Barn -12'W x 20'L x 12'H Portable Building

geoff wrote:

> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And I'm
> unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a
> meaningful group has disintegrated.
>

Oh hell no - this is nothing compared to the real flame wars of the
internet. And - those can still be easily found on web forums, and every
place else. Nothing at all unique to usenet. What is killing usenet is
ISP's dropping the service as an offering to their subscribers, thinking
forums are the way of the future.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to
scroll through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's
what makes sense to me.

John S.

On 07/13/2012 12:36 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 7/13/12 11:46 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Watch out for this one, my antivirus says this has an attack.
>>
>> On 7/13/2012 12:09 PM, Susan wrote:
>>> Main cover and doors are madefrom long life UV Resistant, Fire
>>> Retardant Polyethylene with woven backing. All fabric components
>>> feature heat-welded seam construction. All Rhino Shelter instant
>>> garages have a special layer in between the outer and inner layers
>>> called the Inner Black Scrim. The Inner Black Scrim has a coating
>>> that blocks 100% sunlight from penetrating through the material.
>>> http://www.quickgarage.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=58
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> I don't know what worse, spam or top posting. :-p
>
>

"John Shear" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
> courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to scroll
> through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's what makes
> sense to me.
>
So you openly admit that you can' tell the difference between emails and
NEWS GROUP POSTS?

And you think it is OK to piss people off too?

But that is OK. It makes perfect sense to you.

"tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Get over the top posting thing already.
> Who the hell wants to scroll down to find the new text?
>
The people who want to follow the discussion.

And people who know how to work the scroll function on their reader. That
way you get where you need to in a hurry. And maintain the integrity of the
conversation. Theis particularly important if you get to the message late
in the conversation.

On 07/13/2012 01:31 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "John Shear" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
>> courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to
>> scroll through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's
>> what makes sense to me.
>>
> So you openly admit that you can' tell the difference between emails and
> NEWS GROUP POSTS?
>
> And you think it is OK to piss people off too?
>
> But that is OK. It makes perfect sense to you.

I had no idea it was such a big deal and some of you guys had to be
major jerks about it. I'll go back to lurking...

John S.

"John Shear" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> On 07/13/2012 01:31 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> "John Shear" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
>>> courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to
>>> scroll through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's
>>> what makes sense to me.
>>>
>> So you openly admit that you can' tell the difference between emails and
>> NEWS GROUP POSTS?
>>
>> And you think it is OK to piss people off too?
>>
>> But that is OK. It makes perfect sense to you.
>
> I had no idea it was such a big deal and some of you guys had to be major
> jerks about it. I'll go back to lurking...
>
I am pointing out how you make life difficult for others. I am pointing out
how to be CONSIDERATE. I am pointing out long established net and newsgroup
protocols.

And I am being a jerk?

Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And I’m
unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a meaningful
group has disintegrated.



"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...



"John Shear" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> On 07/13/2012 01:31 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> "John Shear" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
>>> courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to
>>> scroll through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's
>>> what makes sense to me.
>>>
>> So you openly admit that you can' tell the difference between emails and
>> NEWS GROUP POSTS?
>>
>> And you think it is OK to piss people off too?
>>
>> But that is OK. It makes perfect sense to you.
>
> I had no idea it was such a big deal and some of you guys had to be major
> jerks about it. I'll go back to lurking...
>
I am pointing out how you make life difficult for others. I am pointing out
how to be CONSIDERATE. I am pointing out long established net and newsgroup
protocols.

And I am being a jerk?

"geoff" babbled this bullshit...
> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And I’m
> unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a meaningful
> group has disintegrated.
>
Again, being considerate or observing basic courtesy rules is an ARGUMENT???

Logic is not your forte.

You must be lots of fun at parties. And, some how or another, we will
struggle on without you.

RE: Subject

You'll have to pull permits to take over the road.

12' wide can be a real problem.

DAMHIKT


--
Have fun


Lew

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>> On 7/13/2012 4:11 PM, geoff wrote:
>>> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And
>>> I’m unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a
>>> meaningful group has disintegrated.
>>
>>
>>
>> AMF!
>
>
> Gosh, I need to consult a dictionary to keep up with the lingo around
> here! ; )

Apparently, it is a drink.

1/2 oz Vodka
1/2 oz Rum
1/2 oz Tequila
1/2 oz Gin
1/2 oz Blue Curacao
2 oz Sour mix
2 oz 7-Up

After three of those, I would become slightly obnoxious and silly.

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:16:50 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Those with roots that precede, and coincide with, and who exhibited
>>the brain power to invent the Internet and its use (Al Gore excluded),
>>bottom post.
>>
>>Many of the Johnny-Come-Lately's, infamous for their willful ignorance
>>of the early concept of "netiquette" (published in RFC1855
>>guidelines), along with their ability to come up with all sorts of
>>silly justifications for doing so, top post.
>>
>>http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
>
> I have a fix for topposters, spammers, and Jesus Freaks: I plonk 'em.
> Quick, easy, clean, and done right _now_!
>

As long as they properly quote (Greater than signs on the left), it's not
a problem with a good Newsreader. I have mine set up to put the
quotation in smaller text than the reply, so it's really easy to see
what's new.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Mike <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 7/13/2012 5:47 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> place else. Nothing at all unique to usenet. What is killing usenet
>> is ISP's dropping the service as an offering to their subscribers,
>> thinking forums are the way of the future.
>>
>
> I believe it was more like, 'Hey, we can save a penny if we drop
> usenet.'.

Plus, it's "We can sell you on how we're "protecting the children!" by
keeping them away from the dangerous alt.* hierarchy."

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in news:5000de5d$0$1421
[email protected]:

> RE: Subject
>
> You'll have to pull permits to take over the road.
>
> 12' wide can be a real problem.
>
> DAMHIKT
>
>

In case anyone's interested, that's the standard lane width for most new
roads. Older roads might only have an 11' lane, and really old roads
might have a lane that's just slightly narrower than a Smart car is long.

If you're building something with the intent of taking it on the road,
keep this in mind. Another bonus tip: Just because your garage door
measures 10' and your shed base measures 10' doesn't mean you'll be able
to fit your shed base through the garage door. (A shop project in school
was to build a shed.)

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:43:43 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Apparently the inability to grasp the concept of "chronological order"
>(arrangement in order of time of occurrence) is simply another
>manifestation of the dumbing down of the culture ...

Dumbing down, maybe. Certainly too damned lazy to edit out the
unimportant stuff.

Puckdropper wrote:
> Mike <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 7/13/2012 5:47 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> place else. Nothing at all unique to usenet. What is killing
>>> usenet is ISP's dropping the service as an offering to their
>>> subscribers, thinking forums are the way of the future.
>>>
>>
>> I believe it was more like, 'Hey, we can save a penny if we drop
>> usenet.'.
>
> Plus, it's "We can sell you on how we're "protecting the children!" by
> keeping them away from the dangerous alt.* hierarchy."
>

Both comments above demonstrate a clear inability to understand what is
really going on within the ISP world, and prefer to post things that they
wish were true.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

John Shear wrote:

> I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
> courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to
> scroll through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's
> what makes sense to me.
>

The reasons for bottom posting are more of a legacy thing. In email, it
makes sense to top post and to keep an entire archive of previous
conversations intact, for the historic benefit of that. Historically,
usenet protocols encourages bottom posting, or posts intermixed in the
appropriate comments from a previous post, and all other irrelevant content
snipped. This kept the replies in context with a previous post, and
minimized content since all irrelevant material was snipped. Back in the
day of dial up connections, this was a much bigger issue than it is today
with Broadband.

Alas - it is still too easy to find people who both top and bottom post, who
will not snip irrelevant text. This might be more common among top posters
since they don't even notice the volume of comment beneath their own.

What makes things very difficult is when replies consist of both top and
bottom posting. That requires a reader to jump around through a post to
find what had originally been said, to determine the context of any given
post. That practice is just rude. But... then again, so is the practice of
not snipping irrelevant text.

Then there's the age old problem of a post with 100 lines of text, which
gets replied to with a simple "I agree" (or the modern day equivalent +1 or
some other such silliness...). That type of thing has long been frowned
upon within the usenet community.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On 7/13/2012 4:00 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:

> I am pointing out how you make life difficult for others. I am pointing
> out how to be CONSIDERATE. I am pointing out long established net and
> newsgroup protocols.
>
> And I am being a jerk?


A sign of political leanings? I mean, who is it who would possibly, when
tasked with listing the Presidents in chronological order, be tempted to
start with Barrack Obama?

Besides it being harder to say: "It's Butch's fault".

;)


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Last update: 4/15/2010
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http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

Watch out for this one, my antivirus says this has an attack.

On 7/13/2012 12:09 PM, Susan wrote:
> Main cover and doors are madefrom long life UV Resistant, Fire Retardant Polyethylene with woven backing. All fabric components feature heat-welded seam construction. All Rhino Shelter instant garages have a special layer in between the outer and inner layers called the Inner Black Scrim. The Inner Black Scrim has a coating that blocks 100% sunlight from penetrating through the material.
> http://www.quickgarage.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=58
>

On 7/13/2012 12:52 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

> Top or bottom posting depends on how many people and the topic being
> discussed so it depends on the situation and there are no absolute rules.

Those with roots that precede, and coincide with, and who exhibited the
brain power to invent the Internet and its use (Al Gore excluded),
bottom post.

Many of the Johnny-Come-Lately's, infamous for their willful ignorance
of the early concept of "netiquette" (published in RFC1855 guidelines),
along with their ability to come up with all sorts of silly
justifications for doing so, top post.

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt


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On 7/13/2012 4:11 PM, geoff wrote:

> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And
> I’m unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a
> meaningful group has disintegrated.

The absolute best solution for those too dense to use their Next key,
and/or flatly refuse to follow an accepted practice accepted long before
they got here.

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http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

John Shear <[email protected]> writes:
>I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
>courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to
>scroll through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's
>what makes sense to me.

Actually, one should edit the "pages of stuff" down to the relevent
bits, and intersperse the replies so that the relevent bits are
adjacent.

Top-posting was a microsoft invention that is quite annoying.

scott

On 7/13/2012 4:11 PM, geoff wrote:
> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And
> I’m unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a
> meaningful group has disintegrated.



AMF!

On 7/13/2012 1:34 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Get over the top posting thing already.
>> Who the hell wants to scroll down to find the new text?
>>
> The people who want to follow the discussion.
>
> And people who know how to work the scroll function on their reader.
> That way you get where you need to in a hurry. And maintain the
> integrity of the conversation. Theis particularly important if you get
> to the message late in the conversation.


Apparently the inability to grasp the concept of "chronological order"
(arrangement in order of time of occurrence) is simply another
manifestation of the dumbing down of the culture ...

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http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

tiredofspam wrote:

> Get over the top posting thing already.
> Who the hell wants to scroll down to find the new text?
>

One word - SNIP.

It is equally frustrating to scroll down through text to find the context of
a top posted reply.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:16:50 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 7/13/2012 12:52 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
>
>> Top or bottom posting depends on how many people and the topic being
>> discussed so it depends on the situation and there are no absolute rules.
>
>Those with roots that precede, and coincide with, and who exhibited the
>brain power to invent the Internet and its use (Al Gore excluded),
>bottom post.
>
>Many of the Johnny-Come-Lately's, infamous for their willful ignorance
>of the early concept of "netiquette" (published in RFC1855 guidelines),
>along with their ability to come up with all sorts of silly
>justifications for doing so, top post.
>
>http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt

I have a fix for topposters, spammers, and Jesus Freaks: I plonk 'em.
Quick, easy, clean, and done right _now_!

--
[Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
-- Fred Allen

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:36:01 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 7/13/2012 4:11 PM, geoff wrote:
>
>> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And
>> I’m unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a
>> meaningful group has disintegrated.
>
>The absolute best solution for those too dense to use their Next key,
>and/or flatly refuse to follow an accepted practice accepted long before
>they got here.

Over the years I've seen this debate many times. I've always found it
was just the best policy to adopt what seems to be the norm for the
group.

Mike M

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 09:14:03 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Being Usenet, not an office ... chronological order, in a parent/child
>relationship, of messages is the basis of the universal staple of
>message threads on UseNet.

You're wasting your time explaining Karl. If someone can't see the
simple logic behind posting in chronological order, then explaining it
to them isn't going to change anything.

On 7/13/2012 5:47 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:

> place else. Nothing at all unique to usenet. What is killing usenet is
> ISP's dropping the service as an offering to their subscribers, thinking
> forums are the way of the future.
>

I believe it was more like, 'Hey, we can save a penny if we drop usenet.'.

On 7/13/2012 12:46 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Watch out for this one, my antivirus says this has an attack.
>
> On 7/13/2012 12:09 PM, Susan wrote:
>> Main cover and doors are madefrom long life UV Resistant, Fire
>> Retardant Polyethylene with woven backing. All fabric components
>> feature heat-welded seam construction. All Rhino Shelter instant
>> garages have a special layer in between the outer and inner layers
>> called the Inner Black Scrim. The Inner Black Scrim has a coating
>> that blocks 100% sunlight from penetrating through the material.
>> http://www.quickgarage.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=58
>>
>>
>
Besides looks like an advertisement.

Since most of us dabble in wood working we would not be interested in a
plastic garage.

On 7/13/12 11:46 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Watch out for this one, my antivirus says this has an attack.
>
> On 7/13/2012 12:09 PM, Susan wrote:
>> Main cover and doors are madefrom long life UV Resistant, Fire
>> Retardant Polyethylene with woven backing. All fabric components
>> feature heat-welded seam construction. All Rhino Shelter instant
>> garages have a special layer in between the outer and inner layers
>> called the Inner Black Scrim. The Inner Black Scrim has a coating
>> that blocks 100% sunlight from penetrating through the material.
>> http://www.quickgarage.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=58
>>
>>

I don't know what worse, spam or top posting. :-p


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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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On 7/13/2012 1:36 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 7/13/12 11:46 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Watch out for this one, my antivirus says this has an attack.
>>
>> On 7/13/2012 12:09 PM, Susan wrote:
>>> Main cover and doors are madefrom long life UV Resistant, Fire
>>> Retardant Polyethylene with woven backing. All fabric components
>>> feature heat-welded seam construction. All Rhino Shelter instant
>>> garages have a special layer in between the outer and inner layers
>>> called the Inner Black Scrim. The Inner Black Scrim has a coating
>>> that blocks 100% sunlight from penetrating through the material.
>>> http://www.quickgarage.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=58
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> I don't know what worse, spam or top posting. :-p
>
>
Top posting depends on the topic being discussed. I frequently top post.
In these cases it is a long continuing conversation between a couple of
people, about the same topic and no drift.

By top posting the new material is on top so it can be quickly reviewed
for the response. On top there is no need to scroll through many
paragraphs to find the new material.

I can see the need for bottom posting for the reverse of the above. If
you are working with many people on a project, bottom posting make
sense, as while you are scrolling down through the past material you can
refresh yourself on what has happen or been done about the problem.

Top or bottom posting depends on how many people and the topic being
discussed so it depends on the situation and there are no absolute rules.

On 7/13/12 12:52 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 7/13/2012 1:36 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> I don't know what worse, spam or top posting. :-p
>>
>>
> Top posting depends on the topic being discussed. I frequently top post.
> In these cases it is a long continuing conversation between a couple of
> people, about the same topic and no drift.
>
> By top posting the new material is on top so it can be quickly reviewed
> for the response. On top there is no need to scroll through many
> paragraphs to find the new material.
>

That's what editing is for. Cut out the impertinent crap.


--

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On 7/13/12 1:07 PM, John Shear wrote:
> I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
> courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to
> scroll through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's
> what makes sense to me.
>
> John S.
>
> On 07/13/2012 12:36 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>
>> I don't know what worse, spam or top posting. :-p
>>
>>

We're not at your company, we're in a newsgroup which has a standard
etiquette that has been the same for about 15 years... which includes
bottom posting *and* editing out crap that is no longer relevant to the
discussion.

What's next, reading right to left because that's how you do it at your
synagogue? :-p


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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
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On 7/13/12 1:11 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Top-posting was a microsoft invention that is quite annoying.
>
> scott
>

Which explains a LOT!


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On 7/13/12 1:19 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Get over the top posting thing already.
> Who the hell wants to scroll down to find the new text?
>

No scrolling needed when you have the common courtesy to edit shit out
that no longer matters.


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-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
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[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On 7/13/12 4:11 PM, geoff wrote:
> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And
> I’m unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a
> meaningful group has disintegrated.
>

Goodbye. And they've been dead for more than 5 years... probably more
like 10.


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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:07:24 -0500, John Shear wrote:

> I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
> courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to
> scroll through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's
> what makes sense to me.

I suggest you, and others who top post, read the following:

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

But since it's a long RFC, below is the pertinent part:

"If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context. This will make
sure readers understand when they start to read your response.
Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a
response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context
helps everyone. But do not include the entire original!"

BTW, it wouldn't hurt all of us to read the entire RFC - I know it
reminded me of a few things :-).

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

On 7/13/2012 2:43 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 7/13/2012 1:34 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> "tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Get over the top posting thing already.
>>> Who the hell wants to scroll down to find the new text?
>>>
>> The people who want to follow the discussion.
>>
>> And people who know how to work the scroll function on their reader.
>> That way you get where you need to in a hurry. And maintain the
>> integrity of the conversation. Theis particularly important if you get
>> to the message late in the conversation.
>
>
> Apparently the inability to grasp the concept of "chronological order"
> (arrangement in order of time of occurrence) is simply another
> manifestation of the dumbing down of the culture ...
>
Have you ever worked in an office with many files, Some post newest
first other post newest last, I believe most I have worked in post the
newest first because most like when you need a file it will be the
newest, or near the front of the drawer so you do not have to dig.

Leon wrote:
> On 7/13/2012 4:11 PM, geoff wrote:
>> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And
>> I’m unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a
>> meaningful group has disintegrated.
>
>
>
> AMF!


Gosh, I need to consult a dictionary to keep up with the lingo around
here! ; )

On 7/13/2012 11:08 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:07:19 -0400, Keith Nuttle
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 7/13/2012 2:43 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 7/13/2012 1:34 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Get over the top posting thing already.
>>>>> Who the hell wants to scroll down to find the new text?
>>>>>
>>>> The people who want to follow the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> And people who know how to work the scroll function on their reader.
>>>> That way you get where you need to in a hurry. And maintain the
>>>> integrity of the conversation. Theis particularly important if you get
>>>> to the message late in the conversation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently the inability to grasp the concept of "chronological order"
>>> (arrangement in order of time of occurrence) is simply another
>>> manifestation of the dumbing down of the culture ...
>>>
>> Have you ever worked in an office with many files, Some post newest
>> first other post newest last, I believe most I have worked in post the
>> newest first because most like when you need a file it will be the
>> newest, or near the front of the drawer so you do not have to dig.
>
> Gee, I've always filed them under the client's name, alphabetically.
> Or by topic, also alpha.
> Ditto by computer, but that's an easy resort. ;)
>
> --
> Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
> -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
May be it is the nature of the business, we filed by lot number,
document number and and daily reports chronologically. Our audits were
filed by date, as you were most often dealing with the current audits.

Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:31:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/13/2012 4:11 PM, geoff wrote:
>>> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And
>>> I’m unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a
>>> meaningful group has disintegrated.
>>
>>
>>
>> AMF!
>
> A Mucking Foron? Or are you referring to bowling ball Sportsters?

At first, I thought he was talking about "bowling!". Then I consulted
the "urban dictionary" (very easy to locate).

>
> --
> Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
> -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
>

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:07:24 -0500, John Shear <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I don't know why you hate top-posting. In our company it's common
>courtesy to top-post when replying to email so people don't have to
>scroll through pages of stuff just to see a one-line reply. So that's
>what makes sense to me.

Yabbut, that's email. But try to add someone to the fiftieth email,
where everyone just topposts.

How much easier is it when people use interstitial posting? TONS!

Go ahead and toppost. But don't get mad when we all plonk you.

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:25:41 -0400, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:43:43 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Apparently the inability to grasp the concept of "chronological order"
>>(arrangement in order of time of occurrence) is simply another
>>manifestation of the dumbing down of the culture ...
>
Done.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:07:19 -0400, Keith Nuttle
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 7/13/2012 2:43 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 7/13/2012 1:34 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Get over the top posting thing already.
>>>> Who the hell wants to scroll down to find the new text?
>>>>
>>> The people who want to follow the discussion.
>>>
>>> And people who know how to work the scroll function on their reader.
>>> That way you get where you need to in a hurry. And maintain the
>>> integrity of the conversation. Theis particularly important if you get
>>> to the message late in the conversation.
>>
>>
>> Apparently the inability to grasp the concept of "chronological order"
>> (arrangement in order of time of occurrence) is simply another
>> manifestation of the dumbing down of the culture ...
>>
>Have you ever worked in an office with many files, Some post newest
>first other post newest last, I believe most I have worked in post the
>newest first because most like when you need a file it will be the
>newest, or near the front of the drawer so you do not have to dig.

Gee, I've always filed them under the client's name, alphabetically.
Or by topic, also alpha.
Ditto by computer, but that's an easy resort. ;)

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:18:26 -0500, John Shear <[email protected]>
>I had no idea it was such a big deal and some of you guys had to be
>major jerks about it. I'll go back to lurking...

Hey, that's an insult. We're not jerks. We're just a bunch of old
farts who are used to getting our way.

Get over the top posting thing already.
Who the hell wants to scroll down to find the new text?



On 7/13/2012 1:36 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 7/13/12 11:46 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Watch out for this one, my antivirus says this has an attack.
>>
>> On 7/13/2012 12:09 PM, Susan wrote:
>>> Main cover and doors are madefrom long life UV Resistant, Fire
>>> Retardant Polyethylene with woven backing. All fabric components
>>> feature heat-welded seam construction. All Rhino Shelter instant
>>> garages have a special layer in between the outer and inner layers
>>> called the Inner Black Scrim. The Inner Black Scrim has a coating
>>> that blocks 100% sunlight from penetrating through the material.
>>> http://www.quickgarage.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=58
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> I don't know what worse, spam or top posting. :-p
>
>

On 7/14/2012 8:12 AM, knuttle wrote:
> On 7/13/2012 11:08 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:07:19 -0400, Keith Nuttle
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/13/2012 2:43 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 7/13/2012 1:34 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Get over the top posting thing already.
>>>>>> Who the hell wants to scroll down to find the new text?
>>>>>>
>>>>> The people who want to follow the discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> And people who know how to work the scroll function on their reader.
>>>>> That way you get where you need to in a hurry. And maintain the
>>>>> integrity of the conversation. Theis particularly important if you
>>>>> get
>>>>> to the message late in the conversation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apparently the inability to grasp the concept of "chronological order"
>>>> (arrangement in order of time of occurrence) is simply another
>>>> manifestation of the dumbing down of the culture ...
>>>>
>>> Have you ever worked in an office with many files, Some post newest
>>> first other post newest last, I believe most I have worked in post the
>>> newest first because most like when you need a file it will be the
>>> newest, or near the front of the drawer so you do not have to dig.
>>
>> Gee, I've always filed them under the client's name, alphabetically.
>> Or by topic, also alpha.
>> Ditto by computer, but that's an easy resort. ;)
>>
>> --
>> Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
>> -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
>>
> May be it is the nature of the business, we filed by lot number,
> document number and and daily reports chronologically. Our audits were
> filed by date, as you were most often dealing with the current audits.

Being Usenet, not an office ... chronological order, in a parent/child
relationship, of messages is the basis of the universal staple of
message threads on UseNet.


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On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:31:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 7/13/2012 4:11 PM, geoff wrote:
>> Arguments like this BS are what is killing/killed the newsgroups. And
>> I’m unsubscribing from this one now, because any similarity to a
>> meaningful group has disintegrated.
>
>
>
>AMF!

A Mucking Foron? Or are you referring to bowling ball Sportsters?

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

On 7/13/2012 9:07 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 7/13/2012 2:43 PM, Swingman wrote:

>> Apparently the inability to grasp the concept of "chronological order"
>> (arrangement in order of time of occurrence) is simply another
>> manifestation of the dumbing down of the culture ...
>>
> Have you ever worked in an office with many files, Some post newest
> first other post newest last, I believe most I have worked in post the
> newest first because most like when you need a file it will be the
> newest, or near the front of the drawer so you do not have to dig.


Last time I looked, Dingleberry, or whatever his name is, doesn't
frequent the wRec. :)


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