jj

jtpr

23/06/2010 6:58 AM

Need some ideas on modifying an old Drill Press

I have an old Craftsman Drill Press ( http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
process.

The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.

Thanks,
Jim


This topic has 39 replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 9:32 PM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:27:38 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote the following:

>jtpr wrote:
>> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (
>> http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183 ). It a great tool
>> but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
>> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
>> shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
>> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
>> mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
>> process.
>
>1. Make a sizeable cam w/lever that you can clamp to column below the table.
>
>2. Bottle jack.

Uh, oh! Now you did it, DadiOH! "Bottle jack" my ass!

OK, so first you dig the pit for the table hydraulics and the
electical trench.

Then you install the 240v circuit to the patio.

Now install the hydraulic transmission lift in the pit and tie it in
to the Enerpac. Dig in and fasten your guide tubes for the adjustable
rectangular table and cement them in. Now install the perimeter
flooring supports.

Now run the ram up and down several times to get the feel of it. While
it's up, install the pit cover flooring. Now install your table on the
fully adjustable saddle.

There you are, a perfectly level, fully adjustable table with 3 legs:
2 guides and a ram. The guides and ram are centered under the table
to provide the maximum legroom.

Range is 5" to 42" for holding limbo sticks or stand-up drinkfests.
Cost is a mere $11,538.47 and can be installed in under a month.

Did I mention that I sell these units? Got my number?

Call now and receive an extra keyfob remote at no extra charge!

Get one for each member of your remote family!

--
Peace of mind is that mental condition in which you have accepted the worst.
-- Lin Yutang

JW

Just Wondering

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

29/06/2010 6:33 PM

On 6/23/2010 7:58 AM, jtpr wrote:
> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press ( http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
> ). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
> shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> process.
>
> The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

Could you just put an automotive scissors jack under the table?

c

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 9:35 PM


Christ, you are one whiney son of a bitch. The original poster had a
legitimate question and this your best? Who elected you the posting
police? Grow the fuck up.


On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:26:49 -0400, Upscale <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:25:21 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>There will be so many sock puppets disappear here this group will tic like a
>>clock when that account gets closed too.
>>
>>Crybaby.
>
>Thank you. You've aptly answered the question as to whether you're
>trolling or not. And, you're playing stupid is just as revealing.


--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: [email protected] ---

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

24/06/2010 5:26 PM

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

*snip*

> Range is 5" to 42" for holding limbo sticks or stand-up drinkfests.
> Cost is a mere $11,538.47 and can be installed in under a month.
>
> Did I mention that I sell these units? Got my number?
>
> Call now and receive an extra keyfob remote at no extra charge!
>
> Get one for each member of your remote family!

Ooh! A extra keyfob! I want one! Me Me Me! It's sooooooooooooooo
worth the $11,538.47 for the extra keyfob!

The OP could just use a forklift. Drive it up behind the drill press,
and lay a board across. Voila! Instant adjustable table.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

30/06/2010 1:03 PM


Just Wondering wrote:
>> Could you just put an automotive scissors jack under the table?

--------------------------------
"Stuart" wrote:
>
> I been looking for a way to arrange that too but it needs a lift
> travel of
> around 2'6"
--------------------------------
Two approaches come to mind.

1) A hydraulic jack and a series of interlocking shoring blocks that
are about 4"-6" tall or whatever the jack stroke is.

A little slow but it will get the job done.

2) An automotive bumper jack (AKA: Suicide jack), the kind that hooked
on the fender.
Basically a screw jack that is maybe 30" long.

#1 would be safer IMHO.

Lew

jj

jtpr

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

16/08/2010 2:05 PM

On Jun 24, 6:59=A0pm, "Kevin(Bluey)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 6/23/2010 11:28 PM, jtpr wrote:
>
> > I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/det=
ail.aspx?id=3D183
> > ). =A0It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> > and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
> > shaft. =A0This is cumbersome at best. =A0So, I wanted to see if anybody
> > had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> > mechanically. =A0I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> > process.
>
> > The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
>
> This seems to be a good Idea ,probably easy to make your self.
>
> http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/easyriser.htm
>
> --
> Kevin (Bluey)
> "I'm not young enough to know everything."
>
> [email protected]

Thanks all.

I did come up with an idea, abeit a slow process. I took a piece of
pipe with a flange on the top that will go under the table. Then I
run a threaded rod inside of it. On the bottom of the threaded rod I
put a washer larger then the OD of the pipe and a nut below it. I
mount the bottom of the threaded rod to a 4x4 to raise it up. By
running the nut up and down the threaded rod I lift the pipe and table
up and down. Now if I could just find a very course thread rod and
nut.

-Jim

Uu

Upscale

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 12:19 PM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:04:02 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>As the group knows (except the troll's twelve sock puppets profess) this was
>not my post.
>
>Somebody got his itsy bitsy feelings hurt when I disagreed...LOL

Obviously, the biggest problem here is your complete inability to
comprehend what top posting is or you're just looking to irritate
people. Either way, all you're really doing it developing a reputation
for trolling.

SS

Stuart

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

30/06/2010 8:23 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Kevin(Bluey) <[email protected]> wrote:
> This seems to be a good Idea ,probably easy to make your self.

> http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/easyriser.htm

I was reading this thread for an answer to the same problem.

However the above is useless because:
1) Mine has a solid 2.3/4"diameter column
2) That weight looks no where near heavy enough. Especially with the large
compound table and 6" machine vice on top.

Drill press is a very old "Progress" floor stander I picked up on ebay for 56
quid.

SS

Stuart

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

30/06/2010 8:26 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Just Wondering <[email protected]> wrote:
> Could you just put an automotive scissors jack under the table?

I been looking for a way to arrange that too but it needs a lift travel of
around 2'6"

SS

Stuart

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

01/07/2010 9:16 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
CW <[email protected]> wrote:

> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...

> >>
> > A wimsheild wiper motor geared (chain drive) to the handcrank rack
> > and pinion originally installed.

> The lack of rack and pinion is the problem. Many drill presses used to
> be made its way.

Indeed and that is the problem.

SS

Stuart

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

17/08/2010 10:16 AM

In article
<4ea7471b-188d-4c6e-b8ae-e3ef922f1bef@q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
jtpr <[email protected]> wrote:
> I did come up with an idea, abeit a slow process. I took a piece of
> pipe with a flange on the top that will go under the table. Then I
> run a threaded rod inside of it. On the bottom of the threaded rod I
> put a washer larger then the OD of the pipe and a nut below it. I
> mount the bottom of the threaded rod to a 4x4 to raise it up. By
> running the nut up and down the threaded rod I lift the pipe and table
> up and down. Now if I could just find a very course thread rod and
> nut.

The easyriser is useless to me because my drill has a 2-3/4" D /solid/
column and that weight doesn't look heavy enough but your suggestion has
given me an idea. I wonder if something like this:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/york-york-tail-vice-screw-prod22373/

could be modified in some way to work

jj

jtpr

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 6:59 AM

On Jun 23, 9:58=A0am, jtpr <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detai=
l.aspx?id=3D183
> ). =A0It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
> shaft. =A0This is cumbersome at best. =A0So, I wanted to see if anybody
> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> mechanically. =A0I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> process.
>
> The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

Oh, that link is just an example, that particular one isn't my drill.

-Jim

bb

basilisk

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

16/08/2010 4:31 PM

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:05:29 -0700 (PDT), jtpr wrote:

> On Jun 24, 6:59 pm, "Kevin(Bluey)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 6/23/2010 11:28 PM, jtpr wrote:
>>
>>> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
>>> ).  It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
>>> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
>>> shaft.  This is cumbersome at best.  So, I wanted to see if anybody
>>> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
>>> mechanically.  I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
>>> process.
>>
>>> The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>
>> This seems to be a good Idea ,probably easy to make your self.
>>
>> http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/easyriser.htm
>>
>> --
>> Kevin (Bluey)
>> "I'm not young enough to know everything."
>>
>> [email protected]
>
> Thanks all.
>
> I did come up with an idea, abeit a slow process. I took a piece of
> pipe with a flange on the top that will go under the table. Then I
> run a threaded rod inside of it. On the bottom of the threaded rod I
> put a washer larger then the OD of the pipe and a nut below it. I
> mount the bottom of the threaded rod to a 4x4 to raise it up. By
> running the nut up and down the threaded rod I lift the pipe and table
> up and down. Now if I could just find a very course thread rod and
> nut.
>
> -Jim

http://www.wttool.com/product-exec/product_id/11482/nm/Acme_Threaded_Rod

basilisk

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 12:27 PM

jtpr wrote:
> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (
> http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183 ). It a great tool
> but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
> shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> process.

1. Make a sizeable cam w/lever that you can clamp to column below the table.

2. Bottle jack.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 6:22 PM

My apologies for any mixup in what is what.
I have been very very bad for a very long time
losing all sense of what is right and wrong.
In fact I do think I am quite insane, actually.
These look like my headers but are not my posts.

Some can't take me well...I guess **SIGH**



<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Christ, you are one whiney son of a bitch. The original poster had a
legitimate question and this your best? Who elected you the posting
police? Grow the fuck up.



SQ

"Stephen Quinn"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 10:55 PM

Jim

http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/easyriser.htm

HTH
Steve

Kb

"Kevin(Bluey)"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

25/06/2010 8:29 AM

On 6/23/2010 11:28 PM, jtpr wrote:
> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press ( http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
> ). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
> shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> process.
>
> The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim


This seems to be a good Idea ,probably easy to make your self.

http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/easyriser.htm

--
Kevin (Bluey)
"I'm not young enough to know everything."

[email protected]

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 10:06 AM

Sorry about my first effort.
As you can read I have not a bit of brain between my
ears. What I believe changes with each injection of drugs.
You need help?
I need it more than anyone!

Read my history and send alms!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.solar.photovoltaic/msg/a57dda4e6757f15c?hl=en

_____________________________________________________________________
"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8dd0f79e-eba4-4c61-9dec-a1ee7ac777c9@x27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (
http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
process.

The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.

Thanks,
Jim




JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 5:53 PM

My apologies for the clone attacks here.
These look like my headers but are not my posts.

Some can't take disagreement...I guess **SIGH**



<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Christ, you are one whiney son of a bitch. The original poster had a
legitimate question and this your best? Who elected you the posting
police? Grow the fuck up.



JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 12:25 PM

There will be so many sock puppets disappear here this group will tic like a
clock when that account gets closed too.

Crybaby.


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Obviously, the biggest problem here is your complete inability to
comprehend what top posting is or you're just looking to irritate
people. Either way, all you're really doing it developing a reputation
for trolling.


On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:04:02 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>As the group knows (except the troll's twelve sock puppets profess) this
>was
>not my post.
>
>Somebody got his itsy bitsy feelings hurt when I disagreed...LOL


JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 12:04 PM

As the group knows (except the troll's twelve sock puppets profess) this was
not my post.

Somebody got his itsy bitsy feelings hurt when I disagreed...LOL

Since the troll modifies the headers to match most of mine readers will have
to look for content and just ignore attack style garbage from this Usenet
terrorist. He frequents many groups and attempts to bring them to a
standstill.

Thanks for all your understanding and co-operation. You too Wayne, Taz,
hopper, LectronNuisance, daestrom etc..



"Josepi" <[email protected]> **clone** wrote in message
news:OEoUn.30836$%[email protected]...
Sorry about my first effort.
As you can read I have not a bit of brain between my
ears. What I believe changes with each injection of drugs.
You need help?
I need it more than anyone!

Read my history and send alms!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.solar.photovoltaic/msg/a57dda4e6757f15c?hl=en

_____________________________________________________________________
"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8dd0f79e-eba4-4c61-9dec-a1ee7ac777c9@x27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (
http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
process.

The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.

Thanks,
Jim





Rr

RonB

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

24/06/2010 4:29 PM

On Jun 23, 1:13=A0pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
> jtpr wrote:
> > I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/det=
ail.aspx?id=3D183
> > ). =A0It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> > and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
> > shaft. =A0This is cumbersome at best. =A0So, I wanted to see if anybody
> > had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> > mechanically. =A0I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> > process.
>
> > The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
>
> There was a guy here some years ago that built a contraption with 3
> pulleys, some cable, and a bungee cord. =A0I can't remember who it was or
> where to find the photo that he supplied. =A0Any way here's a description
> (?): =A0Anchor the cable to the table (in back of the post), run it up to
> a pulley on the drill press bracket, then down to another pulley on the
> base, up to another pulley on the motor bracket, then down to attach the
> bungee cord which is attached to the base. =A0Clear? =A0:-)
>
> I have a 103.23171 model and built one of these things. =A0It does not
> replace a crank but it helps.
>
> If you have specific questions, email me by removing the mahalo.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 mahalo,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 jo4hn

That was probably me and I posted pictures on the binaries woodworking
site too. That worked pretty well until I put a heavy woodworking
table on the drill press then it go hard to handle again. Also the
bungees stretch over time making periodic replacement necessary.

I saw a separate post with pictures of a solution using a simple
trailer tongue jack. The fellow mounted the jack beneath the table on
a block that put the jacing range within the usual adjustment range
for the table. He also kept a second block near by for higher
adjustments. This gets you closer to the ease of a cranking table
adjustment and it won't drop if you let go.

RonB

ww

whit3rd

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 11:42 AM

On Jun 23, 6:58=A0am, jtpr <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detai=
l.aspx?id=3D183
> ). =A0It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down

Maybe a primitive jack? Put a sliding collar below the casting, to
take the thrust;
engage the collar with a fork, tines going into a ladder-like rack.
Loosen the
table, and lever it up or down with the fork. Tighten the table to
reposition
the fork to the next rack position...

One can also use a DC gearmotor with a threaded rod; the gearmotor
output, instead of a shaft coupling, is a nut that moves the threaded
rod up and down. It's a tad slow, though.

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 6:21 PM

I am getting really confused with all these voices.
Phoney headers and text from me again.
Is there anyone who cares to help me!
Am I the only looser sunvabeetch posting!



"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

YOU fucking MORON.

Poor baby, not so comfortable with being frogged
you dribling pathetic excuse for a waste of fucking
good oxygen.
Do tell just how you are going to close an account
by complaint where the provider has only just booted
your sorry ass from the server.
And tell why.
Would not be for posting forgery of peoples posts
now would that be the case? LOL



____________________________________________________
"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<XzqUn.30840$%[email protected]>...
There will be so many sock puppets disappear here this group will tic like a
clock when that account gets closed too.

Crybaby.


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Obviously, the biggest problem here is your complete inability to
comprehend what top posting is or you're just looking to irritate
people. Either way, all you're really doing it developing a reputation
for trolling.


On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:04:02 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>As the group knows (except the troll's twelve sock puppets profess) this
>was
>not my post.
>
>Somebody got his itsy bitsy feelings hurt when I disagreed...LOL







Uu

Upscale

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 12:26 PM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:25:21 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>There will be so many sock puppets disappear here this group will tic like a
>clock when that account gets closed too.
>
>Crybaby.

Thank you. You've aptly answered the question as to whether you're
trolling or not. And, you're playing stupid is just as revealing.

c

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

17/08/2010 10:08 PM

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:16:15 +0100, Stuart <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article
><4ea7471b-188d-4c6e-b8ae-e3ef922f1bef@q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> jtpr <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I did come up with an idea, abeit a slow process. I took a piece of
>> pipe with a flange on the top that will go under the table. Then I
>> run a threaded rod inside of it. On the bottom of the threaded rod I
>> put a washer larger then the OD of the pipe and a nut below it. I
>> mount the bottom of the threaded rod to a 4x4 to raise it up. By
>> running the nut up and down the threaded rod I lift the pipe and table
>> up and down. Now if I could just find a very course thread rod and
>> nut.
>
>The easyriser is useless to me because my drill has a 2-3/4" D /solid/
>column and that weight doesn't look heavy enough but your suggestion has
>given me an idea. I wonder if something like this:
>
>http://www.axminster.co.uk/york-york-tail-vice-screw-prod22373/
>
>could be modified in some way to work

Put a boat winch on the top of the prill-press post and hook the cable
to the table - or better yet put the winch at the bottom, and a pulley
at the top.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

30/06/2010 8:38 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>>
> A wimsheild wiper motor geared (chain drive) to the handcrank rack
> and pinion originally installed.

The lack of rack and pinion is the problem. Many drill presses used to be
made its way.

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 10:00 AM

Perhaps replacement parts for a similar size in a Delta or other cheap
brand unit to replace the table, with crank and gear rack?

I believe the gear rack is set into a key on the back of the shaft though.


"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (
http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
process.

The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.

Thanks,
Jim

dn

dpb

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 12:38 PM

dadiOH wrote:
> jtpr wrote:
>> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (
>> http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183 ). It a great tool
>> but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
>> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
>> shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
>> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
>> mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
>> process.
>
> 1. Make a sizeable cam w/lever that you can clamp to column below the table.
>
> 2. Bottle jack.

3. Mount table; place base on lift... :)

--

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 1:15 PM


"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8dd0f79e-eba4-4c61-9dec-a1ee7ac777c9@x27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (
http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
> ). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
> shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> process.
>
> The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

Attach a cable to the table and run it over a pulley attached
under the drill head to a counterweight behind the post.
Art

N

in reply to "Artemus" on 23/06/2010 1:15 PM

24/06/2010 9:05 PM

> "jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:8dd0f79e-eba4-4c61-9dec-a1ee7ac777c9@x27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (
> http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
> > ). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> > and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
> > shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
> > had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> > mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> > process.
> >
> > The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim

Hi, Jim,

Make a collar from, say, 1"x1/8" mild steel stock that fits around the top of the column.
Use a thumbscrew to tighten it so you can swing it round if you need to. Attach a length
of bike chain to the collar. Weld/braze/silver solder a derailleur sprocket to a shaft.
Make up a yoke that attaches to the drill table. Mount the sprocket inside the yoke. Pin
a crank or handwheel to the end of the shaft.

The tidiest way would be with the chain lying flat against the column but you might have
to extend the sprocket shaft a ways in order to clear the table or clamp. Alternatively,
hang the chain with the rivets radial to the column and mount your yoke to the side of
the table clamp. You'll need a guide inside the yoke to hold the chain against the
sprocket, and a smooth outflow so the chain doesn't hang up when you're lowering the
table.

Good luck!

Nemo

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"DanG"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

25/06/2010 11:32 PM

I had a Rockwell that had the same problem. I installed a pulley
back at the motor above the table clamp's back bolt. I used a
piece of wire rope fastened to the bolt on the back of the table
clamp, over the pulley, to a piece of pvc pipe (4" as I recall)
that I filled with melted wheel weights. Play around with
quantity of lead until you find a reasonable counterbalance to the
weight of the table. I had made a large table top with built in
"rip guide" so it took a lot of weight. It worked fairly well,
but when I replaced the dp I made sure I did get a crank up table
set up.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
Keep the whole world singing . . .


"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8dd0f79e-eba4-4c61-9dec-a1ee7ac777c9@x27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>I have an old Craftsman Drill Press (
>http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
> ). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to
> raise
> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and
> down the
> shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if
> anybody
> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> process.
>
> The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

kk

knuttle

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

16/08/2010 6:52 PM

On 8/16/2010 5:05 PM, jtpr wrote:
> Now if I could just find a very course thread rod and
> nut.
>
Have you tried your local hardware store or big box store. They have
several sizes of rod with thread sizes nearly the same as pipe thread.

Uu

Upscale

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 12:24 PM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:04:02 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Since the troll modifies the headers to match most of mine readers will have
>to look for content and just ignore attack style garbage from this Usenet
>terrorist. He frequents many groups and attempts to bring them to a
>standstill.

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By the way, all your headers are exactly the same barring a few
inconsequential differences.

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 3:50 PM


LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

YOU fucking MORON.

Poor baby, not so comfortable with being frogged
you dribling pathetic excuse for a waste of fucking
good oxygen.
Do tell just how you are going to close an account
by complaint where the provider has only just booted
your sorry ass from the server.
And tell why.
Would not be for posting forgery of peoples posts
now would that be the case? LOL



____________________________________________________
"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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There will be so many sock puppets disappear here this group will tic like a
clock when that account gets closed too.

Crybaby.


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Obviously, the biggest problem here is your complete inability to
comprehend what top posting is or you're just looking to irritate
people. Either way, all you're really doing it developing a reputation
for trolling.


On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:04:02 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>As the group knows (except the troll's twelve sock puppets profess) this
>was
>not my post.
>
>Somebody got his itsy bitsy feelings hurt when I disagreed...LOL

c

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

30/06/2010 9:38 PM

On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:03:52 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Just Wondering wrote:
>>> Could you just put an automotive scissors jack under the table?
>
>--------------------------------
>"Stuart" wrote:
>>
>> I been looking for a way to arrange that too but it needs a lift
>> travel of
>> around 2'6"
>--------------------------------
>Two approaches come to mind.
>
>1) A hydraulic jack and a series of interlocking shoring blocks that
>are about 4"-6" tall or whatever the jack stroke is.
>
>A little slow but it will get the job done.
>
>2) An automotive bumper jack (AKA: Suicide jack), the kind that hooked
>on the fender.
>Basically a screw jack that is maybe 30" long.
>
>#1 would be safer IMHO.
>
>Lew
>
A wimsheild wiper motor geared (chain drive) to the handcrank rack
and pinion originally installed.

jj

jo4hn

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 11:13 AM

jtpr wrote:
> I have an old Craftsman Drill Press ( http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=183
> ). It a great tool but has one problem, there is no crank to raise
> and lower the table, you lossen the clamp and slide it up and down the
> shaft. This is cumbersome at best. So, I wanted to see if anybody
> had any ideas on what I could rig up to raise and lower it
> mechanically. I have a few but I don't want to bias the thought
> process.
>
> The Craftsman model number is 103.23141.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
There was a guy here some years ago that built a contraption with 3
pulleys, some cable, and a bungee cord. I can't remember who it was or
where to find the photo that he supplied. Any way here's a description
(?): Anchor the cable to the table (in back of the post), run it up to
a pulley on the drill press bracket, then down to another pulley on the
base, up to another pulley on the motor bracket, then down to attach the
bungee cord which is attached to the base. Clear? :-)

I have a 103.23171 model and built one of these things. It does not
replace a crank but it helps.

If you have specific questions, email me by removing the mahalo.

mahalo,
jo4hn

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

23/06/2010 5:24 PM

Not mine

Phoney headers and text from the crybabies again.



"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

YOU fucking MORON.

Poor baby, not so comfortable with being frogged
you dribling pathetic excuse for a waste of fucking
good oxygen.
Do tell just how you are going to close an account
by complaint where the provider has only just booted
your sorry ass from the server.
And tell why.
Would not be for posting forgery of peoples posts
now would that be the case? LOL



____________________________________________________
"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<XzqUn.30840$%[email protected]>...
There will be so many sock puppets disappear here this group will tic like a
clock when that account gets closed too.

Crybaby.


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Obviously, the biggest problem here is your complete inability to
comprehend what top posting is or you're just looking to irritate
people. Either way, all you're really doing it developing a reputation
for trolling.


On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:04:02 -0400, "Josepi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>As the group knows (except the troll's twelve sock puppets profess) this
>was
>not my post.
>
>Somebody got his itsy bitsy feelings hurt when I disagreed...LOL

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to jtpr on 23/06/2010 6:58 AM

18/08/2010 6:04 AM


<[email protected]> wrote
>
> Put a boat winch on the top of the prill-press post and hook the cable
> to the table - or better yet put the winch at the bottom, and a pulley
> at the top.

Good idea! I may use that!

I didn't know you hung out on this group! Good to see you over here.
--
Jim in NC


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