I've got a 24 tooth Freud 7 1/4" blade with an 1/8" kerf that I've been
loath to replace because I cannot find another with similar
specifications... Is anyone aware of a blade of comparable or better quality
to this Freud that is available today? My DAGS and manufacturer site
searches have been fruitless but I may simply be missing the target...
My Freud is probably 25+ years old. Upon reading the "dead nuts" thread I
went to the shop and cleaned the blade to see how many carbides need to be
replaced if I get it sharpened. My best guess is 10 of the 24 would have to
be replaced due to chips... but it STILL cuts better than the various thin
kerf blades I have for the saw!
I've also got a 40 T Freud blade for that 7 1/4" saw but that is too fine
for dimension lumber. I tend to use my PC trim saw for sheet goods rather
than the bigger saw so the 40T Freud seldom gets used.
John
On Jun 24, 10:41=A0pm, "John Grossbohlin"
>
> I put on different blades if I know I'm getting into dirty or used lumber=
. I
> learned my lesson years ago when I picked up a scrap to cut some blocking
> and proceeded to saw through 6 10d nails... took the carbides right off t=
he
> blade!
First chip that broke off took all of the other chips with it.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 6/24/2012 9:41 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>
>> "MJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:117674b2-2723-4cd7-965f-2ada1cdada8c@nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>>> Did you check Forrest? They do sell 7 1/4 blades.
>>>
>>> http://www.forrestblades.com/hiat.htm
>>>
>>> It ain't cheap, but I'd imagine it will last a LONG time.
>>
>> I did check them already... 60 Tooth in either the WWI or the melamine
>> blades
>> and 30 T in the WWII. They are 3/32" "thin kerf" blades.... wish they
>> were 1/8"!
>>
>> I've got Forrest blades on my CMS and cabinet saw... they work. ;~) In
>> the
>> scheme of things the 7.25" WWII at about $70 probably costs less in
>> constant
>> dollars than I paid for the Freud blade 25+ years ago (around $35 as I
>> recall)
>> and if it lasts me 25 years it's a bargain.
>>
>> I put on different blades if I know I'm getting into dirty or used
>> lumber. I
>> learned my lesson years ago when I picked up a scrap to cut some blocking
>> and
>> proceeded to saw through 6 10d nails... took the carbides right off the
>> blade!
>>
>> I've not ruled the Forrest blade out... though I wish it were 1/8". They
>> do
>> seem over the top for a circular saw though don't they? ;~)
>>
>> John
>
> I don't think I've ever seen a 7-1/4" blade with a 1/8" kerf. I have an
> old top dog Freud that I use on my Skill 77 with a 3/32" kerf and it's as
> thick as I've ever seen in that size.
My old Freud is 1/8".... haven't seen another like it. With a good PC saw
the wide kerf has never been a problem and has probably helped more than not
due to the clearance. It works great in things like wet PT and wood that
"moves" as it has a lot of clearance, i.e., the sides of the carbide stick
out beyond the plate significantly. The plate is stiff too...
John
You know John, you could always get an outside blade of a 6" dado and
have them regrind it for you. It would be 1/8 although the number of
teeth might be off.
On 6/25/2012 5:34 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> "Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 6/24/2012 9:41 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>>
>>> "MJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:117674b2-2723-4cd7-965f-2ada1cdada8c@nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> Did you check Forrest? They do sell 7 1/4 blades.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.forrestblades.com/hiat.htm
>>>>
>>>> It ain't cheap, but I'd imagine it will last a LONG time.
>>>
>>> I did check them already... 60 Tooth in either the WWI or the
>>> melamine blades
>>> and 30 T in the WWII. They are 3/32" "thin kerf" blades.... wish they
>>> were 1/8"!
>>>
>>> I've got Forrest blades on my CMS and cabinet saw... they work. ;~)
>>> In the
>>> scheme of things the 7.25" WWII at about $70 probably costs less in
>>> constant
>>> dollars than I paid for the Freud blade 25+ years ago (around $35 as
>>> I recall)
>>> and if it lasts me 25 years it's a bargain.
>>>
>>> I put on different blades if I know I'm getting into dirty or used
>>> lumber. I
>>> learned my lesson years ago when I picked up a scrap to cut some
>>> blocking and
>>> proceeded to saw through 6 10d nails... took the carbides right off
>>> the blade!
>>>
>>> I've not ruled the Forrest blade out... though I wish it were 1/8".
>>> They do
>>> seem over the top for a circular saw though don't they? ;~)
>>>
>>> John
>>
>> I don't think I've ever seen a 7-1/4" blade with a 1/8" kerf. I have
>> an old top dog Freud that I use on my Skill 77 with a 3/32" kerf and
>> it's as thick as I've ever seen in that size.
>
> My old Freud is 1/8".... haven't seen another like it. With a good PC
> saw the wide kerf has never been a problem and has probably helped more
> than not due to the clearance. It works great in things like wet PT and
> wood that "moves" as it has a lot of clearance, i.e., the sides of the
> carbide stick out beyond the plate significantly. The plate is stiff too...
>
> John
>
>
>
"MJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:117674b2-2723-4cd7-965f-2ada1cdada8c@nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
> Did you check Forrest? They do sell 7 1/4 blades.
>
> http://www.forrestblades.com/hiat.htm
>
> It ain't cheap, but I'd imagine it will last a LONG time.
I did check them already... 60 Tooth in either the WWI or the melamine
blades and 30 T in the WWII. They are 3/32" "thin kerf" blades.... wish they
were 1/8"!
I've got Forrest blades on my CMS and cabinet saw... they work. ;~) In the
scheme of things the 7.25" WWII at about $70 probably costs less in
constant dollars than I paid for the Freud blade 25+ years ago (around $35
as I recall) and if it lasts me 25 years it's a bargain.
I put on different blades if I know I'm getting into dirty or used lumber. I
learned my lesson years ago when I picked up a scrap to cut some blocking
and proceeded to saw through 6 10d nails... took the carbides right off the
blade!
I've not ruled the Forrest blade out... though I wish it were 1/8". They do
seem over the top for a circular saw though don't they? ;~)
John
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 6/25/2012 4:34 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>
>> My old Freud is 1/8".... haven't seen another like it. With a good PC saw
>> the
>> wide kerf has never been a problem and has probably helped more than not
>> due to
>> the clearance. It works great in things like wet PT and wood that "moves"
>> as it
>> has a lot of clearance, i.e., the sides of the carbide stick out beyond
>> the
>> plate significantly. The plate is stiff too...
>
> The old Freud I have is a beautiful qualify blade, and haven't seen any
> other like it either. I wonder if ours are from the same era? The blade
> came with my Skil 77 when my Dad gave it to me about 12 years ago, and who
> knows how old it was then. Interestingly enough, I gave it a closer look
> and it has the words "thin kerf" on it, which implies that Freud must also
> have made a "regular kerf" blade during that time, likely in your 1/8"
> width.
Could be the same basic blade... I have never found one in that size that
was better... From our long term experiences, maybe they were too good? ;~)
John
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> I've got a 24 tooth Freud 7 1/4" blade with an 1/8" kerf that I've
>> been loath to replace because I cannot find another with similar
>> specifications... Is anyone aware of a blade of comparable or better
>> quality to this Freud that is available today? My DAGS and
>> manufacturer site searches have been fruitless but I may simply be
>> missing the target...
>
> You didn't say what grind.
>
> Grizzly has one close...G5459 Steelex 7-1/4" x 5/8" 24t ATB .120 Ripping
> Blade
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/category/165041
>
It's a general purpose framing blade.... dimension lumber and plywood/OSD.
The size and tooth count and my mention of dimension lumber and sheet goods
in the original message sort of positions it as such... ATB would be the
typical grind for such use. I also use the saw for cross-cutting rough cut
hardwood and softwood boards before rough dimensioning them on the bandsaw.
I paid about $35 for the Freud blade 25+ years ago. I'm having a difficult
time imaging that a $7 Chinese blade today would be comparable to the
Freud... plate thickness and trueness and carbide size and quality surely
vary.
Maybe I'll throw one on the next Grizzly order--added it to my Save for
Later list. I'm sure there will be another order soon as I'm in stock-up
mode for shaper items. This as I picked up a 3 HP Grizzly shaper recently to
replace my 1.5 HP closed stand Jet shaper.
John
"tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> You know John, you could always get an outside blade of a 6" dado and have
> them regrind it for you. It would be 1/8 although the number of teeth
> might be off.
>
I'm leaning toward the Forrest... pull the trigger and get it over with kind
of thing as I've spent too much time trying to find a duplicate of my old
Freud already! Then again... I could have the old Freud "rebuilt" by
Forrest. ;~)
John
John Grossbohlin wrote:
> I've got a 24 tooth Freud 7 1/4" blade with an 1/8" kerf that I've
> been loath to replace because I cannot find another with similar
> specifications... Is anyone aware of a blade of comparable or better
> quality to this Freud that is available today? My DAGS and
> manufacturer site searches have been fruitless but I may simply be
> missing the target...
You didn't say what grind.
Grizzly has one close...G5459 Steelex 7-1/4" x 5/8" 24t ATB .120 Ripping
Blade
http://www.grizzly.com/products/category/165041
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On 6/24/12 11:49 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>> I've got a 24 tooth Freud 7 1/4" blade with an 1/8" kerf that I've
>>> been loath to replace because I cannot find another with similar
>>> specifications... Is anyone aware of a blade of comparable or better
>>> quality to this Freud that is available today? My DAGS and
>>> manufacturer site searches have been fruitless but I may simply be
>>> missing the target...
>>
>> You didn't say what grind.
>>
>> Grizzly has one close...G5459 Steelex 7-1/4" x 5/8" 24t ATB .120
>> Ripping Blade
>> http://www.grizzly.com/products/category/165041
>>
>
> It's a general purpose framing blade.... dimension lumber and
> plywood/OSD. The size and tooth count and my mention of dimension lumber
> and sheet goods in the original message sort of positions it as such...
> ATB would be the typical grind for such use. I also use the saw for
> cross-cutting rough cut hardwood and softwood boards before rough
> dimensioning them on the bandsaw.
>
> I paid about $35 for the Freud blade 25+ years ago. I'm having a
> difficult time imaging that a $7 Chinese blade today would be comparable
> to the Freud... plate thickness and trueness and carbide size and
> quality surely vary.
>
> Maybe I'll throw one on the next Grizzly order--added it to my Save for
> Later list. I'm sure there will be another order soon as I'm in stock-up
> mode for shaper items. This as I picked up a 3 HP Grizzly shaper
> recently to replace my 1.5 HP closed stand Jet shaper.
>
> John
>
http://www.grizzly.com/products/H9352
You'd have to call them to find out for sure, but I suspect this blade
if pretty thick.
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On 6/24/2012 9:41 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> "MJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:117674b2-2723-4cd7-965f-2ada1cdada8c@nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>> Did you check Forrest? They do sell 7 1/4 blades.
>>
>> http://www.forrestblades.com/hiat.htm
>>
>> It ain't cheap, but I'd imagine it will last a LONG time.
>
> I did check them already... 60 Tooth in either the WWI or the melamine blades
> and 30 T in the WWII. They are 3/32" "thin kerf" blades.... wish they were 1/8"!
>
> I've got Forrest blades on my CMS and cabinet saw... they work. ;~) In the
> scheme of things the 7.25" WWII at about $70 probably costs less in constant
> dollars than I paid for the Freud blade 25+ years ago (around $35 as I recall)
> and if it lasts me 25 years it's a bargain.
>
> I put on different blades if I know I'm getting into dirty or used lumber. I
> learned my lesson years ago when I picked up a scrap to cut some blocking and
> proceeded to saw through 6 10d nails... took the carbides right off the blade!
>
> I've not ruled the Forrest blade out... though I wish it were 1/8". They do
> seem over the top for a circular saw though don't they? ;~)
>
> John
I don't think I've ever seen a 7-1/4" blade with a 1/8" kerf. I have an old
top dog Freud that I use on my Skill 77 with a 3/32" kerf and it's as thick as
I've ever seen in that size.
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On 6/25/2012 4:34 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> "Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 6/24/2012 9:41 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>>
>>> "MJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:117674b2-2723-4cd7-965f-2ada1cdada8c@nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Did you check Forrest? They do sell 7 1/4 blades.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.forrestblades.com/hiat.htm
>>>>
>>>> It ain't cheap, but I'd imagine it will last a LONG time.
>>>
>>> I did check them already... 60 Tooth in either the WWI or the melamine blades
>>> and 30 T in the WWII. They are 3/32" "thin kerf" blades.... wish they were
>>> 1/8"!
>>>
>>> I've got Forrest blades on my CMS and cabinet saw... they work. ;~) In the
>>> scheme of things the 7.25" WWII at about $70 probably costs less in constant
>>> dollars than I paid for the Freud blade 25+ years ago (around $35 as I recall)
>>> and if it lasts me 25 years it's a bargain.
>>>
>>> I put on different blades if I know I'm getting into dirty or used lumber. I
>>> learned my lesson years ago when I picked up a scrap to cut some blocking and
>>> proceeded to saw through 6 10d nails... took the carbides right off the blade!
>>>
>>> I've not ruled the Forrest blade out... though I wish it were 1/8". They do
>>> seem over the top for a circular saw though don't they? ;~)
>>>
>>> John
>>
>> I don't think I've ever seen a 7-1/4" blade with a 1/8" kerf. I have an old
>> top dog Freud that I use on my Skill 77 with a 3/32" kerf and it's as thick
>> as I've ever seen in that size.
>
> My old Freud is 1/8".... haven't seen another like it. With a good PC saw the
> wide kerf has never been a problem and has probably helped more than not due to
> the clearance. It works great in things like wet PT and wood that "moves" as it
> has a lot of clearance, i.e., the sides of the carbide stick out beyond the
> plate significantly. The plate is stiff too...
The old Freud I have is a beautiful qualify blade, and haven't seen any other
like it either. I wonder if ours are from the same era? The blade came with
my Skil 77 when my Dad gave it to me about 12 years ago, and who knows how old
it was then. Interestingly enough, I gave it a closer look and it has the
words "thin kerf" on it, which implies that Freud must also have made a
"regular kerf" blade during that time, likely in your 1/8" width.
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