrong.

Now, I've got nothing to say about Canada Post as I've never used it, nor
have I had anything shipped TO me from the Great White North, but I will go
so far as to mention that it is, in fact, a REALLY big freakin' country
you've got up there and that it might not be the same everywhere.

As Andy Warhol might've said, "You've had your 15 minutes....sit down."

Mike

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Lee Valley being used as an example.
> My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
> via a
> Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
> His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
> Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
> for
> shipping.
> My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
> Valley
> order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
> delivered right to his door.
>
> It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>

So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn as
you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just the
rules.

Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn
>>> as
>>> you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just
>>> the
>>> rules.
>>>
>>> Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after
>>> all.
>>
>>Maybe not, if it's the credit card companies influencing policy.
>>
>>This is obviously to combat fraud.
>>
>
> No, this was a cost-saving measure on the part of the Post Office (at
> least in the US, can't say for Canada Post). Cluster boxes were being
> installed long before identity theft became a cause de' jour.
>

Moreover, it was meant to emphasize that government can (and does) make, and
force its subjects to abide by the silliest of rules - because, just
because.

Of course, whenever you set a limit, there's the guy whose box is two steps
beyond.

I have one of those oversize mailboxes so I don't have to take the stupid
card 40 miles round trip to get most packages, only to find I've arrived at
the post office when the postmistress takes her break .

"Michael Daly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> On 8-Apr-2006, "George" <George@least> wrote:
>
>> Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after
>> all.
>
> What on Earth do the business practices of a corporation have to do with
> socialism?
>

Open up. It's about "the rules," man. Canada post isn't a corporation any
more than USPS is, I'm sure. Imagine how much more arbitrary they could be
if they made other delivery services illegal.

That's socialism - state monopoly.

Clear now?

"George" <George@least> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Of course, whenever you set a limit, there's the guy whose box is two
> steps beyond.
>
> I have one of those oversize mailboxes so I don't have to take the stupid
> card 40 miles round trip to get most packages, only to find I've arrived
> at the post office when the postmistress takes her break .

Oh yes, on the subject of arbitrary, there is a post office two and one half
miles from my house, but their delivery is north of a line a half mile south
of their location. My mail is from one twenty miles or so further south....

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:45:41 GMT, Brian Henderson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:36:06 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>Probably not. But this second class citizenship that comes with having a
PO Box
> >>as a mailing address is very frustrating.
> >
> >Then here's a hint... don't have a PO box as a mailing address.
> >
> >Duh.
>
> DUH...It get's sent back as INVALID address.
> Been there done that with Futureshop.

The shear stupidity of your original post is that you cite all of these
experiences where you claim to have exhausted every way of receiving parcels
besides CP, only to be stymied. Yet - fully aware of your environment, you
felt it necessary to post a whining diatribe here about the misery of your
life, starting off with a whopping 6 mile drive to the post office.
Fellow - you're just a crank.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Lee Valley being used as an example.
> My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
> via a
> Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
> His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
> Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
> for
> shipping.
> My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
> Valley
> order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
> delivered right to his door.
>
> It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>

Yeah the Postal Service in the US has been going in this direction for
several years now. It sucks.

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:00:48 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Lee Valley being used as an example.
>> My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
>> via a
>> Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
>> His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
>> Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
>> for
>> shipping.
>> My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
>> Valley
>> order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
>> delivered right to his door.
>>
>> It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>>
>
>Yeah the Postal Service in the US has been going in this direction for
>several years now. It sucks.
>
The ONLY way to fight back is refuse to do business with companies that don't
offer the option of delivery to your door.
Lee Valley is one of them I'm afraid.

Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:


>In the US, they used to keep it in the back and put a card in your box.

In my PO, they have larger locker-type boxes. A key to a locker box is
put in the PO box when the parcel is too large. Like a coin-op luggage
locker, the key stays in the locker once it is opened.
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On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:09:26 -0700, "Frank Drackman" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Ouch

Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other than
through Canada Post.

"Enoch Root" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>Leon seems to be one of the few posters here with an ounce of common
sense.
> > Come on come on . . . I wouldn't go quite that far.
> >
> Well, he did agree with our Northern Postal Jihadist. That's saying
> something. :)

At this point, I'm guessing that Jimmy is somehow related to the dead
soldier troll. Not as militant maybe and more along the lines of a country
bumpkin cousin, but definitely an offshoot of the same clan. Guess we
couldn't be so lucky as to have all the single minded zealots live in the
US.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> Yes. No dice.
> Contrary to what Upscale has posted.
> But it's been many months since I quit as a Lee Valley customer.

Bullshit. You admitted that you haven't called them in several months. Even
after I called an LV store today to get information for you and gave you the
phone number, you still haven't called them to see of there's any new
shipping options available. All you're capable of doing is whining and
making feeble excuses as to why things aren't as you want them, yet you're
too lazy to do some following up to actually know for sure. Apparently, it's
more desirable for you to email dozens of messages over several hours
instead of spending a few minutes on the phone. What an ignorant wonder you
are. Pitiful at best.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
> >You're still full of crap. LV will deliver by UPS. So, why haven't you
> >called them yet to confirm UPS availability
>
> I ceased being a Lee Valley customer last year. If they have new methods
of
> delivery I suggest they email that information to me. I checked the
website, I
> see no method for avoiding Canada Post. It seems identical to last year.

So finally, we get some truth out of you. For some reason, you refuse to
pick up the phone and that puts the solution squarely in your court. You
obviously like LV's products if as you claim, you spent upwards of $1800.00
in recent years. Considering all the whining you've done here, wouldn't it
have been much simpler to spend five minutes on the phone?

But I know the answer to these questions. You want special treatment and
you're going to punish LV by spiting yourself until you get it. I've got to
admit, that's pretty funny.

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:43:04 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Michael Daly
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 9-Apr-2006, "william" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I mean i live 60 miles from Toronto ..and was delived by Canada Post.
>>
>> I live 40km from Toronto but was delivered by a doctor in a hospital.
>
>Snort!
>
>I live in Saskatoon but was delivered in Winnipeg. My daughte was
>delivered in Langley, but both my sone and my wife were delivered here.
>
>go figger.

Must be the Canada Posts fault, Dave.. *g*
Mac

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On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 14:44:43 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>experiences where you claim to have exhausted every way of receiving parcels
>besides CP

Only Futureshop and Lee Valley use Canada Post.
All my other 9 suppliers deliver right to my door.
Until last year it was ONLY Lee Valley using Canadian Post. Futureshop switched
to Canadian Post last year.
Another company where I spend a far bit of money. Probably $5000 in Futureshop
orders over 3 years. I have $2500 in Futureshop toys on my desk right now. Epson
Printer, Samsung 1100 21" monitor, computer, 2 160 gig external disk drives.
Can you imagine picking up a monitor this size from the post office. It weighs
over 80 pounds and I doubt the box would even fit in my car. It was thankfully
delivered to my door before Futureshop switched couriers.
My last order to Futureshop was last October and there will never be another.

If Futureshop did not have delivery to my door they wouldn't have got ANY of
that $5000. I will support any company that delivers to my door. I hate store
shopping or traveling miles to do it.

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:10:39 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Only Futureshop and Lee Valley use Canada Post.
>> All my other 9 suppliers deliver right to my door.
>> Until last year it was ONLY Lee Valley using Canadian Post.
>
>You're still full of crap. LV will deliver by UPS. So, why haven't you
>called them yet to confirm UPS availability

I ceased being a Lee Valley customer last year. If they have new methods of
delivery I suggest they email that information to me. I checked the website, I
see no method for avoiding Canada Post. It seems identical to last year.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:09:26 -0700, "Frank Drackman" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Ouch
>
> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
> than
> through Canada Post.

Jimmy, watch out for those windmills

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:36:06 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>Probably not. But this second class citizenship that comes with having a PO Box
>as a mailing address is very frustrating.

Then here's a hint... don't have a PO box as a mailing address.

Duh.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
> than
> through Canada Post.

Not true. My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.

On 9-Apr-2006, "George" <George@least> wrote:

> Canada post isn't a corporation any
> more than USPS is, I'm sure.

You may be sure, but you're wrong. Canada Post _is_ a corporation
and sets its policies independent of the government.

Companies make rules too. For example, Grizzly won't sell and ship
to Canadians. No government involved. Get over it.

Mike

George wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Lee Valley being used as an example.
>>My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
>>via a
>>Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
>>His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
>>Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
>>for
>>shipping.
>>My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
>>Valley
>>order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
>>delivered right to his door.
>>
>>It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>>
>
>
> So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn as
> you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just the
> rules.
>
> Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.

Maybe not, if it's the credit card companies influencing policy.

This is obviously to combat fraud.

er
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Connor Aston wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:39:59 -0600, Dave Balderstone
>><dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

>>>And bitched

>>Leon seems to be one of the few posters here with an ounce of common sense.

> Come on come on . . . I would'nt go quite that far.
>

Well, he did agree with our Northern Postal Jihadist. That's saying
something. :)

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On 9-Apr-2006, "william" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I mean i live 60 miles from Toronto ..and was delived by Canada Post.

I live 40km from Toronto but was delivered by a doctor in a hospital.

Mike

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> felt it necessary to post a whining diatribe here about the misery of your
> life, starting off with a whopping 6 mile drive to the post office.
> Fellow - you're just a crank.

Country roads, figure on at least 30 mph, you're talking about 12 minutes
there and another 12 minutes back. And if he works, it's likely he passes by
the post office regularly (although I find this unlikely considering the
time he's put into replying). Must live alone since the wife or kids aren't
able to visit the post office. So, it all comes down to this being his life,
complaining about Lee Valley and the post office.

Hey, everybody has some type of all consuming hobby.

[email protected] wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:00:14 -0400, Robatoy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> But it's been many months since I quit as a Lee Valley customer.
>>
>>Is that when you were hired by either Woodcraft or Lowe's to become
>>their rumour monger?
>
> I have never shopped at either.
> I probably never will.

Bet they're crushed!

Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Enoch
> Root <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm talking about the policy of not delivering to PO boxes.
>
> Canada Post will deliver to PO boxes... anything that will actually
> fit in the PO box.
>
> If you order something that won't fit in the PO box, where should they
> put it?
>

In the US, they used to keep it in the back and put a card in your box. I
think they still do, as I've seen folks in the post office going from a
box to the counter with what looks like the parcel card left for home
delivery. The regular on my route (suburb delivery to a cluster box) will
bring the parcel And the regular mail to my door and leave the parcel if
I'm not home. She's also a looker! I'd do more ordering online, but SWMBO
has already remarked on me chatting her up and now answers the door
around mail time, if she's home <G>.

[email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:15:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
>>> than
>>> through Canada Post.
>>
>>Not true. My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.
>>
>You may be confused.
>Or you are in some area that Priority Post doesn't have their own delivery.
>I suspect you are confused.:)

Actually, I think it is you who is confused, or awfully thick. Mine
have never come by Canada Post, either, probably for the same reason
that Ed's and Andy's haven't! And in the spirit of finding a helpful
resolution to this, if you will send me in advance the funds necessary
to purchase your item, plus twice the normal Lee Valley shipping
charge plus a 15% handling fee, I will be glad to place your order for
you, and ship via some method other than Canada Post.

Hopefully, with this solution available, you can get the LV items you
want, and can take your complaints about delivery to Canada Post,
where they belong.
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:53:00 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Mark & Juanita
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No, this was a cost-saving measure on the part of the Post Office (at
>> least in the US, can't say for Canada Post). Cluster boxes were being
>> installed long before identity theft became a cause de' jour.
>
>Same in Canada. As new subdiivisions spring up, home delivery goes
>away. I believe parcel delivery still happens to the door if you
>provide a street address.

Nope. I've tried that trick. Many of my neighbors as well.
In fact Futureshop even suggested trying it. Guess what, not only didn't I get
the package Canada Post returned it to Futureshop as no valid address.
It works sometimes in some areas, but it's against Canada Post policy.
Phone Priority Post and ask them.

On 7 Apr 2006 14:06:17 -0700, "Daniel H" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I've received packages, from LV and also from an individual shipping
>via Xpresspost; Canada Post leaves the boxes at my front door!
>
>(I'm in a "super mailbox" area.)
>
That is a call Canada Post can make IF they choose because there is no nearby
Postal Station and home delivery is cost effective. You are one of the lucky
ones, but in the minority at least here in BC.
You could lose that service at any time.
In fact if you phone Canada Post and ask they will tell you it's against
policy.:)

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:

> But it's been many months since I quit as a Lee Valley customer.

Is that when you were hired by either Woodcraft or Lowe's to become
their rumour monger? Is that going to be the only way you're going to
displace Lee Valley as the industry leader in quality and customer
service?

Good luck, buddy.. we see right through your feeble attempt.

WTF do you want us to do? "Oh gee, jimmy from the Wreck has an axe to
grind but doesn't want to pay Canada Post for shipping the stone, so I
best stop buying from Lee Valley?"

On 07/04/2006 4:52 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.

Hey kid, give it a rest, we got it the first 24 times. You don't like
Canada Post.

On 07/04/2006 5:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> You sir are a moron.
> Learn to READ.


That's, "Learn to READ, please.". Your mom's not gonna be pleased with you.

Well, the postal service is Modernizing throughout the developed world. My
mom lived in a 55+ community (at 90+) and had to travel about 1/4 mile to
pick up her mail at the clubhouse (where they had a bank of mail boxes).

The alternative is to raise the cost of a stamp, I suppose, to four or five
bucks to begin to cover the cost of sending millions of men and women out
into the world daily to drop junk mail in you home mailbox.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Lee Valley being used as an example.
> My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
> via a
> Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
> His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
> Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
> for
> shipping.
> My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
> Valley
> order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
> delivered right to his door.
>
> It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >
>> Yes. No dice.
>> Contrary to what Upscale has posted.
>> But it's been many months since I quit as a Lee Valley customer.
>
> Bullshit. You admitted that you haven't called them in several months.
> Even
> after I called an LV store today to get information for you and gave you
> the
> phone number, you still haven't called them to see of there's any new
> shipping options available. All you're capable of doing is whining and
> making feeble excuses as to why things aren't as you want them, yet you're
> too lazy to do some following up to actually know for sure. Apparently,
> it's
> more desirable for you to email dozens of messages over several hours
> instead of spending a few minutes on the phone. What an ignorant wonder
> you
> are. Pitiful at best.
>
>
Ouch, that has got to hurt. With 25 % of the precincts reporting it looks
like Jimmy is going down in flames.

Next contestant please.

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:39:59 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

>And bitched

Actually I was responding with explanation to morons, like I am with this post.
Leon seems to be one of the few posters here with an ounce of common sense.

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:00:14 -0400, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> But it's been many months since I quit as a Lee Valley customer.
>
>Is that when you were hired by either Woodcraft or Lowe's to become
>their rumour monger?

I have never shopped at either.
I probably never will.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:15:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
>>> than
>>> through Canada Post.
>>
>>Not true. My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.
>>
> You may be confused.
> Or you are in some area that Priority Post doesn't have their own
> delivery.
> I suspect you are confused.:)

You suspect WRONG Read what you wrote. Read what I wrote. Very plain and
simple facts.
FACT: You made a dumb generalization. I called you on it.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:43:58 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >
>> Yes. No dice.
>> Contrary to what Upscale has posted.
>> But it's been many months since I quit as a Lee Valley customer.
>
>Bullshit.

Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other than
through Canada Post.

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:45:41 GMT, Brian Henderson
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:36:06 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Probably not. But this second class citizenship that comes with having a PO Box
>>as a mailing address is very frustrating.
>
>Then here's a hint... don't have a PO box as a mailing address.
>
>Duh.

DUH...It get's sent back as INVALID address.
Been there done that with Futureshop.

On 7 Apr 2006 14:26:36 -0700, "Daniel H" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> That is a call Canada Post can make IF they choose because there is no nearby
>> Postal Station and home delivery is cost effective. You are one of the lucky
>> ones, but in the minority at least here in BC.
>> You could lose that service at any time.
>> In fact if you phone Canada Post and ask they will tell you it's against
>> policy.:)
>
>I should have said that it's scary that Canada Post just leaves boxes
>lying out in the open, on my porch, unattended. I would expect Canada
>Post to be more careful esp with Xpresspost packages because they are
>insured and CP would be liable for any losses. I for one would prefer
>that my package be held at a local post office for pickup. Thankfully,
>nothing has been stolen yet, as far as I know....
>
>(Have you contacted LV and asked them to offer different shipping
>methods for online orders? In your situation I can understand why
>Canada Post is a poor shipping choice; mention your situation to LV
>because they do listen to customer comments. Have you tried to
>telephone an order in and request alternate shipping methods?)
>
Yes. No dice.
Contrary to what Upscale has posted.
But it's been many months since I quit as a Lee Valley customer.

On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:33:52 GMT, "Michael Daly" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>On 8-Apr-2006, "George" <George@least> wrote:
>
>> Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.
>
>What on Earth do the business practices of a corporation have to do with
>socialism?
>
I always suspected Rob Lee might be a communist.
Selling all those tools for the 'workers' <bfg>

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:47:15 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:39:59 -0600, Dave Balderstone
><dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>>And bitched
>
>Actually I was responding with explanation to morons, like I am with this post.
>Leon seems to be one of the few posters here with an ounce of common sense.

Translation: "Leon sort of agrees with me"

Anyhow, if LV or other places offered same day delivery to your door and
expected you to pay for that service, you'd bitch about it not being free,
right?
Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:00:02 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:15:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Let me repeat: There is NO WAY to get a delivery from Lee Valley other
>>> than
>>> through Canada Post.
>>
>>Not true. My packages never come Canada Post. Nope, not one yet.
>>
>You may be confused.
>Or you are in some area that Priority Post doesn't have their own delivery.
>I suspect you are confused.:)

they must be, if they don't agree with you...

take your meds like a good boy, jimmy...
Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

On 8-Apr-2006, "George" <George@least> wrote:

> Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.

What on Earth do the business practices of a corporation have to do with
socialism?

Mike

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:56:10 -0400, Doug Payne <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 07/04/2006 4:52 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>
>Hey kid, give it a rest, we got it the first 24 times. You don't like
>Canada Post.

You sir are a moron.
Learn to READ.

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 12:03:29 -0700, Enoch Root <[email protected]>
wrote:

>George wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Lee Valley being used as an example.
>>>My friend in Kamloops lives in an upscale new subdivision. Mail delivery
>>>via a
>>>Super Mailbox at the end of the street.
>>>His neighbor behind him lives in an older neighborhood.
>>>Both order the identical parcel from Lee Valley. Both pay the same price
>>>for
>>>shipping.
>>>My friend has to drive 2 miles to a Postal Station and pick up his Lee
>>>Valley
>>>order, his neighbor just over the back fence get's his Lee Valley package
>>>delivered right to his door.
>>>
>>>It is like this for THOUSANDS of households in Canada.
>>>
>>
>>
>> So what you're saying is it's the government. No mystery. You'll learn as
>> you go along. The answer is - there's no good reason for it, it's just the
>> rules.
>>
>> Makes thinking folks wonder whether socialism is such a good idea after all.
>
>Maybe not, if it's the credit card companies influencing policy.
>
>This is obviously to combat fraud.
>

No, this was a cost-saving measure on the part of the Post Office (at
least in the US, can't say for Canada Post). Cluster boxes were being
installed long before identity theft became a cause de' jour.

>er


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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Come on come on . . . I would'nt go quite that far

[email protected] wrote
>On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:39:59 -0600, Dave Balderstone
><dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>>And bitched
>
>Leon seems to be one of the few posters here with an ounce of common sense


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